beat list october 1995

England. She is a delightful woman. She has appeared in interviews in

Moody Street Irregulars and Beat Scene within the past year or so. Last

year, she did a small tour on the West Coast and stopped among other

places at the Monterey Bookstore and Cafe. And of course was prominent at

the 94 NYU bash. She is a talented artist and has made her contribution in

that field as well as in costuming and theater design.

Mark Hemenway

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From: "Stedman, Jim" <JSTEDMAN@NMU.EDU>

Subject: Re[2]: Gads I mIssed It!

In-Reply-To: In reply to your message of Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:02:38 EST

>Please give directions to this place in Marquette.

>MAK62

(there've been a number of requests for directions... I hope that folks

don't mind my posting this to the list...)

October In The Railroad Earth II

6:45 - 11:30 p.m., October 19, 1995

The Koffee Hause,

1125 N. Third Street

Marquette, MI

Arriving from Northern Wisconsin/Minnesota, take hwy 41/28 through Ishpe

ming and Negaunee and into Marquette. Head downtown, on Washington Stree

t, aimed right for Lake Superior. Turn left (going uphill) on Third Stre

et... it's the one with the post office on the corner. The Koffee Hause

is about 1/2 mile up Third, on the left.

Arriving from the lower Peninsula, take US 2, after crossing the Mackina

c Bridge, and turn north on Hwy 117 (at Engadine). This'll take you to h

wy 28, which you take west, through Munising. As you arrive in Marquette

follow the hwy until it becomes Front Street, turn left onto Washington

Street, and look for Third (see above)

Arriving from Southern Wisconsin/Chicago, take 41 north to Marinette/Men

ominee. Enjoy the lake route, and take Hwy 35 to Escanaba, where you joi

n Hwy 41, which'll lead you to Marquette.

Let me know if you can attend, and I'll watch for you...Let me know if y

ou want to read/perform, and I'll secure a time slot.

Hoo Hah!

Jim

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From: bs at AUC <i12bent@HUM.AUC.DK>

Subject: Moody Street Irregulars

On Fri, 13 Oct 1995 08:47:14 EDT,

mARK hEMENWAY <mhemenway@S1.DRC.COM> wrote:

>Carolyn Cassady is very much alive and well and, last I knew, living in

>England. She is a delightful woman. She has appeared in interviews in

>Moody Street Irregulars

Could somebody post a mailing/subscription address for MSI, please...?

Thanks in advance -

bs@AUC

Dept. of Languages and Intercultural Studies

Aalborg University, Denmark

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From: "Stedman, Jim" <JSTEDMAN@NMU.EDU>

Subject: Kerouac poem

When's The Last Time You Arm-Wrestled At The Shoreland Bar?

(to be read at opening of October In The Railroad Earth II,

10/19/95)

Not much distance between here and red brick Lowell.

When's the last time you arm-wrestled at The Shoreland Bar?

My kids wonder why this is done,

this night again this year.

"It's in honor of them things passed," I tell 'em.

"It's my chance to stand up on the curb and wave at the parade,"

I tell 'em.

So...

here's to John Clellon Holmes, gone in October

here's to Ray Kauffman, gone in October

here's to Edie Parker Kerouac, gone in October

here's to Roy Buchanan and Muddy Waters and Charles Bukowski and

Jim Morrison and Janis and Jimi and Pigpen and Steve Goodman and

Ray Carver and Neal Cassady and the Ghost of the bloody

Susquehannah.

Gone, gone, gone.

Here's to crazy sweatstink hard workin sea captain Michael Dexter

Stedman, a vanished man and disappeared brother.

Here's to the tumbled bones of Jesse James, and scavenged burial

spot of Khufu,

the silt and weeded remnants of the Edmund Fitzgerald,

and those memories that we forbid to let rest.

There's voices released as we do our diggin' ---

I was thinking, that if the formation of crystals are

effected by things like temperature and pressure and

sound, then there must exist all around you the sounds

of creation... somehow stored and trapped in the

crystalled crust of your planet. Ladies and Gentleman:

the voice of Paul Revere, on the conclusion of his ride,

"Whoah, horse!"

Now, heaven hosts a scene that's gotta be killer-diller.

The second known meeting of Ti-Jean,

Jean Louis Lebris de Kerouac,

and captain Jerry Garcia.

The first time they met was in New York,

and a bus full of Jerry and Neal

wheeled cross-continent to Ginsberg's apartment

where the wild-eyed newsaints draped an American flag

over the sad and whiskey shoulders of

Armchair Daddy-o.

Slow Jack stood and folded the flag,

triangle-like,

giving the occassion a proper military funeral...

and the cats played taps.

Pete Seeger says: Take it easy, but take it!

John Montgomery said: Watch your feet when your skull catches the

beat!

and I say "welcome, eh?"

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Subject: msi

MSI has ceased. Mailing address has been discontinued.

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From: Levi Asher <brooklyn@NETCOM.COM>

Subject: Re: Kerouac poem

In-Reply-To: <13OCT95.11116896.0085.MUSIC@NMU.EDU> from "Stedman,

Jim" at Oct 13, 95 10:17:36 am

Jim Stedman: nice poem!

> When's The Last Time You Arm-Wrestled At The Shoreland Bar?

> (to be read at opening of October In The Railroad Earth II,

> 10/19/95)

Tell us how it goes ...

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Levi Asher = brooklyn@netcom.com

Literary Kicks: http://www.charm.net/~brooklyn/LitKicks.html

(the beat literature web site)

Queensboro Ballads: http://www.levity.com/brooklyn/

(my fantasy folk-rock album)

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

"Should I pursue a path so twisted?

Or should I crawl, defeated and gifted?"

-- Patti Smith

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From: Laurie Syrek <HamOnRye5@AOL.COM>

Subject: Re: Generational Cycles

Kerouac was a French Canadian Catholic who objectified women and had strong

feelings for the conservative movement is the 60s. When it was convenient, he

was liberal. Otherwise, he could be a stodgy, close-minded man.

Laurie

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From: Jeffrey Weinberg <Waterrow@AOL.COM>

Subject: Re: msi

Moody Street Irregulars has ceased publication.

We have plenty of back issues for sale if anyone is interested in getting

them. $10 an issue. Contact us for issue number availability.

Betsy

Water Row Books

waterrow@aol.com

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From: "Ritter, Chris D" <rittec@UH2297P01.DAYTONOH.ATTGIS.COM>

Subject: Re: Generational Cycles

>Kerouac was a French Canadian Catholic who objectified women and had strong

>feelings for the conservative movement is the 60s. When it was convenient,

>was liberal. Otherwise, he could be a stodgy, close-minded man.

I had read before that he was somewhat conservative, not to mention there is

an aire of it in some of his writings.. though I wouldn't have thought he

was

so far.. well, as right as you made his out to be. Catholic's are thought to

conservative for the most part, but there's something about a French

Canadian

Catholic that just sounds evil.. dunno.. I'm rambling..

...Critter

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From: Trip Toner <ElTripo@AOL.COM>

Subject: cycles

May Iquote Burroughs.... in _JACK'S BOOK_

"he was an Eisenhower man and he believed in the old-fashioned virtues, in

America and that Europeans were decadent, and he was violenly opposed to

communism and any sort of leftist ideaologies"...

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Subject: The Short Hairs Are Taking Over

Section 1: The Short Hairs Are Taking Over

oThat esensual phosphorescence my youth delighted inE now lies

almost behind me like a land of dreams wherein an angel of hot sleep

dances like a diva in strange veils thru which desire looks and cries.o

- Lawrence Ferlinghetti, 26, _A Coney Island of the Mind_

Ive heard it announced over the loud-speaker at K-Mart that

Pretty soon the short hairs will all be taking over our inspiration

again.o Not since Kerouac drank his last whiskey have we felt the words

of a conservative fill this void we feed our poetry from, our artwork

from.. creativity will now shout in the voice of a short hair.

Walking along the side of the road down on 5th and Main, flipping

my quarter into the dusk which slowly filters in through the smog,

throwing a scarlet haze onto everything I hold true; I heard the beat of

an up-right bass, man in corduroy- dark corduroy, looking a little negro

as the night settled in. He turned around his cap and I saw- pushing its

way from underneath the rim- short hair, short dark hair, short dark

curly hair. I knew it wasnEt the end of anything.

A skateboard pounded down from a mid-air 360, baggy cut-offs, Rage

Against the Dying of the Light shirt hung dark on his back- he too, he

too sported a dyed head of short hair, short blue hair, short straight

blue hair.

I was there when it all came around. The heat was my enemy, I

sweated out each word from shaking hands.. shaking in fear I was, from

finger tip to psyche, scribbling on blank mocking pages: eThe short

hairs are taking over.. the short hairs are taking over.. the short

hairs are taking over.E It was a message I believe, a message from

something I couldnEt even begin to fathom. A message from something in a

golden throne, sporting short hair.

Then it occurred to me that maybe there was something vital in

this message. Something ancient inked dark on the body that was a tattoo

of non-conformity; something devilish in the hole that claimed those

noses, those ear-lobes, those eye brows, those tongues.. those rings

that moved in such a motion to hypnotize the cobra of modern. The cobra

of modern has reached its limit, it is now the aftermath of modern, life

is art, we as a nation of man have become art. We have become what is

known as postmodern, beyond modern, beyond reality.

Television station in the back of my head relays images of people

I have once loved, once destroyed, slept with or fucked with or fucked:

opinions separated for the conscientious objector. She was a small yet

beautiful child I saw, somewhere in her late teens- sixteen I believe-

and she was white as white as white can be, paper white and ever so

fragile. Her hair was black, an inviting black that moaned a sleeping

jazz. She smiled; from the tip of her hair swung threads, red threads,

blue threads, green, yellow, brown; on the tip swung bells singing to me

once again that she had transcended actuality, she was post to modern to

me.

Black woman, somewhat round, hair in braids a platinum blonde, sat

across from me at DennyEs and she was of this beast, this transcendental

modern beast. The table was filled with each creature a living art in

motion- poetry if you will, good poetry, happy poetry or sad poetry,

acid poetry, rust poetry, pot poetry, dope poetry, rap and blues, R&B

and melodic jazz.. make me a symphony of straight edge and queer, make

me a knight of the round table, I donEt want to sit with the squares.

I donEt want to sit with her and her melody, her Grateful Dead

tattoo and the dress she borrowed from a lover of mine and never

returned. That bitch is one step above a fag hag, sheEs a man hag. She

was something I considered to be past. I met her in harmony one evening

after a pint of Rocky Road and a six-ounce of Little Kings, Cindy Lauper

making waves on the radio, we two making noise in the back seat of my

Cutlass Sierra. The concrete cracked, the heavens squealed like metal on

metal, I knew I had touched two lips that were meant for a long hair. A

head of hair that catches dreams and never lets go. I dream catcher,

north, south, east, west, it all becomes a web that tangles me here in

my moment of glory: a two second orgasm that ends in regret.

Every eye around the table is another version of life to me, every

blink, every stare is dreaming of the stars: the farthest point they can

make it away from this night like they wish they did every night. One

man brushes up his chops, another talks about beating the under-aged

soccer-player with morals of a fag and holds his hands up to the Lord,

looking for salvation. Across from me a young poet that catches his

rhythm in every step he takes asks me for an opinion on clitoral

piercing, but unfortunately I havenEt had that pleasure. Neither have I

given nor received. What do I receive now that I too have become that

ever-dreaded short hair? What dreams have I caught and set free?

I have seen the world through an entirely raw set of jewels, I

have heard the city in ways never dreamt by the savages that carry their

weapons and demand their respect. Their is no blood on my hands, only

pumping through veins that call themselves immortal. I shall not die

before my voice is raised into the clouds where Wordsworth once

wandered. I shall wander to Indiana and find my friend Fensel for there

is a soul I truly admire. There is a man with a head on his shoulders, a

gut below his belt, wisdom in his throat, soul in the house that is his

heart. There is a man that is beyond the modern, there is a man that is

man.

But decidedly I am confused about the length of his hair. He is

catching those dreams as long hairs are bound to do so much better than

a short hair. Him, free from body ink and painful piercings; him, super

blue dog and roadhouse groupie; him, a cut of sliver floating in the

chalice filled with warm red wine- that is the order of the house, and

that is the visionary called poet called Fensel called man; long hair

extreme in a velvet pair of bell bottoms.

Where does this leave him: a dream catcher like most of the

others, unable to let them go, set them free as a dreaming dove of

splendor. If youEre gonna defeat the world, youEll need a clean set of

morals and dignity over-flowing like the seas. I have pride in that man

that lives up to those demands, but still I wonder with great admiration

what form of dreams he has caught in his hair.

As my mind wonders from Indiana to Ohio, and back around to Dayton

where we all came in to the 48th St. DennyEs to drink bad coffee,

licking the oil from our mouths as if this ritual of caffeine and

tobacco is something revisited from the ways of the American Indian. I

feel no red skin on the hand that is creating these words, I feel

nothing but a lack of pride in me: a German turned Redneck. I look to

find a sense of balance between the two but all I smell is alcohol. The

Germans were beer lords, and slaughters of the Jews. The Rednecks never

loved their niggers, and they never loved triumph over anything but

distillation and machinery. Is it pure what is made in America, or is it

simply American? American like myself. I only wish I knew.

This is nothing that I wish to claim as my own. This is another

form of technology, another version of a vision, a revision, a

maturation of the original draft that is my flesh. White I am, white and

male, and I ask the world: Who will represent me? Who will be what I

claim to love? Who will be the savior of this? I am a man free from

those chains of sexism and racism in my heart, but beyond all of

immortal veins, out to the white male exterior, I am forced back into

those shackles. I am forced behind a cigarette and a cup of coffee to

contemplate my existence.

The lines along the walls are jagged, the tiles are dusty, the fan

is making an eddy of the cigarette smoke, I flip an ash like a wild

loose comma into the sentence of an ash tray. More men pile into the

diner on Main, people are waiting: jive people calling me funky, telling

me donEt dis.. I donEt believe that I dis that often, I am white because

of that. There are red people, rednecks, briars, white trash of every

race. Is this my racism bleeding through my core? Classification is

racist, a long haired dreamer I once loved told me before he decided to

classify himself separated. So if you ainEt a black man, what the hell

are you? This is where we travel from Ohio, off the East coast and over

to Africa. I know of the jazz bars on the cape, I know of the women

their, the women and their blues. The women and my blues.

This is a land where we can define our heritage, or their

heritage: the heritage of African Americans, not quite African, not

quite American. Is this what anger can do, cause you to disassociate

yourselves from everything that is unlike you? Cause you to classify

yourself as separated and look for the benefits that is granted to

minorities?

I am a minority then. I am a minority that is American, truly

American.. nothing southern in these bones, nothing German in these

veins. I am not white, I am not black. I am not red, I am not brown. I

am simply a metaphor for inspiration. I am poetry, short haired poetry

hanging from lines on pages in newspapers or novels. I infest the

internet and the zines, the chapbooks and Norton collections. I am aging

slowly, using language and buying intelligence. I am at war, at odds and

ends with every single human that can not call themselves poetry.

We are a generation one step beyond metaphor, we are no longer a

representation of art, we are no longer the means to which art is

achieved. We are art. You there in your 60s stare, or the man in the

corner reading Ferlinghetti and Burroughs; you there in the motion of

American Dreaming, thinking Morrison is speaking to you as you copy the

lines to the movie of your mind down on coffeehouse napkins stained with

espresso. you there: you vampire, feeding on Gothic, looking to

supplement your diet with Poe. I know each and every one of you. I know

your days and your nights. IEve seen you in your butt-shorts at the

1470, IEve seen you in your dark shades with a crocheted goatee snapping

your fingers over at Front Street, IEve seen your trails of eye-liner

and base whipping through the metal detectors in the Asylum, IEve seen

you sweating with your Kurt Cobain memorial T-shirt under the sun and

straw at the Lollapalooza festival year after year after year. And I

believe I can say that I know you because I am you. I am of you.

Each human facet of this culture has been called a progression

from the Beats to the Hippies to the Punks and on to us. The problem

with this notion is that we are not able to be grouped together quite so

easily. Before me in the diner I see many people. Many people who at

once are easily tied together in a common culture. There are morays we

all hold true to in some sense. For instance, the peace and love culture

our parents paraded around half naked chanting is no longer valid to us.

We are more a culture of aggressive action. This is not to say that we

are violent- while much of our ways could easily be seen as violent- but

it is more an act of acting than an act of violence. There is anger

though in our hearts. We are angry that this machine of institution in

its many forms such as politics, religion, scholastics, capitalism, and

so on, is promoting what can simply be defined as stupidity. We are

angry that the dollar is the true Lord of the land and his father is

none other than Greed. These are the demons that have replaced the

heroes in our Bible, and we are angry that America still holds to the

lie that we are worshipping the Lord when in truth we are worshipping

ourselves.

Rimbaud attacked his motherland for ideals such as this, as did

many of the last centuries English poets such as Wordsworth, Shelly, and

others. Attacking the institution is not a new endeavor, our

predecessors have done this for countless centuries, as did those who

are believed to be the ancestors of our culture (Beats, Hippies, et al),

and it is sad to know that once these men obtain an office that would

allow them to change even the smallest portion of the problems they see,

they forget their youth and they forget they beliefs. It seems to me

that culture is something we mold in our youth and shatter in our age. I

only hope I am lucky enough to stay young forever, if not in flesh, then

in spirit.. this is why my veins consider themselves immortal.

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From: "Ritter, Chris D" <rittec@UH2297P01.DAYTONOH.ATTGIS.COM>

Subject: Re: Off The Road

>Moody Street Irregulars and Beat Scene within the past year or so.

I think someone already asked for one of these, but could someone

supply the list with both addresses or subscription information? I'd

really love to more about both of these..

...Critter

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From: Frank Stevenson <t22001@CC.NTNU.EDU.TW>

Subject: Re: Kerouac poem

In-Reply-To: <13OCT95.11116896.0085.MUSIC@NMU.EDU>

that's a nice poem reminding me of the common attack on beat

poetry in 50's by "academic poets"....which is of course also

(ironically) also one of the great UNIQUE FEATURES and VALUES

of this poetry, namely it's "open form," free spontaneous flow

that ginsburg jazz-bops into in "Howl" (where he later talks

about it in terms of Kerouac-inspired long saxophone riffs etc)

clearly (as g says) inspired by kerouac.....

BUT for me yes on one hand i love the free-flowing jazz impro-

vised line tho on the OTHER i'm maybe too "academic" not to think

it's maybe done better in "Howl" (because more contrived, less

actually spontaneous?) than this K poem and maybe better in

Rimbaud's Illuminations (for the same reason) than either...?....

Olson is supposed to be Mr. Open Form coming from Pound and

Williams' Paterson, I prefer Pound to O or W for (I think) the

same reason again (though think W's short poems are great, and

am fascinated by O's long rambling (mildly insane) "projectivist"

ie fully phenomenological in the

MOMENT OF NOW BEINg-CREATED

verse.....)......fws

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From: Frank Stevenson <t22001@CC.NTNU.EDU.TW>

Subject: Re: the theory flood continues (fwd)

Comments: cc: derrida@cfrvm.bitnet

wild cody

morse: di dad dit: gap forecloses

the Other, l'autre der Sprache, Langue, Tongue (pussy-slipped)

the split forecloses, (pre)supposes

mortgage, foreplay, assorted detritus

ballet tights, lyotards' balanced claims: "freud's dream-work

operates au contraire to rules of discourse"

and therefore in one sense "always already uncoded" in the

libidinal economy of fertilizer stores, the pure

(un)structured textualization of underpants:

"Oh great Redeemer! Who hast not Foreclosed

on my Soul's Mortgage!" who has not de-coded pre-coded or

unduly pre-cluded mah poor sickly

fin-de-siecle ego constructed out of discourses like so many

disentangled entaglements of plasticized, elasticized

suspender straps

to wit: late 20th c. semio-linguistico-linguini obsessions

perambulated intertwixt (and/or smOthering) ab-original

Sprache als Geist, language as all-permeating Divine Voice

(vox broccoli)

dih-dah, dih-dah-dit.....

fws

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From: Frank Stevenson <t22001@CC.NTNU.EDU.TW>

Subject: discussion of Rossetti's "Goblin Market"

Comments: cc: derrida@cfrvm.cc.ntnu.edu.tw

"honey out of sweetest carcass" = "meaning" (oder "meinong")

spewn headlong out of decaying (radioactive half-alive) signifier-

signified GAP that is (quintessentially) langue, LANGUAGE

(vide derrida's deconstruction of heidegger's Being/auld lang Sein

as "divine voice" a la "Anaximander Fragment" in "Differance")

viewed this way we may place the Biblical/Divine/Spiritual

ideas/

feelings/mere (mesozoic) intentions in their proper CONTEXT:

the (late 20th c. obsessional) free autoerotic play of (all too

human) WRITING which has gone ("literally") out of its mind......

fws

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Subject: can u spot the "parodic insertion" into text?

Comments: cc: derrida@cfrvm.cc.ntnu.edu.tw

in a nutshell, as i see it:

rousseau, saussure et al: writing expresses (transcribes)

speech, speech expresses a (we somehow imagine as transcendent)

"meaning" BUT this whole logocentric transcenence of "meaning"

to language bag is somehow deluded so let's get back ("GET BAAAACK

.....to where you wanna be.....") to the "bottom line" or rather

the all-pervasive ground (which is really un-ground, abgrund,

abyss), "writing" (which never pretended to have meaning present-

to-itself but rather always embodies absence, trace, etc etc etc)

but also true jd is talking about "arche-writing" (as is clear in

1st interview in "Positions") that "underlies" both (actual or

"physical") speech AND writing......

but this whole (saussurian, saurian) scheme of things presupposes

ALPHABETIC LANGUAGES....pretty Eurocentric, no? which is why this

all became clearest to me in "The China Question" in "Gramma-

tology" where the sense of the gramme or arche-writing is related

both to "algebra" (math/logic is "outside" logocentric "speech,"

right? but still a language in sense of "writing"?) and to Shang

Dynasty (before 1000 BC) Chinese oracle-bone divination, in which

the "divine voice" appears randomly/arbitrarily as CRACKS

("writing") on burned turtle shells....(mere external memory as

repetition as against Platonic recollection, PLUS--see all you get?!--

the notion of "fate" (and/or divine necessity or Meaning) as free-play

and randomness....(vide Mallarme, Nietzsche, Deleuze on "a throw

of dice," etc etc etc)....

ie (another way to look at it): eurocentric thinking is "cracked"....

fws

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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 09:19:19 -0400

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From: Kurt Voelker <KVoelk@AOL.COM>

Subject: Re: cycles

I think Eltripo has hit the nail on the head. Kerouac certainly defied

convention in action but hung violently to conservative beliefs when it came

to his thinking. There is a good Kerouac interview in the CD collection _The

Beat Generation_ in which he spells out this seemingly paradoxical stance.

Kvoelk

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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 13:20:52 -0500

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From: Mat Awad <mawad01@MAIL.ORION.ORG>

Subject: Re: cycles

In-Reply-To: <951013224349_44180114@mail04.mail.aol.com>

I think JK was the type who appreciated the idealism and possible

fruits associated with communism. But, at the same time I know he

encountered the backlash that perhaps all idealogies fall prey to--human

nature. To follow/believe in an ideal is one thing, to practice it

within the framework of human existence is quite another.

WAD

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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 20:49:17 -0400

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From: Viola Weinberg <Vcweinberg@AOL.COM>

Subject: Upcoming Kerouac Reading

October in the Railroad Earth

On Sunday, October 29, 1995, 7:30 p.m. the annual Kerouac reading will take

place at Melarkey's Bar and Grill/1517 Broadway/Sacramento, CA.

There Will Be Eight Beats to the Bar--

* D.R. Wagner

* Viola Weinberg

* B.L. Kennedy

* Robin Rule

* Andy Clausen

* Daniel Essman

* Crawdad Nelson

& of course, Jack Kerouac (in spirit)

Music by:

* Steve Vanoni

* Tom Fay

* Big Z

* & others

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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 19:36:09 +1000

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From: "Rudy De Waele by way of reeves@odyssey.com.au john reeves"

<isdm@INNET.BE>

Subject: http://www.innet.net/brussels-arts/ISDM.html

Comments: To: Bonnie Howard <HOWARDB@SONOMA.EDU>

jo guys,

the 1st page of isdm 2.0 is launched.

i've tested it out with NS 2.0 but had problems with the gif-transparancy.

can you check this out and tell me how it looks?

meanwhile, i'm going on fixing those terrible new NS 2.0 extensions...

sys,

rudy.

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Rue Roosendaelstraat 146

1190 BRUSSELS

CONTACT:Rudy De Waele

Tel/Fax:00 32 (0)2/346 65 01

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http://www.innet.net/brussels-arts/ISDM.html

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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 15:35:26 -0400

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From: "W. Luther Jett" <MagenDror@AOL.COM>

Subject: Re: http://www.innet.net/brussels-arts/ISDM.html

I don't know about NetScape 2.0, but using Amerika-On-Line's so-called

Browser (actually, it's not such a bad Browser), I am unable to scroll down

the entire page once it's loaded. What I could see looked very nice, however!

(-:

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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 08:50:40 EST

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From: CLAY VAUGHAN <CLV100U@MOZART.FPA.ODU.EDU>

Subject: Re: Generational Cycles

Kerouac's more obvious political leanings have a much more complex

background than is answered simply by his being Catholic. That well-

rooted (or root-rotted) Western Catholic background fell into

profound conflict with his Eastern beliefs, and I think this tortured

him--tore him, in fact, in two.

Even a lot of what he wrote in ESCAPADE, or blathered over the

airwaves late in his life was not so much the man espousing his true

and heartfelt beliefs (though it wasn't purely a ruse, either), but

(and I don't know if I can say it without resorting to the platitude,

true though it remains) it was the man playing a character, part

real, part invention borne of distrust for everything outside that

for years since ON THE ROAD was published had tried to bully its way

into some crazy interpretation of what he was about. And knowing it

all an illusion anyway (something I think he did hold to, knowingly,

despite any apparent Catholic/Buddhist contradiction or hero worship

of Wm Buckley or anyone else), the role he acted out before a public

that he knew was not real, was that of playing the ZEN LUNATIC.

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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 10:17:14 EDT

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From: Bill Gargan <WXGBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Subject: Re: Generational Cycles

In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 13 Oct 1995 17:04:22 -0400 from

<HamOnRye5@AOL.COM>

On Fri, 13 Oct 1995 17:04:22 -0400 Laurie Syrek said:

>Kerouac was a French Canadian Catholic who objectified women and had strong

>feelings for the conservative movement is the 60s. When it was convenient, he

>was liberal. Otherwise, he could be a stodgy, close-minded man.

>Laurie

Kerouac may not have held enlightened, modern attitudes towards women

but I think it's wrong to say that he was closed minded. It seems to me

that he was incredibly open-minded, open-minded enough, for instance, to

embrace either conservative or liberal ideas when he thought they were

right; open-minded enough to accomodate his Catholicism to Buddhism;

open-minded enough not to condemn beliefs or lifestyles that he did not

necessarily hold valid. I like to think that Kerouac posessed the

quality that F. Scott Fitzgerald defined as genius:--the ability to hold

two contridictory thoughts in the mind at the same time without being

paralyzed by them.

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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 08:57:47 -0700

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From: "Timothy K. Gallaher" <gallaher@HSC.USC.EDU>

Subject: Re: Generational Cycles

>Kerouac's more obvious political leanings have a much more complex

>background than is answered simply by his being Catholic. That well-

>rooted (or root-rotted) Western Catholic background fell into

>profound conflict with his Eastern beliefs, and I think this tortured

>him--tore him, in fact, in two.

I don't think Kerouac saw any conflict between Catholicism and Buddhism.

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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 12:21:43 -0400

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From: Phil McCray <pam3@POSTOFFICE2.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU>

Subject: Re: Generational Cycles

>When it was convenient, he

>was liberal. Otherwise, he could be a stodgy, close-minded man.

As Clay Vaughan rightly puts it:

>>it was the man playing a character, part

real, part invention borne of distrust for everything outside that

for years since ON THE ROAD was published had tried to bully its way

into some crazy interpretation of what he was about.

Or, if I may, it points out that Kerouac didn't live

inside rigid attributions and characterizations,

but within his half-dreamy fluctuations of spirited

sensitivity, seasoned with alcohol and depression.

It's our fortune that he shared it all with us.

Phil McCray

Cornell University Archives

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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 12:33:50 EST

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From: CLAY VAUGHAN <CLV100U@MOZART.FPA.ODU.EDU>

Subject: Re: Generational Cycles

Without belaboring the point, the kind of conflict I believe Kerouac

might've experienced would be akin to those attachments that

Catholicism espouses in doctrine and dogma (all of this, by the way,

embodied physically AND spiritually in the figure of Memere, something

all its own that was daunting to him, no doubt, beyond description),

and the relative freedom one finds in the empty canvas of unfettered

experience, direction unrelated to paths set up a priori, which

might accurately characterize the Eastern mind.

Don't get me wrong, the man had marvelous ability to balance, however

precariously, two opposing thoughts simultaneously and without

apparent confusion. I use the word APPARENT because, really, we'll

never know what went on in that man's so complicated head.

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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 19:21:22 -0400

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From: Penguin Electronic <ELECTRONIC@PENGUIN.COM>

Subject: kerouac ROMinbus -Reply

Comments: To: ccook@tiac.net

The Jack Kerouac ROMnibus ships to book and computer stores next week on October

23, 1995.

I promised I would supply more information at the time of release, so here is

the press release:

(Warning: long posting...)

A Jack Kerouac ROMnibus

A CD-ROM for Macintosh and Windows Computers

*The only way to organize what you are going to say about anything is to

organize it on a grand and emotional scale based on the way you*ve felt about

life all along.* *Jack Kerouac

Jack Kerouac is one of the most widely read and influential writers in the

twentieth-century American canon, and his novels have galvanized several

generations of artists and young Americans. Between 1950 and 1968 Kerouac*s

prolific writing filled 14 novels, several collections of poetry, and numerous

essays and articles. Kerouac*s work is currently enjoying a widespread

comeback in popular culture, with tremendous appeal to members of Generation X.

Now, Viking thrusts Jack Kerouac into the forefront of the digital age with A

JACK KEROUAC ROMnibus CD-ROM (Penguin Electronic; October 16, 1995; Dual

format; $49.95). This interactive project, co-published by Mind in Motion and

Penguin Books USA, breaks new ground in literary multimedia. Collaborating

with the Kerouac estate, writer Ralph Lombreglia and documentary filmmaker Kate

Bernhardt have produced and directed a comprehensive work no Kerouac student or

fan should be without. From Jack Kerouac*s

performance on the *Steve Allen Show* to the extensive research functions

available for exploring Kerouac*s texts, and with close to two hours of

exclusive high-resolution video and audio footage of Kerouac and other Beat

generation writers, A JACK KEROUAC ROMnibus explores the life and writing of a

cultural icon in a previously unimaginable manner.

A JACK KEROUAC ROMnibus contains:

* THE DHARMA BUMS

The complete text of The Dharma Bums forms the heart of the program. Each page

of the novel is filled with textual, audio, and video annotations. Clicking on

a highlighted word produces pop-up annotations on everything from hopping a

freight to San Luis Obispo to Charlie Parker. For example, click on the words

*San Luis Obispo* and a map and description pops-up. Click on *Charlie Parker*

and a musical recording of Charlie Parker plays alongside text explaining his

influence on Kerouac and his writing.

* THE KEROUAC SAMPLER

Containing twenty-eight performances of selections from Kerouac works, including

Mexico City Blues, Visions of Cody, The San Francisco Blues, and The

Subterraneans, this selection includes recordings of Kerouac, Beat biographer

Ann Charters, Michael McClure, and David Amram and Graham Parker*some made

especially for this production.

* JACK AND THE SAN FRANCISCO BEATS

A Beat family tree maps out the romances, mentor relationships, breakups, and

cohabitation among key Beat figures. It also includes pictures and biographies

for each person.

* LIFE AND TIMES

A timeline illustrates a year-by-year breakdown of events in Jack Kerouac*s

life, featuring expandable graphics and simultaneous world events and literary

landmarks.

* THE GALLERY

This section features a dozen original, never-before-published drawings and

paintings by Kerouac himself. The Kerouac slide show gives a guided tour of

his artwork, snapshots from the family photo album, and photographs of and by

other Beats.

* THE ARCHIVE

Never-before-released memorabilia from the Kerouac estate includes facsimiles

and transcripts from Kerouac*s journals, correspondence, and personal

artifacts.

*EXTRAS

Jack Kerouac*s *backpack* contains all of the audio and video clips found in the

CD-ROM, an essay on the Beat Generation by Ann Charters, credits, sources, and

ROMnibus, serves as background for each section.

In addition to the main Kerouac menu, special interactive features have been

added to help the user research, obtain, and save information:

The Picture Cursor enlarges most pictures into full-screen graphics that can be

moved around the screen for easy viewing.

Bookmarks allow the user to select certain passages from The Dharma Bums for

study and mark passages to return to later.

The Index allows the user to browse the novel*s annotations alphabetically, by

chapter, or by three sub-topics, Buddhism, Jack Kerouac, or People.

The Search Engine instantly locates words or phrases throughout the text of The

Dharma Bums.

With its easy-to-use format, A JACK KEROUAC ROMnibus will take you on an

unmediated, multimedia adventure into the world of Jack Kerouac and the culture

he epitomized. From the first train you hop with Ray Smith, to the last

mountain you climb with Japhy Ryder, you will never experience Jack Kerouac and

the Beats quite the same way.

A JACK KEROUAC ROMnibus is the second addition to an expanding series of quality

literary multimedia titles from Penguin Electronic that includes The Crucible

CD-ROM and the forthcoming Of Mice and Men CD-ROM (November).

# # #

A JACK KEROUAC ROMnibus

Published by Penguin Electronic

Dual Format: MPC & MAC

Suggested Retail Price: $49.95

ISBN: 1-57395-002-5

UPC: 0-51855-00002-8

Technical requirements:

Windows

> 486 or Pentium processor

> Double-speed or faster CD-ROM drive

> Windows 3.1 or later (including Windows 95)

> 256-color SVGA monitor

> 8 MB RAM

> 2 MB hard disk space available

> Speakers and headphones

> 8- or 16-bit Sound Blaster or compatible sound card

Macintosh

> LC III series or better

> Double-speed or faster CD-ROM drive

> System 7.0 or higher

> Color monitor

> 8 MB RAM

> 2 MB hard disk space available

For information on Penguin Electronic CD-ROMs, send E-mail to

electronic@penguin.com or visit the Internet site: http://www.penguin.com.

About the Producers

A JACK KEROUAC ROMnibus was developed with Penguin Electronic by Mind in Motion,

a North Carolina-based producer of multimedia products, including general

interest titles in the areas of literature, art, science and history.

The project was spearheaded by the Boston-based husband-and-wife team of Ralph

Lombreglia, author of two short story collections, Men Under Water and Make Me

Work, and Kate Bernhardt, a documentary television and multimedia producer

whose credits include programs for the PBS series *Nova,* *Odyssey,* and *The

Brain.* This is their first joint project.

>>>>>>>>>>

I suggest posting release dates for items such as these. I went to a couple of

bookstores in Harvard Sq. in Cambridge, MA and they were not familiar with

this title. I am not sure if it is not out yet or if they aren't planning to

get it, the staff at the 2 stores I went to were somewhat "in the dark". Has

the Kerouac CD-ROM been released?

Thanks,

Chuck C

<<<<<<<<<<

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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 22:46:38 -0400

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From: Tanya Hicks also looking for availible copies of

<Dharma1020@AOL.COM>

Subject: Re: cycles

excerpt from interview with Ben Hecht(the Beat Generation CD Vol.3)

Hecht: Do you like politics?

JK: No

Hecht: Do you like the Republican party?

JK: I like Eisenhower, as a man, he's a great man, a nice man

Hecht: Why do you think he's a nice man?

JK: He's the kind of man, you know, you'd like to shake hands with.

He's a nice man. You know he's a nice man. I don't really think about

politics( I think this is what he says, its somewhat mumbled)

Hecht: I adore Mr. Eisenhower but I don't think he's a great man or even an

intelligent man.

JK: He probably is, you know the American people probably don't realize what

he's doing.

Hecht: What's he doing?

JK: I don't know, we'll figure it out in 50 years. In 50 years you can look

back.

Hecht: I think he's one of the leaders of the Beat Generation. (JK laughs)

I think he's turned his back on us, just as you boys have.

JK: No, no

Hecht: Are you going to vote the next election?

JK: I've never voted. I shouldn't be proud of never having voted. But i never

have i don't know what's the matter....

and the interview goes on more about politics, etc.........

It's a great Box Set, worthy of purchase...........................

if for nothing but Ginsberg's reading of "America"

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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 09:41:08 EST

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From: "Stedman, Jim" <JSTEDMAN@NMU.EDU>

Subject: Re[2]: cycles

In-Reply-To: In reply to your message of Mon, 16 Oct 1995 21:46:38 EST

In the _Kerouac_ movie, Burroughs stated that he always felt that Jack

was apolitical.

QUIT

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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 18:36:53 -0400

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From: "Karen L. Becker" <DustyJ437@AOL.COM>

Subject: Kerouac: rolling in Grave?

Has anyone seen the new Volvo commercical with someone (who is that?) reading

from _On The Road_?

Really, what has this to do with Volvo? If there is one car made in that

last 20 years that I cannont picture J.K. driving, it would most decidedly be

a VOLVO! They're nice and safe, expensive, and totally without soul.

Tehy're YUPPIE cars, in the words of a local used car dealer.

Whose idea was this? Am I the only one who cringes everytime s/he sees this?

DustyJade

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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 16:21:00 -0700

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From: Bonnie Howard <HOWARDB@SONOMA.EDU>

Subject: Re: Kerouac: rolling in Grave?

"Karen L. Becker" <DustyJ437@AOL.COM> wrote:

=Has anyone seen the new Volvo commercical with someone (who is that?) reading

=from _On The Road_?

Egads! And yet...and yet...the pure irony of it forces me to crack a grin.

--Bonnie

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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 19:24:19 -0400

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From: "J. Darren Bishop" <URJTVAB@IUP.BITNET>

Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania

Subject: Re: Kerouac: rolling in Grave?

I don't know...I think that Volvos are a very revolutionary kind of car...right

up Jack's alley

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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 19:31:17 EDT

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From: Bill Gargan <WXGBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Subject: car commercials

The least they could have done was use a Chevy. "See the U.S.A. in your Chevro

let...."

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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 16:54:47 -0700

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From: Eric Simpkins <SIMPKINS@SONOMA.EDU>

Subject: Re: car commercials

Hate to get off the subject of the Beats, but I will get back on the subject

later. The "they" work for volvo, so why on earth would they use a chevrolet?

Anyway, I am new to this, and have so far just been reading, so I was wondering

if anyone ever heard AG's "Holy Soul Jelly Roll?" I have the collection, and I

think it is wonderful. I have only been into the Beats for about a year, and AG

is definitely my favorite beat poet. But I was wondering if he, or any other

beat has other CD's out. I love to read their poetry written down, but

something special is added by hearing the poet read it aloud. Also, I was

wondering if AG would be reading anytime soon in the SF Bay Area. Thanks for

any help you could give.

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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:04:24 -0400

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From: "J. Darren Bishop" <URJTVAB@IUP.BITNET>

Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania

Subject: Re: kerouac ROMinbus -Reply

Has anyone ever heard Jack's box set (I'm not really even sure what it is

called)? I saw it once at a bookstore, but didn't have the money to buy it at

the time (or probably now for that matter); nevertheless, I am curious to hear

anything about it.

Also, not to get off the subject of the Beats too far, but does anyone know

about any Camus discussion groups? Just curious.

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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 17:31:20 -0700

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