beat list 1996

I believe... I would also highly recommend the song, "Step Right Up"

off of his "Small Change" (1977) album... And you're right about that

Burroughs link with "Black Rider" interesting album - especially to

hear Burroughs sing!

bfn,

JDL

Speaking of Uncle Bill singing, check out his version of 'Falling in Love

Again' from the album Dead City Radio. It's great and sung totally in German!

Daniel

I am desperatly searching for the "Black Rider" album. Where and when

has it been released ?

Jens

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From: JENS MOELLENHOFF <JMOELLEN@NW80.CIP.FAK14.UNI-MUENCHEN.DE>

Subject: j.k. school of disembodied poetics

hi there,

can anyone tell me the exact email snail mail or even www adress of the j.k.

school of disembodied

poetics ?

thanks a lot !

jens

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From: JENS MOELLENHOFF <JMOELLEN@NW80.CIP.FAK14.UNI-MUENCHEN.DE>

Subject: biography of brautigan

hi there,

could anyone name me a good richard brautigan biography ?

i tried to get the one by keith abboth, capra press, santa barbara,

calif. 1989, but here in germany it is nearly impossible, to get rare

american books that have been released more than 5 years ago.

i don't know, whether he can be called a beat writer, but he was an

acquaintance of allen ginsberg and appeared on a group photo in arthur and

kit knights' wonderful book "keroac and the beats".

thanks a lot !

jens

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From: JENS MOELLENHOFF <JMOELLEN@NW80.CIP.FAK14.UNI-MUENCHEN.DE>

Subject: the audio brautigan

hi there,

are there any tapes, lps or re-released compact discs with brautigan

reading his wonderful stuff ?

thanks a lot!

jens

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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 10:11:14 +0100

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From: "m.d.fascione" <m.d.fascione@CITY.AC.UK>

Subject: nighthawks at the diner.... (fwd)

Daniel

I am desperatly searching for the "Black Rider" album. Where and when

has it been released ?

Jens

Hello Jens

Black Rider is still available as far as I know. Try the service on

telnet called cdnow. It's at:

cdnow.com

They also stock other Burroughs bits including the recent cd release of

'Call Me Burroughs'.

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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 09:23:03 EDT

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From: mARK hEMENWAY <mhemenway@S1.DRC.COM>

Subject: Re: Beat Publications

Bobby,

I co-publish <<DHARMA beat >> a magazine of all things Kerouac. The latest

issue (#6) includes an unpublished Kerouac piece, a piece on the Kerouac

connection with Nashua, NH, reviews of the Whitney opening and Lowell

Festival as well as resource guides to magazines, zines, books, events,

etc.

Published Spring and Fall. Single issue $2.50, subscription $5.00. Check

to: DHARMA BEAT. Send it to The Jack Kerouac subterranean Information

Society, Box 1753, Lowell, MA 01853. Hard copy only.

Mark h.

P.S. Apologies to everyone for slow response to your letters. My day job

is killing me!, but I do promise I'll get to everyone. Thanks for your

patience.

Mark Hemenway

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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 09:32:17 EDT

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From: mARK hEMENWAY <mhemenway@S1.DRC.COM>

Subject: National Portrait Gallery

I was able to take time on a recent business trip to D.C. to check out the

beat exhibit at the National Portrait Gallery. The exhibit is modest. It

includes paintings, sketches and photos of and by a lot of beat poets and

artists. There's also a bunch of first editions and audio hook-ups. It was

just the right size to be able to disgest. Lots of info, a rare (for me)

wide angle look at the movement that doesn't focus on any single or couple

of people.

The best part was hearing the recording of Jack reading SF Blues in the

Gift Shop of the National Portrait Gallery.

Definitely worth a visit.

Mark Hemenway

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From: Bill Gargan <WXGBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Subject: Re: The Last Time I Committed Suicide

In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 2 May 1996 16:57:18 +0000 from

<jhasbro@TEZCAT.COM>

You've got my vote -- Keroacidy!

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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 09:51:35 -0500

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From: MS GAYLE M ALSTROM <gm_alstrom@PRODIGY.COM>

Subject: listserve

Please removed my name from your e-mail list.

Gayle Alstrom

g_alstrom@prodigy.com

Thank you.

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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 14:53:58 -0400

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From: Nels A Nelson <Nels68Me@AOL.COM>

Subject: Re: biography of brautigan

In a message dated 96-05-03 03:57:09 EDT, you write:

>i don't know, whether he can be called a beat writer, but he was an

>acquaintance of allen ginsberg and appeared on a group photo in arthur and

>kit knights' wonderful book "keroac and the beats".

I think he (Brautigan) falls into a loose category of writers from the

"California" or "West Coast" school - a group that includes Tom Robbins and

Ken Kesey. There seems to be a lot of cross-over into Beat circles with this

group. Sort of a Post-Beat bastard child thing maybe.

Nels

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From: RWhiteBone@AOL.COM

Subject: further

Hello Levi! I'm new to techno. computer illiterate but immersed in

holyunholycyberwater. How do I get on BEAT-L list serve. Please let me know.

Thanks!

Ron "Rollo" Whitehead 5/03/96 3:04PM RWhiteBone@aol.com

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From: Jon Schwartz <JBS@UWYO.EDU>

Subject: Cassady-Kerouac

Just wondering if many of you have read "Holy Goof", a bio of Neal?

Interesting and sad to find that both experienced huge, life-changing

traumas - quite different in detail - that apparently fueled an inward,

Imaginative turn.

The loss of Girard and its impact on Jack is pretty well known. I had not

known about the bizarre, cruel more-or-less torture of Neal by his (I think)

step or half brother, after the two oldest(late teens, as I recall) of these

male relatives of Neal decided that he should leave his father and the

flophouse (which according to this account, was slightly healthier than it

had sounded in other, brief mentions of this period of his life) to live

with his mother and the other boys. Neal was still a single-digit age at

the time, and a slightly older brother/half or step brother would force him

onto one of those beds that fold up into the wall and then slam him into the

storage wall, inside the bed - making him stay there for literally hours on

end. This went on for at least close to a year, perhaps longer. "The Holy

Goof" describes this along with other childhood scenes. The writer quotes

Neal talking about the effect on his mind this had, which sounds a little

like a cross between epilepsy and creative visualization. Apparently, Neal

began to drift loose of the flow of time that he and we presumably normally

experience...such that he was a bit faster than those nearby. In later life,

Neal would experience increasing periods of "white outs" or near autism.

I'm no expert, but it occured to me that childhood abuse can cause

personality splits and other disorders. Also, his violence with women might

possibly have stemmed from this treatment.

The book has an excellent discussion of the nature and subsequent emotional

and mental impact on Neal's preceptions. Looks like both of the arguably

central characters in the Beat generation shared a life-changing,

terror-inspiring childhood event that both touched off creativity, perhaps

as an adaptation to the pain, and emotional scarring that may well have

contributed to their difficult (as well as spectacular and creative) adult

lives.

Anyone have more or better info on this?

Best regards to all,

Jon Schwartz

jbs@uwyo.edu

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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 17:20:20 -0400

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From: RWhiteBone@AOL.COM

Subject: and I'm searchin for Levi

Hello again Levi! I've misplaced your e-mail address so sending this message

with hope that it finds you. Exchanged messages with Sara in Chicago today.

I'm trying to get caught up on few hundred letters, phone calls, & e-mail

messages. On March 30th was sucketpunched by Kentucky militiaman type genuine

redneck broke nose, cheek, jaw, permanently dislocated jaw, concussion with

migraines. Left side of face moved to right side. Hard to believe one vicious

punch could do so much damage. Wonder if he had something in his hand.

Already had two surgeries to straighten face out. Told yesterday that I'll

have to endure 4-5 years of orthodontic surgery treatments complete

reconstruction of inside mouth. Guy who hit me pleaded guilty confessed last

Wednesday. Our present fascist Congress and people like Rush Limbow have

provided an environment in which people like man who hit me have been given

the confidence to come out of the closet and unleash release their anger

angst anxieties on whoever they feel isn't one of them on their side anyone

who appears to be liberal feminazi etc. And yes I have written new poem

titled "Most Wanted" which I presented at reading last week. Anyway Sara from

Chicago sent me report on Washington D.C. Smithsonian National Portrait

Gallery exhibition event reading The Birth of The Beat Generation Rebels

Poets Painters of the 50s. I've had to cancel numerous engagements due to

full time visits to doctors but have managed to make a few readings &

Lawrence Ferlinghetti, my mentor & friend, invited me to D.C. for the

happenings plus so we could get caught up on various projects we're working

on now. It was a wonderful event but tomblike aura with museum surroundings.

Energy low compared to most readings I've participated in & been witness to.

I commend Smithsonian for courage to have the event in face of current

political climate but still explicit obvious attempt to mummify The Beats who

aren't dead and never will be. They were & are the most important group of

writers in history of America. Their spirit lives even stronger today than

ever as witnessed in hearts souls actions lives of young people all over the

world who crave Beat energy who understand Beat energy who are themselves

Beat who want to change world who are frustrated with fucking status quo

power-monger elite & who recognize that Beats are still the only revolution

(along with computerworld which they have now entered engendered revolution

there too) around. Diane di Prima was not present at event. I talked with her

last week. Although she is ailing physically somewhat with bad back she is

strong as ever. I just published new Published in Heaven poster by Diane. New

poem titled

"Good Clean Fun" bout present political climate. And Lawrence gave me new

poem for poster (last one he read at National Portrait Gallery) which is also

bout present political climate. Both so strong. Yes Diane the only war that

matters is the war against the imagination. Check out Diane's poem "Rant" in

her PIECES OF A SONG published 1990 by City Lights. She is one of world's

greatest poets & so relieved that her autobiography is completed and coming

out from Viking Penguin April '97. Youth today recognize the courage of

engagement the Beats still have & they are rightfully inspired by it. For too

long the best have lacked all conviction while the worst have been & are full

of passionate intensity.

Ferlinghetti also updated me on On the Road movie goingson. Hope this finds

you.

All the Best, Ron "Rollo" Whitehead, White Fields Press, 1387 Lexington Road,

Louisville, Kentucky 40206. phone 502-568-4956. e-mail RWhiteBone@aol.com

5/03/96 5:19PM

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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 17:23:58 +0000

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From: "John W. Hasbrouck" <jhasbro@TEZCAT.COM>

Subject: Re: Cassady-Kerouac

Dear Jon, et al.,

As far as I know, the material in "The Holy Goof" describing Neal being

terrorized by his brother(s) was taken entirely from Neal's own

description of his childhood in "The First Third". It's important to

know that TFT is now in print in a revised, substantially enlarged

edition which contains a great deal of new material concerning Neal's

childhood and family history.

At first, I liked "The Holy Goof", but recently while rereading it

(during my not-quite-notorious Chronological Beat Reading Project) I

found it to be seriously inadequate. I mean, jeez, WHOLE YEARS from the

fifties are dealt with in a paragraph or two, if at all! I don't really

want to disparage it too much, it being, after all, a POPULAR BIOGRAPHY.

It pains me to think that we are lucky to have even this, and I am still

waiting for the day when a 1000 page CRITICAL BIOGRAPHY of Cowboy Neal

written by a PROFESSIONAL SCHOLAR hits the shops.

Anyway, by all means pick up and READ the revised edition of "The First

Third" if your reading schedule permits.

As ever,

John H.

Chicago

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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 19:00:34 -0400

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From: John Iaquinta <JIaqui2615@AOL.COM>

Subject: Re: biography of brautigan

Afraid I can't help with your search, but if you have a chance I'd appreciate

address and info for Capra Press.

thanx

John

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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 17:03:04 -0600

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From: Jon Schwartz <JBS@UWYO.EDU>

Subject: Re: Cassady-Kerouac

Hi John H.!

Thanks for the tip on the new edition of "The First Third." Do you or does

anyone have price and format info on it?

Best regards to all,

Jon

>Dear Jon, et al.,

>As far as I know, the material in "The Holy Goof" describing Neal being

>terrorized by his brother(s) was taken entirely from Neal's own

>description of his childhood in "The First Third". It's important to

>know that TFT is now in print in a revised, substantially enlarged

>edition which contains a great deal of new material concerning Neal's

>childhood and family history.

>At first, I liked "The Holy Goof", but recently while rereading it

>(during my not-quite-notorious Chronological Beat Reading Project) I

>found it to be seriously inadequate. I mean, jeez, WHOLE YEARS from the

>fifties are dealt with in a paragraph or two, if at all! I don't really

>want to disparage it too much, it being, after all, a POPULAR BIOGRAPHY.

>It pains me to think that we are lucky to have even this, and I am still

>waiting for the day when a 1000 page CRITICAL BIOGRAPHY of Cowboy Neal

>written by a PROFESSIONAL SCHOLAR hits the shops.

>Anyway, by all means pick up and READ the revised edition of "The First

>Third" if your reading schedule permits.

>As ever,

>John H.

>Chicago

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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 15:10:19 -0700

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From: Timothy Gallaher <gallaher@HSC.USC.EDU>

Subject: Re: and I'm searchin for Levi

>Our present fascist Congress and people like Rush Limbow have

>provided an environment in which people like man who hit me have been given

>the confidence to come out of the closet and unleash release their anger

>angst anxieties on whoever they feel isn't one of them on their side...

Sounds like a classic case of projection.

Anyhow, Levi Asher probably read this message, but his e-mail is

brooklyn@netcom.com

Sorry that some moron hit you. I hope he gets put away for a good long

time, but probably won't. Hope you feel better and heal up well.

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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 19:24:37 -0400

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From: John Iaquinta <JIaqui2615@AOL.COM>

Subject: Re: The Last Time I Committed Suicide

Although I am unfamiliar with the recording you are discussing, I am

intriqued by the term "Keroassidy." It seems to me that your analysis of the

word is accurate for a couple of reasons; first in consideration of the

emphasis on oral presentation inherent in beat poetry--value of the feel,

taste, and cosmic resonance of words regardless of definition, grammatical

usage, etc. and secondly because your reaction in light of the previous

reason is automatically correct (at least within the confines of your own

emotions, and after all, what else matters?). You may not be able to defend

your position according to the "rules" of traditional literary criticism,

and it sounds like a diffucult point to defend incontrovertibly, but if thats

how it hits you, go with it.

If you have an opportunity to expand on the context in which the term

was used, for the edification of the uninitiated, I for one would be very

interested. By the way congratulations on having found a job with a boss you

can have these sort of discussions with, I don't know what the pays like but

it certainly sounds like a sweet deal to me.

In Reckless Pursuit of Knowledge

John

"Don't Push It, Let it Swing!"

John Pizzarelli

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Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 02:50:38 -0500

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From: Matthew S Sackmann <msackma@MAILHOST.TCS.TULANE.EDU>

Subject: Keroassady...

Comments: To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"

<BEAT-L%CUNYVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.EDU>

In-Reply-To: <960503192436_106157487@emout08.mail.aol.com>

Hmmm...it makes you think. What if there was only Keroassady. I think

with Neal's soul and Jack's ability to write, Keroassady truly would have

saved the human race. We'd all be in heaven right now...well, maybe. I

really do believe that Jack and Neal were both truly special people.

(Allen too, and still is). I just wonder what would have happened if

they kept in touch. I think both of their deaths were partially caused

by their seperation. Im sure this has been discussed many times before

but it truly intrigues me. Goddamn why'd they have to die. I just want

to spend one night with those two and Allen just talking about life and

everything.

I found some awesome books in a used book store today. I was

wondering what you guys think about the prices. $25 for a first edition

of Visions of Cody, hardcover. $30 for a 1rst ed. of Maggie Cassidy,

soft. And $60 for the 1rst british ed. of Maggie Cassidy, 1rst hardcover

ed. I didnt buy these but i did buy Satori in Paris & Pic, Grace beats

Karma (finally, ive found some of neals writings), On the Road (a copy

for my brother), No nature (Snyder), Look Homeward, Angel (Wolfe), and a

book that contains poems by Bukowski and Phillip Lamantia. All in all it

was a very successful outing!

Goodnight

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matt

"Jesus was all virtue, and acted from impulse, not from rules."

-William Blake

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Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 08:38:24 -0700

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From: Dolores Neese <dolores@CRL.COM>

Subject: Enjoy This

Hello all-

See where you fit in the scheme from Toimothy Leary's Chaos & Cyber

Culture, Berkeley, CA: Ronin, 1994.

Evolution of Counter Culture

Beats (1950-1965)

Mood: Cool, laid back.

Aesthetics-Erotics: Artistic, literate, hip. Interested in poetry, drugs,

jazz.

Attitude: Sarcastic, cynical.

Brain-Tech: Low-tech, but early psychedelic explorers.

Intellectual viewpoint: Well-informed, skeptical, street-smart.

Humanist Quotient: tolerant of race and gay rights, but often male

chauvinist.

Politics: Bohemian, anti-establishment.

Cosmic View: Romantic pessimism, Buddhist cosmology.

Hippies (1965-1975)

Mood: Blissed out.

Aesthetics-Erotics: Earthy, horny, free-love oriented. pot, LSD, acid rock.

Attitude: Peaceful, idealistic.

Brain-tech: Spychedelic, but anti-high-tech.

Intellectual Viewpoint: Know-it-all, anti-intellectual.

Humanist Quotient: Male chauvinist, sometimes sexits, but socially

tolerant and global village visionary.

Politics: Classless, irreverent, passivist, but occasionally activist.

Cosmit View: Acceptance of chaotic nature of universe, but via Hindu

passivity. Unscientific, occult minded, intuitive.

Cyberpunks (1975-1990)

Mood: Gloomy. Hip, but downbeat.

Aesthetics-Erotics: Leather and grunge, tatoos, piercings. Hard drugs,

psychedelics, smart drugs. Various forms of rock from

metal to rap.

Attitude: Angry, cynical, feel undervalued buy elders.

Brain Tech: High-tech electronic.

Intellectual viewpoint: Informed, open-minded, irreverent. Inundated with

electronic signals.

Humanist Quotient: Non-sexist, ecological, global minded.

Politics: Alienated, skeptical.

Cosmid View: Pessimist, but closet hope fiends.

New Breed

1990-2005)

Mood: Alert, cheerful.

Aesthetics-Erotics: Invention of personal style. Eclectic. Prefer techno

and ambient music.

Attitude: Self confident.

Brain-Tech: Psychedelic, super high-tech. Smart drugs, brain machines,

Internet.

Intellectual Viewpoint: Informed, open-minded, irreverent.

Humanist Quotient: Tolerant, non-sexist, ecological, global.

Politics: Detached, individualistic. Zen opportunists.

Cosmic View: Acceptance of complexity, willingness to be a "chaos designer."

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Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 11:13:35 -0400

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From: RWhiteBone@AOL.COM

Subject: On the Road

Hello! Yes the film version of On the Road is still on and good news is that

the book itself will be the script. Have a little more info for anyone

interested and/or if you'd like a copy of nearly 200 new titles by Kerouac,

Burroughs, Ginsberg, Ferlinghetti, Corso, di Prima,

Baraka, Jan Kerouac, Hunter S. Thompson, Jim Carroll, His Holiness The Dalai

Lama, Thomas Merton, Robert Lax, Robert Hunter, Lee Ranaldo, BONO, Herbert

Huncke, James Laughlin, Andy Warhol, Edvard Munch, Seamus Heaney, Rita Dove,

Anne Waldman, Ed Sanders, Wendell Berry, Cathal O'Searcaigh, Eithne Strong,

John Updike,

Ron Whitehead, E. Ethelbert Miller, Kent Fielding, Ron Seitz, David Amram,

Leon Driskell, & numerous others from White Fields Press Published in Heaven

Poster, Book, Chapbook, & Audio Series let me know at: Ron Whitehead, White

Fields Press, 1387 Lexington Road, Louisville, Kentucky 40206 USA. phone

502-568-4956 or e-mail at

RWhiteBone@aol.com or check out Web site under construction at

http://www.neosoft.com/~whtfld/ Thanks! Ron Whitehead 5/05/96

11:12AM

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From: "W. Luther Jett" <MagenDror@AOL.COM>

Subject: Cassady raps (repost)

This was posted to the list several months back - A transcript of Cassady

rapping w/ the Grateful Dead in July, 1967. Within the rap, one finds the

phrase: "that was the last time I committed suicide", in the apparent context

of a reference to three-way sex among Cassady, Kerouac, and a woman (not

clear which woman). I don't see the "Keroassady" neologism here, but that may

have been interpreted as mumbling by the original transcriber.

---------------begin pasted text-----------------

>> (Neil)

>> I got the penguin right here in my pocket <loud drums and

>> guitars/Neil mumbling something> -four fingers, ya know, it's just

>> the claw and me, three inches, bigger than- and

>> I said, of course, in the Metro, as they, but it hides my thumb and

>> also reveals my Greek torso, huh... At 49th, I said, Spence?

>> haven't seen him since 51st he said move two, 49th, huh. Nope, move

>> to 51st. <more mumbles/band begins playing> The waiter in 56th beat

>> the 6 seeds he had, seed law in marijuana, the only ratting I ever

>> did... And now marijuana, oooo! I was saying in the- ya alright in

>> there, (taps on the mic) on the wall, Mr Cassady? I only got twenty

>> years on ya... I knew I shoulda worn more paisley. I double-crossed

>> him- no, the son of the mAN is about to bounce the podiUM. Rimsby

>> was impressed in a short drive, huh, I said I'm serious about

>> America DeMarco, Greg, at the, uh, last year, ya know, we arrived

>> it from time. <Lovelight-ish jam> Double-parkin' winamarker(?)

>> speeder and derns(?) six days it was finally she grabbed the, of

>> course, Vics vapor rub, it's in the vaseline, that's what ended it.

>> My first child, forty, uh, two then, Charlie Valensia, on tempo(?)

>> where we had an acid test, but thirteenfifty, his father, half

>> Mexican half Irish like Anthony Quinn, so he loved me, ya know,

>> that was a triumph-pf-of us, the only tree-way I ever had,

>> Kerouac's not queer, but my present wife, the fourth, and he, it

>> was just, NewYear's Eve, sort of, uh, we was always looking for a

>> colored girl, Carol Ashty(?), finally found her, that was the last

>> time I committed suicide, I knew toward the fourth sign, across the

>> Hudson, get across this looong Missooouri that preacher said

>> <mumble> or I didn't see it, move ooon. Ummm, ha-h-haa (to

>> Lovelight.) -menopausal, don't ask me how, twenty years I fell ten

>> on the railroad and ten more for, uh, and, uh, I'll be dead a

>> thousand years see, so, if I don't do right now, right in it- Reb

>> Barker the same acid test then, use to be Al Collins all fat and

>> sassy, you know, but he was all skinny and dressed in a, uh, you

>> can work yourself inta anything, how'd he get outta it? Six days,

>> uh, six glasses a day pretty soon your system demands it thousand

>> days Orabindo(?) says you've had it old joe alcoholic, you know, we

>> used to drink together, but he went drinking. <mumbling> (music is

>> turned up a bit/Neil still mumbling random words) -a German

>> pornograpghy... Uummmbbuuuyyyyyy... He stay offer thou wake to

>> wake(?,) oh, the name of that Christ don't call on that I said

>> that's another, huh, then the next day November 1st is all souls,

>> all saints. <music> Huhuhu. <skat-singing> He did nothin' I did

>> nothin', and finally there's nothin', there wudn't nothin' he

>> wouldn't do for me and nothin' I wouldn't do for him but we sat

>> around all time doin' nothin'! Twentymilesanhourthe great four

>> wheel drift he, uh, adjusting his goggles, ya know, everybody in

>> the audience with their right foot but I can't heel and toe I'm

>> double left, huh, Dooom-dee-dee-umm, dee-

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Luther Jett

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From: Derek Alexander Beaulieu <dabeauli@ACS.UCALGARY.CA>

Subject: Re: On the Road

In-Reply-To: <960505111334_107003295@emout15.mail.aol.com>

ron

i sure would like a copy of your catalog if such a thing exists. this

looks like just the publishing co. i've been looking for some of the

harder to find texts.

can you help?

derek beaulieu

dabeauli@acs.ucalgary.ca

On Sun, 5 May 1996 RWhiteBone@AOL.COM wrote:

> Hello! Yes the film version of On the Road is still on and good news is that

> the book itself will be the script. Have a little more info for anyone

> interested and/or if you'd like a copy of nearly 200 new titles by Kerouac,

> Burroughs, Ginsberg, Ferlinghetti, Corso, di Prima,

> Baraka, Jan Kerouac, Hunter S. Thompson, Jim Carroll, His Holiness The Dalai

> Lama, Thomas Merton, Robert Lax, Robert Hunter, Lee Ranaldo, BONO, Herbert

> Huncke, James Laughlin, Andy Warhol, Edvard Munch, Seamus Heaney, Rita Dove,

> Anne Waldman, Ed Sanders, Wendell Berry, Cathal O'Searcaigh, Eithne Strong,

> John Updike,

> Ron Whitehead, E. Ethelbert Miller, Kent Fielding, Ron Seitz, David Amram,

> Leon Driskell, & numerous others from White Fields Press Published in Heaven

> Poster, Book, Chapbook, & Audio Series let me know at: Ron Whitehead, White

> Fields Press, 1387 Lexington Road, Louisville, Kentucky 40206 USA. phone

> 502-568-4956 or e-mail at

> RWhiteBone@aol.com or check out Web site under construction at

> http://www.neosoft.com/~whtfld/ Thanks! Ron Whitehead 5/05/96

> 11:12AM

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From: CANAPP <Canapp@CRIS.COM>

Subject: Re: Dr. Leary's Chaos and Cyber Culture

Hi, all:

I just wanted to thank Delores Neese for sharing Dr. Leary's thoughts with

all of us on our current culture. Up until I read that, I'd always

considered myself a "hippie", considering I'm too young to have been a

Beat. But, after reading the descriptions, I find I am a Beat. It's the

only catgory that really fits me. <g>. Anyway, just wanted to thank her

again for sharing that, it's really priceless.

Regarding Dr. Leary, I guess everyone knows he is dying and plans to "take

himself out, on his own terms", when the pain from his cancer becomes too

unbearable. There are rumors all over the Net that he's going to do it

on-line and videotape the whole thing. Not sure how I feel about that.

Those of you my age, may remember in the early 1970's, the Moody Blues put

out an album, and there was a song on it titled, I think, "Seventh

Sojourn," in which they sang the lyrics, "Timothy Leary's dead," over and

over. I recently heard that the members of the group recently had

telephone conference call with Dr. Leary and sang to him over the phone,

"Timothy Leary's Alive." I thought that was really wonderful.

Thanks for your time,

Mary Beth

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From: Bill Weir <weir@HALCYON.COM>

Subject: Re: Cassady raps (repost)

>This was posted to the list several months back - A transcript of Cassady

>rapping w/ the Grateful Dead in July, 1967. Within the rap, one finds the

>phrase: "that was the last time I committed suicide", in the apparent context

>of a reference to three-way sex among Cassady, Kerouac, and a woman (not

>clear which woman). I don't see the "Keroassady" neologism here, but that may

>have been interpreted as mumbling by the original transcriber.

>---------------begin pasted text-----------------

>>> (Neil)

>>> I got the penguin right here in my pocket <loud drums and

>>> guitars/Neil mumbling something> -four fingers, ya know, it's just

>>> the claw and me, three inches, bigger than- and

This is a poor transcription with many errors.. check out the one that was

refered to earlier:

ftp://gdead.berkeley.edu/pub/gdead/miscellaneous/Cassady-Rap

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Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 21:14:46 +0100

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From: "m.d.fascione" <m.d.fascione@CITY.AC.UK>

Subject: Re: Dr. Leary's Chaos and Cyber Culture

Comments: To: CANAPP <Canapp@cris.com>

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On Sun, 5 May 1996, CANAPP wrote:

> Regarding Dr. Leary, I guess everyone knows he is dying and plans to "take

> himself out, on his own terms", when the pain from his cancer becomes too

> unbearable. There are rumors all over the Net that he's going to do it

> on-line and videotape the whole thing. Not sure how I feel about that.

Check out:

http://www.leary.com

Daniel

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Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 16:33:21 -0400

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From: Ron Whitehead <RWhiteBone@AOL.COM>

Subject: Fwd: a brief history of the literary renaissance & White Fields

Press

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Subj: a brief history of the literary renaissance & White Fields Press

Date: 96-05-05 16:31:47 EDT

From: RWhiteBone

To: whtfld@neosoft.com

Hello Dave! Here's updated Mission Statement & brief history of White Fields

Press & the literary renaissance that I think should be added to Web Site.

Mission Statement

a brief history of White Fields Press and the literary renaissance

"We would experience a little of the secret movements which are made

unnoticed in the remote places of the soul, the capricious disorder of

perceptions, the delicate life of fantasy held under the magnifying glass,

the wanderings of these thoughts and feelings out of the blue; motionless,

trackless journeys with the brain and the heart, strange activities of the

nerves, the whispering of the blood, the pleading of the bone, the entire

unconscious life of the mind." Knut Hamsun

Art is a kind of innate drive that seizes a human being and makes her or him

its instrument. The artist is not simply a person acting freely, in pursuit

of a merely private end, but one who allows art to realize its purposes

through her or his person. Artists have moods, free will, personal aims, but

as artists they are bearers of a collective humanity, carrying and shaping

the common unconscious life of the species.

so what, so what is the literary renaissance?

"The only war that matters is the war against the imagination all other wars

are sumsumed in it." Diane di Prima

The psychic makeup of creative persons attracts attention, but the actual

artistic achievement is the bedrock of inquiry when it is directed toward

understanding the artist, for the artistic disposition adheres to a charisma

that attaches to the 'office' and has collective aspects.

"To be an artist is to fail, as no other dare fail." Samuel Beckett

On April 23,1993, after meditating on Thomas Merton's grave, outside the

Abbey at Gethsemani, with Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Ron Whitehead and Kent

Fielding formed the literary renaissance, a culturally diverse, non-profit

organization, supporting a global literary community. Their goal is to create

a discourse, to give a voice, an equal voice, to those who haven't been heard

(minorities, women: all races, all people) without excluding anyone. Their

mission is inclusive: to create a place where the creative imagination is the

vital source and all people stand on and share common ground, a place where

known and unknown walk hand in hand. Their goal is to remind people,

regardless of vocation or lifestyle, of the importance of the creative

imagination in our lives. The creative imagination can open doorways, provide

salvation from an apparently hopeless existence, inspire us to achieve goals,

dreams, visions. And as stress eats at our lives, often compelling people to

intentionally end their lives in suicide, we can be reminded through the

imagination to never give up, to know that there is always another way, an

alternative path to life, to living not just a mundane life but a full and

inspired one.

Ron and Kent had formed an alliance, on February 4, 1992 at the University of

Louisville where, in fifteen months, they published four issues of THINKER

REVIEW, an international journal for the arts (including a women's poetry

anthology, THE DARK WOODS I CROSS), plus sponsored over 100 readings,

concerts and festivals including readings by Diane di Prima, Amiri Baraka,

Allen Ginsberg (over 1,500 people attended. the largest poetry reading in

Kentucky history), Rashida Ismaili, Eithne Strong, Lawrence Ferlinghetti,

Gregory Corso, Douglas Brinkley, Michael Waters, James Baker hall, Robert

Hunter, Sarah Gorham, Ray McNiese, Richard Cambridge, Jeffrey Skinner, Johnny

Payne, Maureen Morehead, Brian Foye, Michael Burkard, Michelle Boisseau, Jim

Wayne Miller, Ron Seitz, Mama Yaa, E. Ethelbert Miller and many others. Since

February 1992, they have worked sixty to eighty hours per week, with a host

of volunteers, to sponsor over 100 events per year (Moving Mystery Theatre)

including readings, talks, concerts, festivals and an international reading

series, in schools, universities, parks, galleries, clubs, theatres, and

country firehouses.

In October 1993, after two successful 24-hour non-stop music and poetry

INSOMNIACATHONS held at Twice Told Coffeehouse on Bardstown Road in

Louisville, Kentucky, the literary renaissance held INSOMNIACATHON '93, a

4-day non-stop music and poetry festival (the largest in Kentucky history)

featuring over 100 poets and more than 40 bands. The event was held at 3

different locations in Louisville: The Silo, Tewligan's and the main stage at

The Brewery's THUNDERDOME.

In 1994 the literary renaissance organized and presented INSOMNIACATHONS to

kick off New York University's (NYU hired Ron) "50 Year Celebration of The

Beat Generation" (48-hours non-stop, May 16-18, NYC), the annual "Lowell

Celebrate Kerouac Festival" (24-hours non-stop, September 21-22, Lowell, MA),

and INSOMNIACATHON '94 (4-days non-stop, September 29-October 2) in

Louisville Gardens and Twice Told Coffeehouse. White Fields Press, also

operated by Ron Whitehead and Kent Fielding, in support of the literary

renaissance and the global literary community, has published 150 titles in

its Published in Heaven Poster, Book, Chapbook, South Africa, Hunter S.

Thompson, and Audio Series. They have over 50 new titles scheduled for

production in 1996 pushing total titles published by year's end to 200. The

two organizations, White Fields Press and the literary renaissance, had been

kept alive by Ron, since the beginning, by the seat of his pants. By

bartering and bargaining with poets, writers, musicians, bands, and printers

he created ways to produce each new event and publish each new title. He

faced overwhelming odds and had near death, near failure, dark night of the

soul experiences several times in his struggle to keep the literary

renaissance and White Fields Press alive. In 1995 Gary Oleson and Waiting for

Godot helped sustain Ron's efforts. In December 1995 David Hatfield, Houston

Texas, longtime supporter and friendof Ron's literary endeavors, joined

forces with Ron. David is a poet, writer, & lover of literature by nature, a

businessperson by necessity. The new partnership is striving to expand the

mission of White Fields Press and the literary renaissance while maintaining

the original goals and vision. The intent is to support, in every way

possible, the global literary community. Kent Fielding, still active as

editor, has gone on to be NorthWest Manager by opening a WFP/tlr office in

Fairbanks, Alaska.

Knowledge, from the inception of Modernism (& thru Post-Modernism to The

Ocean of Consciousness), is reorganized, redefined through literature, art

and music. The genres are changing, the canons are exploding, as is culture.

The mythopoetics, the privileged sense of sight, of modern, contemporary,

avant-garde poets, musicians, artists, are examples of art forms of a

society, a culture, a civilization, a world, in which humanity lives, not

securely in cities nor innocently in the country, but on the apocalyptic,

simultaneous edge of a new realm of being and understanding. The mythopoet,

female and male, returns to the role of prophet-seer by creating myths that

resonate in the minds of readers, myths that speak with the authority of the

ancient myths, myths that are gifts from the shadow.

RANT for the literary renaissance!

UPCOMING EVENTS:

Release of Ron Whitehead's I WILL NOT BOW DOWN: Selected Poems 1990-95.

Available City Lights, Tower Books, order thru bookstores or direct from

Hozomeen Press (Mystic, NYC, Westerly), Box 174, Mystic, CT 06355 or

HozmnPress@aol.com

RANT for the literary renaissance & The Majic Bus present RANT eats New

Orleans 48-Hour Non-Stop Music & Poetry INSOMNIACATHON August 16-18 at The

Howlin Wolf Club & The New Orleans Contemporary Arts Center. For performance

& event info call Ron Whitehead at 502-568-4956 (RWHiteBone@aol.com) or

Douglas Brinkley at 504-286-6724.

Ron Whitehead Europe Reading Tour, September.

Hunter S. Thompson & Douglas Brinkley visit Louisville then travel on with

Ron Whitehead to RocknRoll Hall of Fame (Cleveland) for Hunter talk then on

to NYC for Modern Library Celebrity Bash Celebrating Modern Library Release

of 25th Anniversary Special Edition of Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas.

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Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 11:32:58 +1100

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From: Duncan Gray <duncang@ENTO.CSIRO.AU>

Subject: Re: Cassady-Kerouac

Regarding the term Keroassady I think Neal would've noticed the word acid in

the name, giving him more reason to use it at a Grateful Dead concert. For

a description of one of his performances check out issue number 6 of Spit in

the Ocean.

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Duncan Gray

Stored Grain Research Laboratory

CSIRO Division of Entomology, GPO Box 1700, Canberra ACT 2601

Ph. (06) 246 4178 Fax (06) 246 4202

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Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 00:06:41 -0700

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From: Jonathan Kratter <jonkrat@NUEVA.PVT.K12.CA.US>

Subject: Beat writing...

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Hi again..

I had a really groovy experience tonight..I just sat down, and I had so

much to think about, and so much running through my mind, so I just

pulled up MSWord and started to type and type and type and not bother to

go back and fix little things unless I wanted to and just run on and run

on. It was just a complete outpouring of my mind onto paper, like some

of Neal's letters, so packed and so full of stuff...wow! It was quite an

experience to actually do, to let it just happen and flow...has anyone

else had this similiar experience? Where they just sat down and WROTE?

I'd be interested in discussing this further...

jonathan

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Jonathan Kratter

jonkrat@nueva.pvt.k12.ca.us

"I can't use contractions..."

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Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 00:04:11 -0700

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From: Jonathan Kratter <jonkrat@NUEVA.PVT.K12.CA.US>

Subject: Re: Dr. Leary's Chaos and Cyber Culture

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In regards to Dr. Leary's classification of persons, I don't think it

fits. I don't think you can classify generations and groups like you

would classify phylum and species---it just doesn't work. There aren't

clearly defined lines, they're blurred together, and if one begins to

classify oneself one becomes the stereotype classification, because

that's what his classification was, over-stereotyping. For instance, a

friend of mine is called a hippie all the time because she wears long,

flowy, "hippie-like" garments and wears Birkenstocks. Unfortunately,

nothing could be further from the truth-- she is as obnoxious a punk as

Sid Vicious and Johnny Rotten combined-- but she thinks she is a hippie

because that's what she has been stereotyped as. Even though she is

really rotten, obnoxious, and an exhibitionist brat. But anyways, back

to my point-- Dr. Leary's classification over-classified people. If he

had not given dates, drugs, and various physical objects and had instead

identified just identified commmon values and feelings about things, that

would be much different, because then it would represent the group. To

be Beat was to feel something, to feel that beat BUG that gets under you

skin and makes you just wanna write, write, write. I get that bug,

sometimes, and I can't stop writing. That's a Beat characteristic, I

think. Promoting universal love and universal acceptance seems to be a

Hippie characteristic, but I don't know enough about either to say for

total certainty. And Leary's garbage about "Cyberpunks" is just that,

garbage. Cyberpunk is a term overused by the sluttish media in reference

to people who're think they're counter-culture but are really just trendy

when they use the internet. Arghh...I am getting really fed up with all

this "cyber-culture" crap, you know. I saw this book, "How to Mutate and

Take Over the World" by R.U. Sirius and St. Jude, but it's not a book,

see, it's an exploded post novel, or basically just a collection of

garbage writing. I opened it and I didn't really like what I read,

because it garbage. I guess they thought maybe it was kinda Beat to

write without thinking but it wasn't spontaneous prose, because

spontaneous prose has a train of thought that you can follow, and I don't

think this book did. Now, I haven't read it yet, but I am going to try

and read it and see if my fears are true. Anyways, all this

cyber-garbage, how the media makes everything out to be so sensational

and interesting and the World Wide Web is this and the WWW is that and

all this just garbage that isn't true and how the interent is or isn't

censored and just a lot of stuff that is all nonsense in someways. Yeah,

the internet explosion is good, in some ways, but a lot of the internet

is empty. For instance, mailing lists are really excellent, instant

communication that's easy and fast...but some of the stuff you see on the

Web is such nonsense you just want to puke, and cyber this and cyber that

and ERGGHH>..

oh well..

jonathan

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Jonathan Kratter

jonkrat@nueva.pvt.k12.ca.us

"I can't use contractions..."

On Sun, 5 May 1996, CANAPP wrote:

> Hi, all:

> I just wanted to thank Delores Neese for sharing Dr. Leary's thoughts with

> all of us on our current culture. Up until I read that, I'd always

> considered myself a "hippie", considering I'm too young to have been a

> Beat. But, after reading the descriptions, I find I am a Beat. It's the

> only catgory that really fits me. <g>. Anyway, just wanted to thank her

> again for sharing that, it's really priceless.

> Regarding Dr. Leary, I guess everyone knows he is dying and plans to "take

> himself out, on his own terms", when the pain from his cancer becomes too

> unbearable. There are rumors all over the Net that he's going to do it

> on-line and videotape the whole thing. Not sure how I feel about that.