Hill in the Bronx) but I am going blind trying to find it again there in

the midst of so many millions of wonderful existential lines.

 

Lamont C.

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Date:         Sat, 17 Feb 1996 15:19:05 -0700

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Paul Clement Czaja <czaja@K12.SSDS.COM>

Subject:      DISREGARD TEST

 

This is a test only; no need to respond.

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Date:         Sun, 18 Feb 1996 09:58:02 -0500

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Tony Trigilio <atrigili@LYNX.DAC.NEU.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Allen Ginsberg---post beatific

Comments: cc: cjpearmo@mhc.mtholyoke.edu

In-Reply-To:  <Pine.OSF.3.91.960215123649.21502B-100000@axis.mtholyoke.edu>

              from "Chanda J Pearmon" at Feb 15, 96 12:38:17 pm

 

Chanda J. Pearmon writes:

> On Tue, 13 Feb 1996, Tony Trigilio wrote:

>> *Journals, Mid-Fifties:  1954-1958*.  I saw him read from the book here

>> in Boston, and by my observation he was gracious and energetic. Hope

>

> wow, can you expand any on the reading?  Journals, mid-fifties... is what

> first got me into the beat culture

 

I guess one of the things I liked most about the reading was how

Ginsberg carefully maneuvered it away from a worshipful gathering and

toward an evening focused also on the poetic and historical material in

the journals.  When I say "worshipful gathering," I think right now of

Peter McGahey's recent cautions on the list about the dangers of

biographical over-emphasis.  Don't get me wrong, the reading was

sprinkled with great anecdotes, and Ginsberg's asides between readings

of excerpts from the journal were excellent; the details of his

biography are rich and instructive--especially more so now, as the 90s

begin to look more like the 50s than the 80s ever did (what did

Eisenhower say?  "Things are more like they are now than they ever were

before").

 

But with the sheer biographical heft of the journals, the reading had the

potential to lapse into just a bull session--preaching anecdotes only to

the converted.  The reading offered both:  Ginsberg read from journal

entries that described source material from the period, all of which

were useful in contextualizing his early work; he read from dream

transcriptions that were hilarious, and that helped illuminate his

composition process; and he read from poem drafts and unpublished works

in the journals, drafts that he revised from the printed text as he

read.

 

The reading of the drafts and unpublished works helped bring to life his

past remarks on using the speech-thought unit to create stanzas within

line- units; his effort to base poetic form more on ear, voice, and

breath than on line.  I'm sure one could get this effect from any

reading he performs, yet I didn't expect a reading from journals to go

quite this way.  In all, the reading was politically charged,

instructive, and hilarious.  I wish more of us would emphasize

Ginsberg's sense of humor/camp, because more often than not he's using

humor/camp for serious social ends (first thing that comes to mind right

now is "Kral Majales" and the photos of the 1965 Czech May Day parade).

 

Afterwards, he took questions from the standing-room crowd.  Some of the

questions were insightful, and others seemed like questions he must have

heard hundreds of times over the years.  He treated almost all questions

carefully and graciously, as if each constituted the first time he had

been asked.

 

You said these journals first got you into the beats.  Is there one

aspect of the journals you liked best/liked least?  Any one anecdote,

dream transcription, or poem that moved you above all else in the book?

 

Best,

Tony

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Date:         Sun, 18 Feb 1996 14:33:05 -0500

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Paul McDonald - Bon Air Branch <PAUL@LOUISVILLE.LIB.KY.US>

Subject:      Re; beats exhibit

 

Who is in charge of the exhibit and how can I find out a schedule?

 

Paul

 

Paul@louisville.lib.ky.us

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Date:         Mon, 19 Feb 1996 13:28:07 +1000

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Duncan Gray <duncang@ENTO.CSIRO.AU>

Subject:      Re: jk recordings

 

>Tell us more about the hip-hop/jazzed backed kerouac you mention above.  Is

>iyt new?

 

There's a band called United Future Organisation which had a track of K

talking over hip hop/jazz backing.  From what I can remember the spoken word

piece is in the Kerouac CD box.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Duncan Gray

Stored Grain Research Laboratory

CSIRO Division of Entomology, GPO Box 1700, Canberra ACT 2601

Ph. (06) 246 4178  Fax (06) 246 4202

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Date:         Mon, 19 Feb 1996 13:49:41 EST

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Bill Gargan <WXGBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Subject:      Re: beats exhibit

In-Reply-To:  Message of Sat, 17 Feb 1996 01:43:23 -0500 from

              <BoomShenka@AOL.COM>

 

On Sat, 17 Feb 1996 01:43:23 -0500 Meredith Blackmann said:

>just a note:  there's a beat exhibit going on at the whitney museum in NYC.

> i don't know the exact dates it's running.  it's also traveling around the

>country.

 

Sorry Beat exhibit closed earlier this month at Whitney.  It's on the road.  Th

ose in DC area may also want to catch the Rebels and Poets show which, despite

some censorship, I hear is a good show.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Feb 1996 11:11:59 -0800

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         "Timothy K. Gallaher" <gallaher@HSC.USC.EDU>

Subject:      Re: jk recordings

 

>>Tell us more about the hip-hop/jazzed backed kerouac you mention above.  Is

>>iyt new?

>

>There's a band called United Future Organisation which had a track of K

>talking over hip hop/jazz backing.  From what I can remember the spoken word

>piece is in the Kerouac CD box.

>----------------------------------------------------------------------

>Duncan Gray

>Stored Grain Research Laboratory

>CSIRO Division of Entomology, GPO Box 1700, Canberra ACT 2601

>Ph. (06) 246 4178  Fax (06) 246 4202

>----------------------------------------------------------------------

 

 

Thanks for the Info.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:59:04 -0500

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From:         "Gary M. Gillman" <garyg@INFORAMP.NET>

Subject:      Kerouac`s sound

 

Recently listened again to the three CD, repackaged set of K`s recordings,

released by Rhino a few years ago. I highly recommend these recordings,

which enhance so much the experience of reading Kerouac because his resonant

voice, adroit breath pauses, panoply of accents and consonontal dexterity

(even when seemingly blitzed!) really bring to life the meaning of some of

the more obscure parts of his work. In particular, the recordings reveal the

full range of his dark humour, and compassion. I understand Steve Ronan did

a lot of the work to put this package together, and, along with the other

planners of this project, deserves the undying thanks of all Kerouac

enthusiasts. As an index of what to expect(for those who don`t know the

recordings), consider that the liner notes indicate that Michael McClure

reports that, even though he knew the recordings (from when they first came

out), after listening to them on these (pristine-sounding) CD`s in question

while driving his car, he became so overwhelmed by emotion listening to his

old friend in his prime that he had to pull over to the side of the road...

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Date:         Mon, 19 Feb 1996 18:55:20 -0500

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Bill Kiriazis <kir@HAMPTONS.COM>

Subject:      jk recordings

 

There seems to be some interest in this hip-hop recording.  I would also

recommend a 1993 CD of William Burroughs reading his work to music.  It is

called "Spare Ass Annie and other Tales" and includes 15 selections.  Most

of the music is by The Disposable Heroes Of Hiphoprisy and includes some

jazz, reggae, hip-hop, etc.  It is put out by Island Red Label of Island

Records.

 

Bill Kiriazis

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Date:         Mon, 19 Feb 1996 16:31:54 -0800

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Michael Bertsch <mbertsch@ECST.CSUCHICO.EDU>

Subject:      Re: beats exhibit

In-Reply-To:  <BEAT-L%96021913514708@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

 

Greetings, All-

 

I have been getting bounce messgages after having sent to the BEAT-L

address.  Can anyone shed any light on this?

 

Michael Bertsch

VP Academic Affairs

VOU, Inc.

Athena University

http://www.athena.edu

 

On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Bill Gargan wrote:

 

> On Sat, 17 Feb 1996 01:43:23 -0500 Meredith Blackmann said:

> >just a note:  there's a beat exhibit going on at the whitney museum in NYC.

> > i don't know the exact dates it's running.  it's also traveling around the

> >country.

>

> Sorry Beat exhibit closed earlier this month at Whitney.  It's on the road.  T

   h

> ose in DC area may also want to catch the Rebels and Poets show which, despite

> some censorship, I hear is a good show.

>

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Date:         Mon, 19 Feb 1996 23:00:48 -0500

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Nicholas Herren <NPH002@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU>

Subject:      Kerouac's Injury

 

"Two weeks before his nineteenth birthday in March 1941, after he had

recuperated FROM A BROKEN LEG THE PREVIOUS FALL WHEN HE WAS TACKLED DURING

HIS SECOND FRESHAMN FOOTBALL GAME AT COLUMBIA, Kerouac began to write a

series of postcards to SEbastian Sampas at Emerson College in Boston.  Of

all his Lowell friends, Jack felt a special affinity with Sebastian, remembering

 in Vanity of Dulouz that Sebastian 'was a great kid, knightlike, i.e.,

noble, a poet, goodlooking, crazy, sweet, sad, everything a man should

want as a friend.'"

                        Ann Charters _Jack Kerouac:  Selected Letters_

 

Also to mention are the fact that this Injury no doubt had everything to

do with his career as a writer. During this period is when he began to

read all the books he would need and as well to begin writing (altho he

always liked to write).  THIS INJURY DID NOT END HIS CAREER HOWEVER, as he

himself explains very clearly in Vanity of Dulouz it was just a crazy

dream he had that did it (he was on the team--not playing when he did it!)

 

Lastly it is good to mention that Sebastian Sampas no doubt had a big part

to do with his life, infact the whole family did!! (Wifey, estate, etc.)

 

I would suggest everyone who has read a lot of Jack's books and want more

to read this book.  It is like a real life book about him writen by himself.

It is composed of hundreds of letters to Allen Ginsberg, Neal Cassidy,

Carl Solomon, Editors, Memere, John Clellon Holmes, William Burroughs,

and on and on and on.  BUY IT, READ IT.  I SOLD CD'S TO GET IT!!

 

NpH

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Date:         Tue, 20 Feb 1996 11:36:39 +0000

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         apm5%aberystwyth.ac.uk@UKACRL.BITNET

Subject:      Re: jk recordings

 

>There seems to be some interest in this hip-hop recording.  I would also

>recommend a 1993 CD of William Burroughs reading his work to music.  It is

>called "Spare Ass Annie and other Tales" and includes 15 selections.  Most

>of the music is by The Disposable Heroes Of Hiphoprisy and includes some

>jazz, reggae, hip-hop, etc.  It is put out by Island Red Label of Island

>Records.

>

>Bill Kiriazis

 

 

I'd echo that 100% - it's a great CD. Hell, I liked it so much I recently

recited "Words of advice for young people" at a poetry reading. Went down OK

I think...

 

Alan

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Date:         Tue, 20 Feb 1996 14:54:42 -0500

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Chanda J Pearmon <cjpearmo@MHC.MTHOLYOKE.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Kerouac's Injury

In-Reply-To:  <01I1EXM7LPT2003KOV@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU>

 

On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Nicholas Herren wrote:

>                         Ann Charters _Jack Kerouac:  Selected Letters_

> It is composed of hundreds of letters to Allen Ginsberg, Neal Cassidy,

> Carl Solomon, Editors, Memere, John Clellon Holmes, William Burroughs,

> and on and on and on.  BUY IT, READ IT.  I SOLD CD'S TO GET IT!!

 

Or just go check it out at the library like I did.  Nicholas is right

though.  These letters provide a wealth of information, and insight into

how Kerouac saw himself, and his writing.  I have some selected quotes

from the letters on my web page...under quotes..then kerouac..

 

 

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Date:         Tue, 20 Feb 1996 16:54:35 -0800

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         "Timothy K. Gallaher" <gallaher@HSC.USC.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Kerouac's Injury

 

Thanks for bringing up the subject of the recently published book of

Kerouac's letters.

 

I wanted to say, and this gives me the perfect lead in, that last night I

saw the book in paperback.

 

So now it is available in paperback.  Cost $15.95.

 

I was unstingy enough and unpatient enough to buy the hardbound, but for

those of you who waited it is available now in paperback.

 

There you go.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:18:18 -0800

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Michael Bertsch <mbertsch@ECST.CSUCHICO.EDU>

Subject:      test

 

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Date:         Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:12:06 EST

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         mARK hEMENWAY <mhemenway@S1.DRC.COM>

Subject:      Kerouac's Birthday

Comments: To: brooklyn@netcom.com, schorr@world.com, event@globe.com,

          noweek@globe.com, living@globe.com, klmcomm@aol.com,

          heraledit@delphi.com, 71632.63@compuserve.com, mnews@world.std.com,

          general@the-tec.mit.edu, radio@csps.com, news@baywindows.com,

          wbcn104fm@aol.com, wbrs@binah.cc.brandeis.com

 

LOWELL CELEBRATES JACK KEROUAC'S BIRTHDAY

 

LOWELL, MA.   Lowell Celebrates Kerouac! will celebrate the birthday of

American author Jack Kerouac with events in Lowell, MA and Nashua, NH on

March 9 and 10, 1996..

 

<<Saturday, 9 March 1996>>

4:00 PM Commemorative Reading at Kerouac Park (Corner of Bridge and French

Streets, Lowell, MA) Bring your favorite passage and join in.

 

6:00 PM "Poems of the Night" a guided tour of Kerouac sites along the

Merrimack River. Tour begins at the Pawtuckeville MacDonald's Restaurant,

corner of Mammoth Road and VFW Highway. Bring your copy of Dr. Sax.

 

>>Sunday, 10 March 1996>>

2:00-4:00 PM    "The Nashua Connection" Steve Edington reads from his work

in progress on Kerouac's literary and biographical association with

Nashua, NH. Barnes and Noble Bookstore, Daniel Webster Highway, Nashua,

NH.

 

Press Release Attached.

 

For more information call 508-458-1721, or email mhemenway@igc.apc.org.

 

Thanks,

 

Mark Hemenway

Lowell Celebrates Kerouac!, Inc.Lowell Celebrates Kerouac!

P.O. Box 1111, Lowell, MA 01853

 

 

 

PRESS RELEASE

 

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE           PRESS CONTACT:  Mark Hemenway                                                                   (508)475-9090 or

                                                                        (508)458-1721

 

                                                PUBLIC INQUIRIES: (508)458-1721

 

LOWELL EVENTS TO CELEBRATE JACK KEROUAC BIRTHDAY

 

        LOWELL, MA.   Lowell Celebrates Kerouac! will celebrate the birthday of

 American author Jack Kerouac with events in Lowell, MA and Nashua, NH on March

 9 and 10, 1996.. The celebration will begin with an informal commemorative

 reading of his work at 4:00 PM, Saturday, March 9, 1996 at Kerouac Park on the

 corner of Bridge and French Streets in Lowell, MA. A guided tour of Kerouac

 sites along the Merrimack River will begin at 6:00 PM from the Pawtuckeville

 MacDonald's Restaurant on the corner of Mammoth Road and VFW Highway. Both

 events will include readings of Kerouac's work with an emphasis on his Lowell

 novel, Dr. Sax. Participants should bring copies of their favorite passages to

 read aloud.

        On Sunday, 10 March, from 2:00 to 4:00 PM at the Barnes & Noble Bookstore,

 Daniel Webster Highway, Nashua, NH, Steve Edington will read from his work in

 progress on the history of the Kerouac family in Nashua,

 

Jack Kerouac Birthday Events are summarized as follows:

 

Saturday, 9 March 1996

4:00 PM Commemorative Reading at Kerouac Park (Corner of Bridge and French

 Streets, Lowell, MA) Bring your favorite passage and join in.

 

6:00 PM "Poems of the Night" a guided tour of Kerouac sites along the Merrimack

 River. Tour begins at the Pawtuckeville MacDonald's Restaurant, corner of

 Mammoth Road and VFW Highway. Bring your copy of Dr. Sax.

 

Sunday, 10 March 1996

2:00-4:00 PM    "The Nashua Connection" Steve Edington reads from his work in

 progress on Kerouac's literary and biographical association with Nashua, NH.

 Barnes and Noble Bookstore, Daniel Webster Highway, Nashua, NH.

 

Jack Kerouac was born on March 12, 1922 in Lowell, Massachusetts to a

 French-Canadian Catholic family.  A prolific poet and novelist, he chronicled

 his childhood years in Lowell, and the adventures and experiences of

 contemporaries as they traveled throughout he US and the world. On the Road,

 published in 1957, brought him immediate fame , and Kerouac was acclaimed the

 voice of the Beat Generation. The city of Lowell and his experiences growing up

 in the Franco-American community here are central to Jack Kerouac's art and

 writings. Five of his 11 novels are set in Lowell, and the city is mentioned in

 all of his books. Jack Kerouac remains one of the most influential and

 inspirational of American writers.These novels are read and appreciated

 throughout the world.

 

Lowell Celebrates Kerouac!, Inc., a non-profit corporation, produces the Annual

 Lowell Celebrates Kerouac! Festival held each October in Lowell, MA. Our

 mission is to encourage the study and enjoyment of Jack Kerouac's art by

 sharing the Lowell experience with visitors and by educating local residents

 about the influence of Jack Kerouac on modern American culture and literature.

 

The 9th Annual Lowell Celebrates Kerouac! Festival will be held  October 1996.

 Planning for this year's festival has already begun. The Festival committee

 meets the third Thursday of each month at 7:00 PM in the Pollard Memorial

 Library in Lowell. We need lots of help. Membership is open to anyone

 interested in working to celebrate the joyful spirit of Jack Kerouac. For

 information on membership, activities and meeting dates, write Lowell

 Celebrates Kerouac!, Box 1111, Lowell, MA 01853, call 508-458-1721, or email

 mhemenway@igc.apc.org.

 

***END***

 

Prepared 19 February 1996

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 08:48:49 EST

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         mARK hEMENWAY <mhemenway@S1.DRC.COM>

Subject:      Kerouac Birthday

Comments: To: brooklyn@netcom.com, schorr@world.std.com, event@globe.com,

          noweek@globe.com, living@globe.com, klmcomm@aol.com,

          heraldedit@delphi.com, 71632.63@compuserve.com, mnews@world.std.com,

          radio@csps.com, news@baywindows.com, wbcn104fm@aol.com

 

LOWELL CELEBRATES JACK KEROUAC'S BIRTHDAY

 

LOWELL, MA.   Lowell Celebrates Kerouac! will celebrate the birthday of

American author Jack Kerouac with events in Lowell, MA and Nashua, NH on

March 9 and 10, 1996..

 

<<Saturday, 9 March 1996>>

4:00 PM Commemorative Reading at Kerouac Park (Corner of Bridge and French

Streets, Lowell, MA) Bring your favorite passage and join in.

 

6:00 PM "Poems of the Night" a guided tour of Kerouac sites along the

Merrimack River. Tour begins at the Pawtuckeville MacDonald's Restaurant,

corner of Mammoth Road and VFW Highway. Bring your copy of Dr. Sax.

 

>>Sunday, 10 March 1996>>

2:00-4:00 PM    "The Nashua Connection" Steve Edington reads from his work

in progress on Kerouac's literary and biographical association with

Nashua, NH. Barnes and Noble Bookstore, Daniel Webster Highway, Nashua,

NH.

 

Press Release Attached.

 

For more information call 508-458-1721, or email mhemenway@igc.apc.org.

 

Thanks,

 

Mark Hemenway

Lowell Celebrates Kerouac!, IncLowell Celebrates Kerouac!

P.O. Box 1111, Lowell, MA 01853

 

 

 

PRESS RELEASE

 

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE           PRESS CONTACT:  Mark Hemenway                                                                   (508)475-9090 or

                                                                        (508)458-1721

 

                                                PUBLIC INQUIRIES: (508)458-1721

 

LOWELL EVENTS TO CELEBRATE JACK KEROUAC BIRTHDAY

 

        LOWELL, MA.   Lowell Celebrates Kerouac! will celebrate the birthday of

 American author Jack Kerouac with events in Lowell, MA and Nashua, NH on March

 9 and 10, 1996.. The celebration will begin with an informal commemorative

 reading of his work at 4:00 PM, Saturday, March 9, 1996 at Kerouac Park on the

 corner of Bridge and French Streets in Lowell, MA. A guided tour of Kerouac

 sites along the Merrimack River will begin at 6:00 PM from the Pawtuckeville

 MacDonald's Restaurant on the corner of Mammoth Road and VFW Highway. Both

 events will include readings of Kerouac's work with an emphasis on his Lowell

 novel, Dr. Sax. Participants should bring copies of their favorite passages to

 read aloud.

        On Sunday, 10 March, from 2:00 to 4:00 PM at the Barnes & Noble Bookstore,

 Daniel Webster Highway, Nashua, NH, Steve Edington will read from his work in

 progress on the history of the Kerouac family in Nashua,

 

Jack Kerouac Birthday Events are summarized as follows:

 

Saturday, 9 March 1996

4:00 PM Commemorative Reading at Kerouac Park (Corner of Bridge and French

 Streets, Lowell, MA) Bring your favorite passage and join in.

 

6:00 PM "Poems of the Night" a guided tour of Kerouac sites along the Merrimack

 River. Tour begins at the Pawtuckeville MacDonald's Restaurant, corner of

 Mammoth Road and VFW Highway. Bring your copy of Dr. Sax.

 

Sunday, 10 March 1996

2:00-4:00 PM    "The Nashua Connection" Steve Edington reads from his work in

 progress on Kerouac's literary and biographical association with Nashua, NH.

 Barnes and Noble Bookstore, Daniel Webster Highway, Nashua, NH.

 

Jack Kerouac was born on March 12, 1922 in Lowell, Massachusetts to a

 French-Canadian Catholic family.  A prolific poet and novelist, he chronicled

 his childhood years in Lowell, and the adventures and experiences of

 contemporaries as they traveled throughout he US and the world. On the Road,

 published in 1957, brought him immediate fame , and Kerouac was acclaimed the

 voice of the Beat Generation. The city of Lowell and his experiences growing up

 in the Franco-American community here are central to Jack Kerouac's art and

 writings. Five of his 11 novels are set in Lowell, and the city is mentioned in

 all of his books. Jack Kerouac remains one of the most influential and

 inspirational of American writers.These novels are read and appreciated

 throughout the world.

 

Lowell Celebrates Kerouac!, Inc., a non-profit corporation, produces the Annual

 Lowell Celebrates Kerouac! Festival held each October in Lowell, MA. Our

 mission is to encourage the study and enjoyment of Jack Kerouac's art by

 sharing the Lowell experience with visitors and by educating local residents

 about the influence of Jack Kerouac on modern American culture and literature.

 

The 9th Annual Lowell Celebrates Kerouac! Festival will be held  October 1996.

 Planning for this year's festival has already begun. The Festival committee

 meets the third Thursday of each month at 7:00 PM in the Pollard Memorial

 Library in Lowell. We need lots of help. Membership is open to anyone

 interested in working to celebrate the joyful spirit of Jack Kerouac. For

 information on membership, activities and meeting dates, write Lowell

 Celebrates Kerouac!, Box 1111, Lowell, MA 01853, call 508-458-1721, or email

 mhemenway@igc.apc.org.

 

***END***

 

Prepared 19 February 1996

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 14:08:03 +0100

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Moritz Rossbach <moro0000@STUD.UNI-SB.DE>

Subject:      Re: Kerouac...an obnoxious fellow?

Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list BEAT-L <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.uucp>

In-Reply-To:  <Pine.A32.3.91.960213142555.96138A-100000@juliet.stfx.ca>

 

Hi folks,

I`m new to the list (as I am to all this computer and internet stuff) and

I`m from Germany, so please forgive me for having a bad English.

Well, since I admire Kerouac very much I`m kind of annoyed that he was an

asshole. Could it be that he became like this very late in his life

because he could not bear his succes and his being looked upon an

established writer by the "high society"?

 

 

Mit freundlichem Gruss (means something like Sincerely)

Moritz Rossbach

eMail moro0000@stud.uni-sb.de

 

On Tue, 13 Feb 1996, Noah Bergman wrote:

 

> I seem to remember reading something Ann Charters wrote about visiting

> Kerouacvery late in his life and how he kept insuating that he wanted to

> have sex with her before she left.  (please forgive me if this is wrong.

> I read a lot of stuff and I could have made a mistake).  Descriptions of

> telephone conversations he had with Carolyn Cassidy later on also point

> to his being a general asshole.  But man, his writing more than

> compensates for a poor personality!

> Also...does anyone know where I can find a written version of Kerouac's

> "origins of bop" essay.  I've heard his reading of it and would really

> love to have a transcription.

>

>         -------------------------------------------------------------

>         I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness...

>         -------------------------------------------------------------

>                                 Noah Bergman

>                            x95vyk@juliet.stfx.ca

>                               Box 730  St. FXU

>                           Antigonish, Nova Scotia

>                                   B2G 2X1

>                               (902) 867-2517

>

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 14:55:09 +0100

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Leo Jilk <leo.august.jilk@SPARKY.MPS.ORG>

Subject:      Re: Kerouac...an obnoxious fellow?

 

>Hi folks,

>I`m new to the list (as I am to all this computer and internet stuff) and

>I`m from Germany, so please forgive me for having a bad English.

>Well, since I admire Kerouac very much I`m kind of annoyed that he was an

>asshole. Could it be that he became like this very late in his life

>because he could not bear his succes and his being looked upon an

>established writer by the "high society"?

 

Personally, I say Kerouac was what he was.  We should admire him for his

writing and his intellingence, his insight.  I have heard he was

conservative, he was always bothering Ginsberg about his being a Jew.  Some

of the reputation he has as an asswhole is no doubt due to his drinking,

his inability to handle fame.

        Other great writers have also had flaws in their personality.

Faulkner, for example has always been criticized for his racism, use of the

word "nigger" is his books.  College students would drive dy his house and

yell "Hey Faulkner.  Say something!"  He was invariably drunk and would

urinate in front of them.  But writers are also people; influenced by their

upbringing, their religion, experiences.

 

                        --LJ

 

 

 

 

 

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so

certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."

 

                        --Bertrand Russel

 

"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so."

 

                --Douglas Adams

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:20:12 -0500

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         "Ritter, Chris D" <rittec@UH2297P01.DAYTONOH.ATTGIS.COM>

Subject:      Re: beat writers, current status

Comments: To: "BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET" <BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>

 

>On Mon, 12 Feb 1996, Ritter, Chris D wrote:

>> Kerouac, No; Ginsberg, Yes, and struggling.

>

>how is Ginsberg struggling?

 

As far as I know he's been recovering from some non-serious

physical ailments here recently.

 

                                             ..Critter

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:20:15 -0500

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         "Ritter, Chris D" <rittec@UH2297P01.DAYTONOH.ATTGIS.COM>

Subject:      Burroughs elsewhere in music

Comments: To: "BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET" <BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>

 

I've also heard that he covered an R.E.M. tune-- Star Me Kitten,

for an episode of  The X Files.

 

                                        ..Critter

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:32:40 -0500

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         "Ritter, Chris D" <rittec@UH2297P01.DAYTONOH.ATTGIS.COM>

Subject:      Re: Burroughs-Priest

Comments: To: "BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET" <BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>

 

>In tune with all the priest stuff -

>

>Wasn't Bill's character in _Drugstore Cowboy_ a junkie priest?

 

Yes, ex-junkie.. but that's knit-picking.

 

                ..Critter

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:58:08 -0500

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         "Ritter, Chris D" <rittec@UH2297P01.DAYTONOH.ATTGIS.COM>

Subject:      Re: Burroughs-Priest (fwd)

Comments: To: "BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET" <BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>

 

>Anyone catch Bill's appearance in Van Sant's Even Cowgirls Get the Blues,

>or the aids awareness movie 'And the Band Played On', both fairly recent

>films.........

 

He had a what? 30 sec appearance in Even Cowgirls? I never did get to

finish The Band though, I was watching it with a queer friend of mine that

was so in a knot about the movie we had to turn it off to shut him up...

 

                              ..Critter

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:58:11 -0500

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         "Ritter, Chris D" <rittec@UH2297P01.DAYTONOH.ATTGIS.COM>

Subject:      Re: WSB Roswell Opera

Comments: To: "BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET" <BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>

 

>Anyone heard more details about the project Bill was involved with

>concerning the Roswell 47 UFO crash? Apparently, according to Miles biog

>it was to be an opera. I know that Bill was involved with the Black Rider

>project with, I think, the same people who were working on this Roswell

>opera......There is mentioned in Miles a lot of stuff that Bill was

>working on around 91/92 what ever became of this?

 

Apparently the idea is still in the works, but as far as I know  there's

nothing

in the way of completion.

 

 ...Critter

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:00:14 -0500

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         "Ritter, Chris D" <rittec@UH2297P01.DAYTONOH.ATTGIS.COM>

Subject:      Re: jk recordings

Comments: To: "BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET" <BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>

 

>I just wanted to clarify something.  What are the limits to discussion on

>this list?  I made an offhand comment about my own generation and was

>chastised for it.  It seems to me that in keeping with the beat spirit,

>discussions on just about anything should go.  I agree that in keeping

>with the nature of the list they should pertain to the beat generation in

>some way, but c'mon now.  If there are further limits to what can and

>can't be discussed on this list I would appreciate someone telling me.

 

I believe this is the eleventh hundred time I've seen this question come

up and due to the fact that I was one of the primary advocators of the

GenX discussion when it was in full bloom I figured it necessary for me

to start up a listserv for this and other topics that I've had elsewhere

that

others have felt would do better elsewhere.

 

If there is anyone interested in a listserv committed to avant-garde

literature, film, drama, and art in general.. the philosophies behind them

and where they are taking us in the future, please contact me personally.

It isn't up and running yet, but it would be nice to see who is even

possibly

interested in this from the list.

 

Oh, and postmodern and/or GenX the list will consider to be avant-garde.

[smile]

 

                                    ...Critter

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:04:32 -0500

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         "Ritter, Chris D" <rittec@UH2297P01.DAYTONOH.ATTGIS.COM>

Subject:      Re: jk recordings

Comments: To: "BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET" <BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>

 

>> I've heard that Kerouac made recordings of himself reading prose and

poetry

>> (well i know he did from Visions of Cody). Is it possible to buy these or

are

>> they available. I have a recent song where Jk's reading is backed by

hip-hop

>> /jazz music dunno who dunnit though. Anybody with info on these?....v.

>there's box set....called "the beat generation"

>check out a good music store....i've seen it everywhere.

 

I just acquired the Kerouac box set a few days ago. The second CD is a

collection of hakius w/ a jazz back-up. I've always had trouble writing and

listening to someone else read.. really fucks w/ the psyche, but for those

of

you who are looking for some excellent music just to listen to, this entire

CD is a lot more than simple readings, the music is very very good, at least

a good accompaniment.

 

                 ..Critter

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:04:35 -0500

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         "Ritter, Chris D" <rittec@UH2297P01.DAYTONOH.ATTGIS.COM>

Subject:      Re: jk recordings

Comments: To: "BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET" <BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>

 

>Are you young folks averse to books? Are they considered un-hip? What

gives?

>

>Louis Proyect

 

Consider this a list phase. [smile]

 

                  ..Critter

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:10:34 -0500

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         "Ritter, Chris D" <rittec@UH2297P01.DAYTONOH.ATTGIS.COM>

Subject:      Re: wsb and black rider

Comments: To: "BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET" <BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>

 

>the black rider is an album by tom waits and burroughs appears on a couple

of

>tracks, they're very good.If waits is doing the roswell opera it should

prove

>interesting.Waits' earlier work is influenced by the beats and well worth

>checking out esp. closing time, the heart of saturday night and blue

valentine.

 

Wait's appears twice on the Beat Generation box set.

 

                                     ...Critter

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:10:37 -0500

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         "Ritter, Chris D" <rittec@UH2297P01.DAYTONOH.ATTGIS.COM>

Subject:      Re: jk recordings

Comments: To: "BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET" <BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>

 

>What is the fascination with style? What is the fascination with

>rock-and-roll, MTV, poetry readings that seem to be set up for a Gap

>commercial? I simply don't understand the bohemian culture of today. It

>seems to owe a superficial allegiance to beat culture of the 1950s, but

>doesn't seem to be anywhere as intellectual or literary.

>

>So, sorry to appear rude, censorious or insensitive. I am simply putting

>questions forward in my own blunt style.

>

>

>Louis Proyect

 

Louis, I'd absolutely love to answer your question in detail, being that as

a writer influenced by these trends, a "researcher" interested in the

details,

and a member of the class myself, I've been following these trends and

have come up with some theories on my own. Unfortunately this isn't

the proper place to do so. If you are interested you can contact me

personally

w/ this or-- a better idea-- wait until I get my ass in gear and get the

listserv up

and running then we can all trash my generation and discuss how dissimilar

they are to the Beats and how like we are to the Lost generation.

 

                                      ...Critter (Critter@mail.serve.com)

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:16:08 -0500

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         "Ritter, Chris D" <rittec@UH2297P01.DAYTONOH.ATTGIS.COM>

Subject:      Re: jk recordings (fwd)

Comments: To: "BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET" <BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>

 

>Find yourself some real bohemians and they are just as intellectual as the

>best of the 50's and 60's.  I'd wager to say that the intellectuals of

>today are much more aware than their predecessors, they have to be.

 

Most of the 'bohemians' that I associate w/ [love kicking aroud that word

like that] are indeed very much part of the conscience, either globally,

artistically, economically, intellectually, politically, or what have you.

It's

a necessity to be able to prove yourself when you are viewed as radical

or bohemian. The slam on the frat boys and girls was valid. You ask them

the purpose behind their nose ring and they'll have no answer for you. If

you ask the same of a true 'bohemian' I can guarantee you'll receive a

philosophy that sounds something like a Dharmic Sadism.

 

                                                                 ...Critter

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:16:11 -0500

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         "Ritter, Chris D" <rittec@UH2297P01.DAYTONOH.ATTGIS.COM>

Subject:      Re: the list

Comments: To: "BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET" <BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>

 

>Will all of you stop being so fucking sensitive. No, don't go away just

>because an old buzzard like myself badmouths Gap commercials.

>

>Louis Proyect

 

I'm sorry.. normally it annoys me when people respond back w/ a

message that says nothing, and I'll admit, this reply said little more

than "Right On!" Man, I couldn't help but laugh when I read this!

 

Welcome on, Louis! [smile]

 

                                                                ...Critter

of X

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:21:12 EST

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Mark Fisher <Fisher@PROGRAMART.COM>

Subject:      Re[2]: jk recordings

Comments: To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET@uunet.uu.net>

 

>I just wanted to clarify something.  What are the limits to discussion on

>this list?  I made an offhand comment about my own generation and was

>chastised for it.  It seems to me that in keeping with the beat spirit,

>discussions on just about anything should go.  I agree that in keeping

>with the nature of the list they should pertain to the beat generation in

>some way, but c'mon now.  If there are further limits to what can and

>can't be discussed on this list I would appreciate someone telling me.

 

I believe this is the eleventh hundred time I've seen this question come

up and due to the fact that I was one of the primary advocators of the

GenX discussion when it was in full bloom I figured it necessary for me

to start up a listserv for this and other topics that I've had elsewhere

that

others have felt would do better elsewhere.

 

If there is anyone interested in a listserv committed to avant-garde

literature, film, drama, and art in general.. the philosophies behind them

and where they are taking us in the future, please contact me personally.

It isn't up and running yet, but it would be nice to see who is even

possibly

interested in this from the list.

 

Oh, and postmodern and/or GenX the list will consider to be avant-garde.

[smile]

 

                                    ...Critter

 

I would be interested in such a list. Is the individual asking this

question the owner of the beat list? Would this proposed list allow

discussion of any post beat writings? How about beat contemporaries

like Philip K. Dick and Jim Thompson or is that too much of a reach?

What kind of list would a young Jack Kerouac, Allen Ginsberg, et. al. use?

How about a list for creative writers, rather than scholars and fans.

 

                               "Make it new."

                                    -Ezra Pound, I think

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 18:07:46 -0500

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Carl Luoma <Filosipher@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Books

 

In a message dated 96-02-15 13:00:57 EST, you write:

 

>How many people out there have read any books by the Beats besides On the

>Road or Naked Lunch?

>

>

 

I haven't but that doesn't mean that I won't, I just got into the Beats, so I

believe that I will be reading much more of the books by the Beats

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 18:07:49 -0500

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Carl Luoma <Filosipher@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: beat writers, current status (fwd)

 

In a message dated 96-02-15 13:10:12 EST, you write:

 

>"All those writers were terribly dull," he said. I don't believe it.

>

>

 

I could believe it.  They may seem dull to strangers and people who weren't

close to them, but I also agree,   I think burroughs would make the best

grandfather.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 18:08:25 -0500

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Carl Luoma <Filosipher@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: fucked up on rugs

 

In a message dated 96-02-16 11:49:24 EST, you write:

 

>The same goes for NAKED LUNCH--a sober WSB just

>couldn't have written it.

 

I remember seeing something on bravo (TVstation)  about burroughs where he

said that if it weren't for drugs, Naked Lunch would never been written.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 18:08:13 -0500

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Carl Luoma <Filosipher@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: beats exhibit

 

In a message dated 96-02-17 16:20:46 EST, you write:

 

>The Beat exhibit at the Whitney in NYC is over now.  It will open in

>Minneapolis again in late spring.

>

>Howard Park

>

>

 

Any speciffic info?  dates?  where in Mpls?

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 19:01:32 -0500

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         "Ritter, Chris D" <rittec@UH2297P01.DAYTONOH.ATTGIS.COM>

Subject:      The Avant-Liste

Comments: To: "BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET" <BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>

 

I forgot to list my address, which would be helpful I suppose.

 

Critter: (Critter@mail.serve.com)

 

>I would be interested in such a list. Is the individual asking this

>question the owner of the beat list?

 

No.

 

>Would this proposed list allow

>discussion of any post beat writings? How about beat contemporaries

>like Philip K. Dick and Jim Thompson or is that too much of a reach?

 

The proposed list (which is a wonderful way to put it) is setting out

mainly to find the roots of avant-garde in art and attempt to follow the

patterns into the "next movement." While the form will be fairly open

in the discussion of avant-garde art, the focus will primarily be upon

movements or artists which can be considered revolutionary or

anti-artists. Dadaism, Pop Art, Sub-Pop, Postmodernism, Beat, et al.

 

>What kind of list would a young Jack Kerouac, Allen Ginsberg, et. al. use?

 

Well, I can say that anyone interested in working on their own ideas

and passing them around the table w/ others that are interested in

breaking up the ground on which the arts stand upon will find a sure

place for them to do so. If your young JK or AG sees that bitter stagnation

rising up again in that which we call art, then hopefully this proposed

list will be the place to do such a thing.

 

>How about a list for creative writers, rather than scholars and fans.

 

I'll tell ya that first off I'd like to include the practice in w/ the

theory. I appreciate

this list that much more when I get to read a clip from the article or the

book

which the person is talking about which I may not have read. Not only does

it

clue me into their meaning, but also it entertains much more than a

collection of

anti-GenX replys. If the sharing starts to flood the list with too much

material then

some other means will have to be met. At this time I see the sharing being

done for a purpose. If someone wrote a catchy little ditty that they think

would

make a cute love song, then it has no place on the list. If it meets with

the ideas

of avant-garde and what not, then it does have a place in the list.

 

>                               "Make it new."

>                                    -Ezra Pound, I think

 

I hope that was clear enough, I tend to babble.

 

                                       ...Critter (Critter@mail.serve.com)

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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 1996 20:55:02 -0500

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Noah Bergman <x95vyk@JULIET.STFX.CA>

Subject:      Re: beat writers, current status (fwd)

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