>along to Sinatra record.

>c. Kerouac reads from Dr Sax with Sinatra record playing in background.

>(I do not know the length of time of each segment; I never bothered to time

>them)

>

>I hope this information is helpful -

>

>Jeffrey Weinberg

>Water Row Books

>

>

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Date:         Fri, 9 Aug 1996 09:40:07 EDT

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From:         Bill Gargan <WXGBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Subject:      huncke

 

I was sorry to learn of Huncke's death yesterday.  Earlier posts have

nicely summed up his contribution to Beat literature.  I had the good

fortune to do an interview with him for the Literary Denim several years

ago.  He was, as today's New York Times obituary points out, gracious,

well-mannered, and a hell of a good story teller.  I spoke briefly with

him in Lowell last October where he gave a wonderful reading at the

Lowell Celebrates Kerouac Conference.  He will certainly be missed.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Aug 1996 12:16:18 -0400

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From:         Howard Park <Hpark4@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: huncke

 

Huncke's passing really is symbolic of the gradual, now almost total death of

a certain type of rough and tumble American culture that once flourished in

Times Square in NY, many places in Chicago, 3rd and Howard in SF, Market St.

in St. Louis and the Denver of Neil Cassidy's time...to name a few places in

time.  I don't romanticize the world of Herbert Huncke.  That would be a

mistake.  It was often a cruel and seemingly hopeless world...a world where

freedom abounded but people often paid a pretty terrible price for it.  It's

not my world to go on week long benders, to have the monkey of herion on your

back or even pushing the limits of sexual expermentation.  But, I can't help

feeling that we have lost something important. I'll miss Herbert Huncke.

 Jerry Garcia too.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Aug 1996 13:22:32 -0400

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From:         Sean McDonnell <smcdonne@DOLPHIN.UPENN.EDU>

Subject:      Re: huncke

In-Reply-To:  <960809121617_452617710@emout10.mail.aol.com> from "Howard Park"

              at Aug 9, 96 12:16:18 pm

 

>  Jerry Garcia too.

 

STERLING MORRISON too!

 

August is a cruel month!!!

 

 

s

 

 

 

--

"Everything depends.

 Nothing is always.

 Everything is sometimes

 Nothing is everything."

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Date:         Fri, 9 Aug 1996 13:47:41 -0400

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From:         Ted Harms <tmharms@LIBRARY.UWATERLOO.CA>

Subject:      Huncke's Death

 

If there's a funeral service, I wonder who'd all show up?

 

Do the remaining Beats even get along?  I really can't see Gins and

Burroughs having much to say to each other anymore...

 

 

Ted Harms                    Library, Univ. of Waterloo

tmharms@library.uwaterloo.ca         519.888.4567 x3761

"I got it all when I gave it back."   N. Young

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Date:         Fri, 9 Aug 1996 18:42:03 -0700

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From:         James Stauffer <stauffer@PACBELL.NET>

Subject:      Kerouac article

 

I was away for awhile so don't know if there was any discussion in this

group of Ralph Lombreglia's review of Ann Charters "Portable Kerouac"

and "Selected Letters" in the August "Atlantic Monthly" Thoughtful

analysis of Jack and his impact by a declared non-fan.  Can be read at

http://www.theAtlantic.com/atlantic/issues/96aug/jackk.htm

 

In addition to some really insightful analysis of Jack the man,

Lombreglia writes rather interestingly on a topic we probably beat to

death last spring--the influence of booze and drugs on Jack's writing.

"Many writers deny that they have ever written a single word in any

condition other than stone-cold sobreity.  At least some of them are

lying.  Kerouac always admitted that he wrote while he was high.

"Selected Letters" confirms that he rarely wrote fiction except under

the influence of one substance or another--Benzedrine, marijuana, or

alcohol in his early years, mostly alcohol later on.  For Kerouac,

literal intoxication provided both the physical rush that propelled him

through his long writing sessions and the freedom from his censorious

self--his internalization of his clannish, Old World family and

particularly of his mother, the ever-present 'Memere'."

 

 

Jim Stauffer

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Date:         Fri, 9 Aug 1996 22:32:31 -0400

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From:         Jeffrey Weinberg <Waterrow@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Kerouac article

 

Ralph L. a non-fan of Jack Kerouac?

Then he had us all fooled - After all, he was the co-director and co-producer

of the Viking Penguin CD-Rom, Jack Kerouac Romnibus. While he was doing

research and gathering materials for the CD-Rom, he pretended as if he was a

big fan of Jack's -

You mean he did the project just for the money?

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Date:         Sat, 10 Aug 1996 09:31:49 -0400

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From:         Phil Chaput <Philzi@TIAC.NET>

Subject:      latest schedule Insomniacathon 96

 

RANT for the renaissance. The Eisenhower Center for American Studies,

The Majic Bus at University of New Orleans, and TRIBE present Voices

Without Restraint 48-Hour Non-Stop Music & Poetry INSOMNIACATHON 1996

at The New Orleans Contemporary Arts Center, The Mermaid Lounge, &

The Howlin Wolf Club August 16-18

 

PERFORMANCE Schedule (4th Draft)

 

Friday August 16

Contemporary Arts Center, 10AM to 10:30PM

900 Camp Street (Admission: Free)

 

10-10:30AM Univ of New Orleans Jazz Ensemble

 

10:30-10:45 Welcome & introduction by historian, author of THE MAJIC

BUS: An American Odyssey and INSOMNIACATHON host, DOUGLAS BRINKLEY

 

10:45-11:30 Poet E. ETHELBERT MILLER, director of Howard University's

African American Resource Center, reads with poets from YA/YA (Young

Artists/Young Aspirations)

 

11:30-1:30 RAMBLIN' JACK ELLIOTT, Grammy winning folk artist performs

and discusses his tours with Woody Guthrie and Bob Dylan.

Performance and discussion of jazz, folk, & world music with composer

and poet DAVID AMRAM

 

1:30-2:30PM Discussion (Performance) of the music and poetry of the

Beats with ED SANDERS, lead singer for The Fugs and author of TALES OF

BEATNIK GLORY

 

2:30-3:30 Local Poetry Hour with Ralph Adamo, Dennis Formento, Leonard

Earl Johnson, Maxine Cassin, and Alex Rawls

 

3:30-5PM AMIRI BARAKA, poet and author of BLUES PEOPLE, & ROBERT PALMER,

author of DEEP BLUES, discuss the cultural significance of The Blues.

 

5-7PM TRIBE Magazine's Dangerous Variety Show (Kim Fowley M.C.)(16mm.

films courtesy of Zeitgeist Theater Experiments): CHRIS WADDINGTON,

POPPY Z. BRITE, RENE BROUSSARD, CHRIS ROSE, KALAMU YA SALAAM,  JOHN

COLLINS & HIS PROMETHEAN TROUPE,  GODIVA, FAST FOOD, BONE ALLEY, CHRIS

CHAMPAGNE, LEE GRUE

 

7-8PM ROBERT CREELEY discusses The Black Mountain School of Poetry

 

8-9PM JOHN SINCLAIR & THE BLUES SCHOLARS perform their unique brand of

blues/jazz infused poetry

 

9-10:30 Poetry reading: E. ETHELBERT MILLER, ROBERT CREELEY,

& AMIRI BARAKA

 

The Mermaid Lounge                        The Howlin' Wolf,

1100 Constance Street,                    828 South Peters Street

10:30PM to 10AM                           10:30PM to 2AM

504-524-4747                              504-523-2551

(no cover)                                ($5 cover)

 

10:30-11:30PM THE WILD MAGNOLIAS          10:30-2 STORYVILLE (Texas

(Native American)                          Blues)

 

11:30-2 ALL THAT (Brass Funk Rap

NoWayToReallyDescribeNewOrleansInterRacialSoundsBand)

 

2-3:30AM COMPOST Peformers & SUSI K (Poets, Performers, Musicians from

NY, MA, LA)

 

3:30-4AM GOLDIELOX & FRIENDS (hiphop)

 

4-4:30 IMPALA SUPER (scruff punk)

 

4:30-5AM NEMO (poetry & sounds)

 

5-6AM poets: BRUCE BEROFF(KY), LORI TURNER(KY), MATTHEW OSBORN(KY),

REBEKAH REEVES(KY), MICHELLE FOWLER(KY), ANDREA RONEY(KY)

 

6-7AM poets: GUI STUART(KY), AMANDA HAMMONS(KY), LUKE BUCKMAN(KY), KEVIN

COOMBS(KY), DEBI COOMBS(KY), SETH COHEN(KY)

 

7-8AM poets: HEATHER KOLF(KY), J.B. WILSON(KY), REVERAND JAYNE

PRAXIS(KY), DEIRDRE SKAGGS(KY), JOHN HAGAN(KY), JEFF ECKMANN(KY)

 

8-9AM poets: WILL KOTHEIMER(KY), DANNY O'BRYAN(KY), ANNIE

McCLANAHAN(KY), RICH MARTIN(CT), MATT KOHN(NY), JORDAN GREEN(KY),

MICHAEL LEONARD(NY), CHRIS KUBICEK(FL), KENT FIELDING(AK), ERIK

LaPRADE(NY)

 

Saturday, August 17

Contemporary Arts Center

900 Camp Street, 10AM to 10:30PM

(admission free)

 

10-11AM Composer DAVID AMRAM discusses jazz poetry; performance by the

UNO Jazz Ensemble

 

11-12:30 Discussion and booksigning with GEORGE McGOVERN, 1972

Democratic Presidential Nominee and author of TERRY: MY DAUGHTER'S LIFE

AND DEATH STRUGGLE WITH ALCOHOLISM

 

12:30-1:30PM JAY McINERNEY, author of BRIGHT LIGHTS, BIG CITY discusses

contemporary literature and reads from his new book, THE LAST OF THE

SAVAGES

 

1:30-2PM Discussion on the Legacy of The Beats (& Performance) with

INSOMNIACATHON host RON WHITEHEAD, poet, publisher, & author of

I WILL NOT BOW DOWN

 

2-3PM Poetry & music by HERSCH SILVERMAN & CHANNEL NINE;

& LOUIS BICKETT and THE CULTURAL MUDDING RITUAL

 

3-4:30PM Premiere of THE CONEY ISLAND OF LAWRENCE FERLINGHETTI

documentary and discussion with filmmaker CHRIS FELVER

 

4:30-4:45 W. LORAN SMITH, poet, author of THE BOY WHO BECAME A BOOK

 

4:45-5:15 SUSI WOOD (folk, mountain)

 

5:15-5:30 FRANK MESSINA, poet, author of SONG FOR THE POET

 

5:30-6:30 TRIBE's Dangerous Variety Show (NICOLE BLACKMAN M.C.):

SPECIAL AGENT VICTOR IMPOSSIBLE'S CRUCHON de LAIT featuring:

THE RAMPARTS with MAD MARCUS, DELVIC and THE DELVIC RANCHEROS, THE

BASTARD SONS OF JOHN HENRY, PAN AMERICAN ALL-STARS, NINTH WARD FREAK

PARADE, TALL PAUL, THE NWWF - THE NINTH WARD WRESTLING FEDERATION

 

6:30-7PM Poetry readings by WILLIE SMITH and JIM McCRARY

 

7-7:30PM TOM PIAZZA reads from his new book, BLUES AND TROUBLE

 

7:30-8:30PM RICHARD HELL, founder of the seminal New York punk band

RICHARD HELL and THE VOIDOIDS, discusses his new book, GO NOW

 

8:30-10:30PM Readings by ANDREI CODRESCU, poet, social commentator, and

author of THE BLOOD COUNTESS

& JOHN RECHY, author of the 1963 bestseller CITY OF NIGHT  and his

latest book OUR LADY OF BABYLON

 

The Howlin' Wolf

828 South Peters Street, 10:30PM to 10AM

($5 cover) 504-524-4747

 

10:30-11:30 CASEY CYR, RON WHITEHEAD, FRANK MESSINA, HERSCH SILVERMAN,

DAVID AMRAM, & FRIENDS

 

11:30-2 THE IGUANAS

 

12:30-1 TRIBE presents NICOLE BLACKMAN (NYC poetry diva performs during

THE IGUANAS' timeout)

 

2-2:10 WENDY-CHARLY LEMMON(spokenwordperformer)

 

2:10-3AM ELEVEN ELEVEN (newwavepunk)

 

3-4AM BLACK PIG LIBERATION FRONT (multimediabandoffutureherenow)

& GRAND PASSION (newwavepunk)

 

4-8AM OPEN MIC/OPEN STAGE (signups start round midnight)

 

8-9:30AM poetry: COTTON SEILER (KA), ALBERT KAUSCH (MA), KIRSTIN OGDEN

(AK), GENE SIMMONS (AK), AURORA LEE (LA), ANDY DI MICHELE (LA),

MICKEY HESS (KY)

 

9:30-10AM HERSCH SILVERMAN & CHANNEL NINE

plus LOUIS BICKETT & THE CULTURAL MUDDING RITUAL

 

INSOMNIACATHON 1996 produced by RON WHITEHEAD for DOUGLAS BRINKLEY

 

Special Thanks to LEE LEVERT for diligently directing the New Orleans

Event Headquarters from The Eisenhower Center. This event wouldn't have

happened without her hard work. Plus Thanks to Molly Wright, the entire

Eisenhower Center staff, plus the 25 students/poets who traveled &

worked with Ron Whitehead, Kent Fielding, & the literary renaissance to

help produce INSOMNIACATHON 1996. Also thanks to Rand Ragusa, Alex

Beard, Kevin Lezak, George "Hutch" Hutchinson, Peter Orr, John

Fitzgerald, & the entire TRIBE staff for helping make this event happen.

 

Thanks also go to Metropolitan College at University of New Orleans, The

Louisiana Endowment for The Humanities, Tennessee Williams Festival,

Windsor Court Hotel, Hilton Riverside Hotel, Le pavillon Hotel, Le

Meridien Hotel, Hampton Inn, Hotel Inter-Continental, EXQUISITE CORPSE

Magazine, The New Orleans Contemporary Arts Center, The Mermaid Lounge,

The Howlin Wolf Club, The New Orleans Poetry Forum, The City of New

Orleans.

 

Event Sponsors: The Eisenhower Center for American Studies, The Majic

Bus at The University of New Orleans, the literary renaissance,

White Fields Press, & TRIBE Magazine.

 

 

2:50-

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Date:         Sat, 10 Aug 1996 20:56:25 -0400

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From:         Phil Chaput <Philzi@TIAC.NET>

Subject:      Hunke funeral arraignments??????????

 

If anyone knows the funeral details could you please post them to the list.

There was nothing about that in the New York Times only an article about

Hunke's life. Maybe it will be a private service. Thanks Phil

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Date:         Sun, 11 Aug 1996 19:17:23 -0700

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From:         James Stauffer <stauffer@PACBELL.NET>

Subject:      Re: Kerouac article

 

Jeffrey Weinberg wrote:

>

> Ralph L. a non-fan of Jack Kerouac?

>This is his own description, a perhaps innaccurate.  He describes

himself as not a K. "fanatic" in acknowledging his participation in the

CD ROM project in which Charters was involved.  Perhaps he sees himself

as somewhat more objective than nuts like those of us who subscribe to

this list.

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Date:         Sun, 11 Aug 1996 22:37:41 -0400

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From:         Scott Greenberg <SGreenb622@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Kerouac story

 

In one of Kerouac's letters he mentions a 10,000-word short story he'd just

finished called "cityCityCITY."  Does anyone know if it was ever published?

 Was it published with the same title?  Where can I get it?

 

-Scott G.

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Date:         Sun, 11 Aug 1996 23:31:55 -0400

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From:         Jeffrey Weinberg <Waterrow@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Kerouac story

 

Scott and others:

 

cityCityCITY, Kerouac's science fiction vision of the future, has been added

to the revised edition of Good Blonde & Others, Edited by Don Allen, Grey Fox

Press, 1994.

 

cityCityCITY was first published as "The Electrocution," in the men's mag,

NUGGET, August 1959; reprinted as CITYCitycity in The Moderns, edited by

Leroi Jones, Corinth Books, 1963.

 

We have Good Blonde & Others in stock. 217 pgs. Paper ed.

Contact me for further information.

 

Hope this information proves helpful -

 

Jeffrey Weinberg

Water Row Books

PO Box 438

Sudbury MA 01776

Tel 508-485-8515

Fax 508-229-0885

EMail Waterrow@aol.com

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Date:         Mon, 12 Aug 1996 09:08:57 -0400

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From:         William Miller <KenWNC@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Hunke funeral arraignments??????????

 

Phil wrote:

 

*****If anyone knows the funeral details could you please post them to the

list.

There was nothing about that in the New York Times only an article about

Hunke's life. Maybe it will be a private service. Thanks Phil*****

 

I'm sure that Mr. Huncke was "arraigned" many times in his life, but let's

hope that he won't be arraigned at his own funeral.

 

If that was a slip, it was a good one.  If that was an attempt to poke a

little fun, it was a good one too.

 

RIP Herbert Huncke.

 

William Miller

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Date:         Mon, 12 Aug 1996 10:33:12 -0400

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From:         "Justin Stone @Bourque96 I hope I got it right? Nice pages!"

              <Bourque96@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Get me off this list

 

Please get me off this list I can't stand it anymore

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Date:         Mon, 12 Aug 1996 15:16:30 -0400

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From:         Phil Chaput <Philzi@TIAC.NET>

Subject:      Re: Hunke funeral arraignments??????????

 

At 09:08 AM 8/12/96 -0400, you wrote:

>Phil wrote:

>

>*****If anyone knows the funeral details could you please post them to the

>list.

>There was nothing about that in the New York Times only an article about

>Hunke's life. Maybe it will be a private service. Thanks Phil*****

>

>I'm sure that Mr. Huncke was "arraigned" many times in his life, but let's

>hope that he won't be arraigned at his own funeral.

>

>If that was a slip, it was a good one.  If that was an attempt to poke a

>little fun, it was a good one too.

>

>RIP Herbert Huncke.

>

>William Miller

>

>Sorry it was an error do to the wonders of spell check I spelled

arrangements without the e and the spell check substituted arraignments and

I didn't even notice it. I could never spell.Sorry. Has anyone heard

anything about his funeral SERVICE? Phil

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Date:         Mon, 12 Aug 1996 16:58:29 -0400

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From:         Sean McDonnell <smcdonne@DOLPHIN.UPENN.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Get me off this list

In-Reply-To:  <960812094805_454378663@emout16.mail.aol.com> from "Bourque96 I

              hope I got it right? Nice pages!" at Aug 12, 96 10:33:12 am

 

>

> Please get me off this list I can't stand it anymore

>

 

which part can't you stand?

 

 

--

"Everything depends.

 Nothing is always.

 Everything is sometimes

 Nothing is everything."

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Date:         Mon, 12 Aug 1996 17:06:22 -0400

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From:         Neil Hennessy <nhenness@UWATERLOO.CA>

Subject:      Beat TV Special

 

Found this on rec.music.dylan everyone's favourite Bob Dylan forum:

 

rec.music.dylan #61537 (20 + 122  more)                                   (1)

Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

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From: Margaret Andreas <U0A75@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU>

[1] Beats on TV

Lines: 13

 

No idea if this has Bob-content or not,

but our local Public Broadcasting System has

this show scheduled for Sunday night,

August 25, at 9:30  pm.

(That's Channel 13 in Pittsburgh)

 

_THE BEAT GENERATION_: An American Dream

 

"Steve Allen hosts this look at group of writers

 who questioned America's post-war values.

 Interviews include Jack Kerouac, Allen Ginsberg,

 Le Roi Jones, William

Burroughs."

 

                      Macarina (er, sorry)

MARGUERITA

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Date:         Mon, 12 Aug 1996 17:48:17 EST

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From:         "I'M OFF TO THE MOON FOR A CUP OF SAKE." <breithau@KENYON.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Herbert Huncke

 

I met Huncke a few times in Allen's kitchen while I worked on cataloging AGs

tapes and videos for Columbia. Once he visited while I was woringk on the tapes

and we both had very bad colds. I felt sorry for myself, feeling like I might

flop over and die from this strain of NYC flu. But Huncke was still going on

strong. He looked and sounded awful but kept saying, "Ah, I'm surivor, it'll

take more than this to kill me off! I looked at him, old and battered (and this

was ten years ago), and I said to myself, 'this man IS a survivor!

 

The times I met huncke alawys presented him as a gnerous, kind and polite

 character with a dry sense of humor. Since that early meeting, when I feel low

I can hear Hunckes voice in my ear..."I'm a survivor, ain't you?

 

Though needless to say, this ancient Junky was indeed "Guilty of Everything."

 

 

I hope is surving somewhere good righgt now, perhaps chewing mushrooms with

Leary

 

Sorry to herar the news...

 

Dave B. in Gambier, Ohio

 

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Date:         Mon, 12 Aug 1996 18:00:22 EST

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From:         "I'M OFF TO THE MOON FOR A CUP OF SAKE." <breithau@KENYON.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Dr. Sax speaks

 

I have a dub of that Kerouac recording in which he sings with a Frank Sinatra

record in the background. Makes for a very haunting piece. I think this one had

something to do with Jerry Nuemen. Not the best quality but good enough. If you

want to contact me and send me a blank tape I will dub one for anyone who asks.

(Of course money will not change hands and the tapes must be destroyed beneath

a full moon to satisfy the copywrite club.)

 

Let me know! Thanks,

 

Dave B.

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Date:         Mon, 12 Aug 1996 19:34:12 -0700

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From:         "V.J. Eaton" <vj@PRIMENET.COM>

Subject:      Gargan on Huncke/Denim

 

BG says:

 

 > I had the good fortune to do an interview with him for the Literary Denim

several years

>ago.  . . . . .

>

 

Don't know, Bill,  if I ever did indicate what a fine job you did  getting

Huncke's personality out. --Best piece in that little book (1984), an

American classic. Thx. . . .

 

--VJ Eaton,  the denim

 

 

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  vj@primenet.com   |       If you're not living on the edge . . . .

  Tempe, AZ            |                 . . . You're taking up too much room.

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Date:         Tue, 13 Aug 1996 08:59:35 -0400

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From:         William Miller <KenWNC@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Tribe

 

Hello Folks.

 

William Miller here.

 

I just wanted you all to know about a magazine I found the other day called

"Tribe".  The focus is, of all things, "New Orleans style-culture-ideas".  I

have the August issue in front of me.

 

Burroughs is on the cover.

 

There is an interview with Lawrence Ferlinghetti inside.

 

Also an interview with William Burroughs.

 

There is a "Beat for Dummies" family tree / flowchart inside.

 

A couple of other beat-related articles inside, relating to the

Insomniacathon, or whatever that thing is called.

 

The magazine generally looks (judging by the non-beat lit material) pretty

tacky, but this is a must (I think) -- A new Orleans regional rag with a

focus on this Beat Event.....

 

If you can't get _Tribe_ where you are, but you'd like a copy, just e-mail me

directly.

 

Regards,

 

William Miller

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Date:         Tue, 13 Aug 1996 06:31:54 -0700

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Levi Asher <brooklyn@NETCOM.COM>

Subject:      Re: Tribe

In-Reply-To:  <960813085935_455248863@emout13.mail.aol.com> from "William

              Miller" at Aug 13, 96 08:59:35 am

 

> If you can't get _Tribe_ where you are, but you'd like a copy, just e-mail me

> directly.

 

I want one -- but what's your email address?  (For some reason

return addresses never show up for me on this list, though they

do on others.)

 

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

                   Levi Asher = brooklyn@netcom.com

 

           Literary Kicks: http://www.charm.net/~brooklyn/

                    (the beat literature web site)

 

         Queensboro Ballads: http://www.levity.com/brooklyn/

                     (my fantasy folk-rock album)

 

                         *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

 

                        "don't   push       me

                         cause     I'm   close

                         to      the      edge"

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Date:         Wed, 14 Aug 1996 00:07:06 -0400

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Patrick G Blaine <pgbst4+@PITT.EDU>

Subject:      unsubscribe

In-Reply-To:  <960813085935_455248863@emout13.mail.aol.com>

 

sorry to do it this way, but i'm pressed for time and have an inbox w/

about 1000 messages.  i enjoyed the blist when i had time to read it, and

found quite a few things to explore in my spare time.  i hope to rejoin

the list at my new school (uiowa).  thanks to everyone for a most

enlightening six months.

 

pAt blaine

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Date:         Wed, 14 Aug 1996 16:44:46 +1000

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From:         ADRIAN CHARLES BLACKBURN <q6rych66@DEAKIN.EDU.AU>

Subject:      Tribe Subscribe; On the road

Comments: To: William Miller <KenWNC@AOL.COM>, brooklyn@netcom.com

In-Reply-To:  <199608131331.GAA14847@netcom.netcom.com>

 

I'm not sure where this message will end up, apologies if everyone gets

this.

William Miller - Ditto the tribe email address request.

To Levi Asher I just read your on the road audition piece, a cack, and I

didn't even know it was in the works. How has the project progressed, ie

how long ago was the audition?; and has Coppola done aught about it since?

Also has anyone seen the On the road play done a couple of years ago? It

was performed in Melbourne and England (I think). I saw it at St Martins

with a hootin crowd.

Yrs, Aab Black q6rych66@deakin.edu.au

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Date:         Wed, 14 Aug 1996 08:14:09 -0400

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From:         William Morgan <Ferlingh2@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Huncke's Death

 

Ginsberg and Burroughs are still the best of friends, Allen has just spent a

week with him in Kansas.  Burroughs isn't in good enough health to travel to

a memorial service in New York, though.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Aug 1996 08:21:26 -0400

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From:         William Morgan <Ferlingh2@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Tribe

 

Bill Morgan here:

 

Could you send me the address on Tribe?  I'd like to get a copy because of

the Ferlinghetti interview for my continuing bibliography.

 

Thanks,

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Date:         Wed, 14 Aug 1996 14:17:22 +0100

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From:         "m.d.fascione" <m.d.fascione@CITY.AC.UK>

Subject:      Burrough's health

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 08:14:09 -0400

From: William Morgan <Ferlingh2@AOL.COM>

To: Multiple recipients of list BEAT-L <BEAT-L@CUNYVM>

Subject: Re: Huncke's Death

 

Ginsberg and Burroughs are still the best of friends, Allen has just spent a

week with him in Kansas.  Burroughs isn't in good enough health to travel to

a memorial service in New York, though.

 

William et al

 

So what's the score with Burrough's health? How's he doing? Anyone know?

 

Daniel

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Date:         Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:09:07 +0000

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From:         "John W. Hasbrouck" <jhasbro@TEZCAT.COM>

Subject:      Kinsey/Beats

 

Dear gang,

 

While channel-surfing last night I happened upon A&E's Biography of Dr.

Alfred Kinsey, the great sex researcher. I thought to myself, "Gee, I

wonder if..." and YES! Before the his picture even appeared on the

screen I recognized THAT VOICE! None other than the late Mr. HERBERT

HUNCKE himself relating the anecdote of his meeting and subsequent

interview with Dr. Kinsey in the late 1940s. He dropped a few names of

people to whom he introduced Dr. Kinsey for the purposes of interviews,

among whom was WILLIAM S. BURROUGHS whose noble talking head thence

appeared on my television screen, wryly reminiscing about the good

doctor.

 

I thought this was good, Beat TV (BTV?). I welcomed the appearance of

Huncke's wiry, smoking, smirking person on cable TV so soon after his

demise. Burroughs was in good form, wearing his lapel pin from the

Academy of Arts and Letters, holding back a smile.

 

John Hasbrouck

Chicago

 

P.S. To anyone interested in the life and work of Dr. Kinsey I

enthusiastically recommend "Dr. Kinsey and the Institute for Sex

Research" by Wardell Pomeroy. Written by one of Kinsey's co-authors of

"Sexual Behavior in the Human Male", this book is an insider's account

of the research, interviewing techniques, data analysis, writing,

publishing and subsequent controversy of that historic volume.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Aug 1996 15:57:16 GMT

Reply-To:     i12bent@hum.auc.dk

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         "B. Sorensen" <i12bent@HUM.AUC.DK>

Subject:      Dean Moriarty song lyrics

 

The saga of the Beats in modern music continues. Check out a great song by

folk singer songwriter Eric Taylor, found on his self-titled 1995 CD:

 

Dean Moriarty

 

Dean Moriarty don't live here no more

He's off in California, works in a liquor store

Where it's two packs of cigarettes and one half a pint

And he's back to his room on the Mexican side

 

Says he's through with the railroad freight-car line

The fight between the moon and the lantern light

Says I'm goin' cross country but I might come back

But I'm stickin' to the highway, to hell with the tracks

 

Chorus:

I can't take what you may give me

I've always wanted more

My Mercury hummin' road may put me

To sleep outside your door

 

I got a brand new baby, she's got a new pair of shoes

He drivin' somebody's car but he don't know whose

Been up all night but it don't show

Won twenty-five dollars in the hammer throw

 

Three-fingered guitar and a saxophone bites

Jack's been reading her poetry, he's been spillin' her wine

Her hair's so pretty, she smells like Juicy Fruit gum

Her old man's the black guy on the congo drums

 

Chorus

 

Maybe he should call her, he just ain't got the dough

Maybe walk on outside and check the radio

It's playin' her song but it just ain't his

Man like him's got no business with the wife and the kids

 

It's the last of the red wine from a night full of thrill

It's a coast to the bottom of a Frisco hill

How can a body begrudge another body a ride?

I didn't steal your car, man, I just borrowed it a while

 

Chorus

 

(Copyright Eric Taylor, 1995. Reprinted without permission)

 

Incidentally, Taylor seems to be a literary kind of guy. Another song

featured on the CD is titled "Hemingway's Shotgun"...

 

Regards,

 

bs

 

Department of Languages and Intercultural Studies

Aalborg University, Denmark

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Date:         Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:52:23 EDT

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Bill Gargan <WXGBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Subject:      Re: Kinsey/Beats

In-Reply-To:  Message of Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:09:07 +0000 from

              <jhasbro@TEZCAT.COM>

 

On Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:09:07 +0000 John W. Hasbrouck said:

>Dear gang,

>

>While channel-surfing last night I happened upon A&E's Biography of Dr.

>Alfred Kinsey, the great sex researcher. I thought to myself, "Gee, I

>wonder if..." and YES! Before the his picture even appeared on the

>screen I recognized THAT VOICE! None other than the late Mr. HERBERT

>HUNCKE himself relating the anecdote of his meeting and subsequent

>interview with Dr. Kinsey in the late 1940s. He dropped a few names of

>people to whom he introduced Dr. Kinsey for the purposes of interviews,

>among whom was WILLIAM S. BURROUGHS whose noble talking head thence

>appeared on my television screen, wryly reminiscing about the good

>doctor.

>

>I thought this was good, Beat TV (BTV?). I welcomed the appearance of

>Huncke's wiry, smoking, smirking person on cable TV so soon after his

>demise. Burroughs was in good form, wearing his lapel pin from the

>Academy of Arts and Letters, holding back a smile.

>

>John Hasbrouck

>Chicago

>

>P.S. To anyone interested in the life and work of Dr. Kinsey I

>enthusiastically recommend "Dr. Kinsey and the Institute for Sex

>Research" by Wardell Pomeroy. Written by one of Kinsey's co-authors of

>"Sexual Behavior in the Human Male", this book is an insider's account

>of the research, interviewing techniques, data analysis, writing,

>publishing and subsequent controversy of that historic volume.

 

I second John's recommendation.  It's an informative and readable volume.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Aug 1996 12:08:04 EDT

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Bill Gargan <WXGBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Subject:      Bath

 

Since there was so much interest in Tribe, I thought I'd let you all

know about Bath, a free journal distributed in New York City.  Outside

NYC, subs are $24 a year or $4 an issue.  The August 1996 issue features

a 4 page article(including 2 pages of photos) on "A Week in Kerouac's

Lowell 1977"  by Jimmy Wong.  Wong ishard on Lowell and I think he's off

base.  He describes Lowell as an unfriendly place and complains about

the lack of hotels in the downtown area. My friend Mike McLean and I

visited Lowell several years earlier (like Wong by Greyhound) and found

a hotel right in downtown Lowell on Bridge Street--I think it was called

the Surf Hotel.   It wasn't fancy but it was convenient and inexpensive

at the time.  We found the people in Lowell friendly and generally

helpful, although many knew nothing of Kerouac back in 1973 or 1974.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Aug 1996 10:40:01 -0400

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From:         Rodgers <Rodgers@TRACOR-A4.CCMGATE.TRACOR.COM>

Subject:      Hunke et al

 

     It really is amazing that any of these guys are around at all now much

     less in their eighties.

 

     I read Hunke's contribution to The Portable Beat Reader and wasn't

     knocked out by his writing.  It was pretty much reportage, yet I could

     sense that he was trying to communicate some message or moral in the

     writing.  The moral was too esoteric for most, or perhaps you had to

     be there to appreciate it, or maybe I need to read some more of his

     stuff.

 

     He certainly was seminal to the Beats just by association with

     Burroughs, Kerouac and Ginsberg.  He was truly a historical figure

     among the Beat originators.

 

     Can you think of a more romanticized

     reallifetimessquarenewyorkjunkiehipster?

 

 

     Whoever he was, he seemed to be the real deal.

 

       Ron

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Date:         Wed, 14 Aug 1996 18:49:19 -0400

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Phil Chaput <Philzi@TIAC.NET>

Subject:      Re: Bath

 

At 12:08 PM 8/14/96 EDT, you wrote:

>Since there was so much interest in Tribe, I thought I'd let you all

>know about Bath, a free journal distributed in New York City.  Outside

>NYC, subs are $24 a year or $4 an issue.  The August 1996 issue features

>a 4 page article(including 2 pages of photos) on "A Week in Kerouac's

>Lowell 1977"  by Jimmy Wong.  Wong ishard on Lowell and I think he's off

>base.  He describes Lowell as an unfriendly place and complains about

>the lack of hotels in the downtown area. My friend Mike McLean and I

>visited Lowell several years earlier (like Wong by Greyhound) and found

>a hotel right in downtown Lowell on Bridge Street--I think it was called

>the Surf Hotel.   It wasn't fancy but it was convenient and inexpensive

>at the time.  We found the people in Lowell friendly and generally

>helpful, although many knew nothing of Kerouac back in 1973 or 1974.

>

>I live in Lowell and the Lowell of 1977 and the Lowell of 1996 are like

night and day in comparison. Lowell has gone through an amazing transition

and has turned around so much as to be a model for other cities in this

country. Largely in part to the fact that they have a super police chief and

politicians like Paul Tsongas and others who have faith and pride in their

city and never gave up on it. It also has a hard working South-East Asian

population that brings a wonderful culture and many businesses into the

city. I wish Jack Kerouac was around to see all the Buddhist Temples and

culture that is in the city of Lowell now. He would be proud of what has

become of Lowell. By the way the Surf hotel if it could be called a hotel

was always a dump and a shit hole. Lowell has a huge Shereton right downtown

on the canal and it is a very nice place to stay and there are a lot of new

clubs downtown. It's becoming a happening place. Ask any of the

approximately 150,000 people that came to the Lowell folk festival this

year. Why Bruce Springstein is even coming to the Lowell Auditorium in the

fall if you can believe that. Phil Chaput- lifelong (almost) resident of

Lowell . *LOWELL PRIDE*

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Date:         Wed, 14 Aug 1996 17:38:59 U

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From:         "Kuhn, Rick" <rick_kuhn@MSMAIL-GW.WVMCCD.CC.CA.US>

Subject:      FW: Insecurity kills!

 

(Third try sending.  Sorry for any dupes...er, tripes?)

 

The actual address of The Atlantic Monthly article is

<http://www.theatlantic.com/atlantic/issues/96aug/jackk/jackk.htm> -- and very

good it is, too.  Thanks Jim.

 

So Phil, are the "Projects" in Watertown (where I was born in '51 and lived

'til '62) yuppie heaven now too?  (Who am I to talk, sitting five miles from

Los Gatos?!)

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Date:         Wed, 14 Aug 1996 20:29:09 -0500

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From:         MARILYN SOUDERS <NEWI05B@PRODIGY.COM>

Subject:      Bath

 

Yeah, but Mr. Wong is probably a spring-water-drinking new ager while

you and McLean either got to know the local folks down at the pub or

else you were so soused already that you thought they were being nice

to you.

Did I tell you already about some of the Fall faculty at Pratt:  Kaye

Cassell, Tony C. and Larry Brandwein (teaching administration!)  Oy

veh!

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Date:         Wed, 14 Aug 1996 20:29:17 -0700

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From:         Levi Asher <brooklyn@NETCOM.COM>

Subject:      Tribe Subscribe; On the road (fwd)

 

> To Levi Asher I just read your on the road audition piece, a cack, and I

> didn't even know it was in the works. How has the project progressed, ie

> how long ago was the audition?; and has Coppola done aught about it since?

 

This is a mystery to me.  Last I heard Coppola's son was going to

direct it.  I know Francis Ford C is still involved in the concept

one way or another.  I'm basically hoping the idea stays in

purgatory where it probably belongs.

 

I did get a sneak peek at one version of a screenplay about a year

ago.  It wasn't too obnoxious.  Very oriented towards Neal/Dean.  No

Mexican Girl at all.  Overall: I didn't like it.

 

> Also has anyone seen the On the road play done a couple of years ago? It

> was performed in Melbourne and England (I think). I saw it at St Martins

> with a hootin crowd.

 

I never heard of this, sounds cool though!

 

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

                   Levi Asher = brooklyn@netcom.com

 

           Literary Kicks: http://www.charm.net/~brooklyn/

                    (the beat literature web site)

 

         Queensboro Ballads: http://www.levity.com/brooklyn/

                     (my fantasy folk-rock album)

 

                         *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

 

                        "don't   push       me

                         cause     I'm   close

                         to      the      edge"

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Date:         Thu, 15 Aug 1996 03:39:22 -0400

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         "M.Cakebread" <cake@IONLINE.NET>

Subject:      "Wholly Communion"

 

I was wondering if anyone has knowledge of

where I could get a video/audio copy of this film:

 

"Wholly Communion" (Lorimar, 1965)

The reading at the Royal Albert Hall in early

June of '65, featuring Ginsberg, Corso, Ferlinghetti,

and other local London poets.

 

Privately e-mail me please.

 

Thanx,

Mike <cake@ionline.net>

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Date:         Thu, 15 Aug 1996 05:06:17 EDT

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From:         Joe <100106.1102@COMPUSERVE.COM>

Subject:      dr kinsey

 

>Dear gang,

 

>While channel-surfing last night I happened upon A&E's Biography of Dr.

>Alfred Kinsey, the great sex researcher. I thought to myself, "Gee, I

>wonder if..." and YES! Before the his picture even appeared on the

>screen I recognized THAT VOICE! None other than the late Mr. HERBERT

>HUNCKE himself relating the anecdote of his meeting and subsequent

>interview with Dr. Kinsey in the late 1940s. He dropped a few names of

>people to whom he introduced Dr. Kinsey for the purposes of interviews,

>among whom was WILLIAM S. BURROUGHS whose noble talking head thence

>appeared on my television screen, wryly reminiscing about the good

>doctor.

 

>I thought this was good, Beat TV (BTV?). I welcomed the appearance of

>Huncke's wiry, smoking, smirking person on cable TV so soon after his

>demise. Burroughs was in good form, wearing his lapel pin from the

>Academy of Arts and Letters, holding back a smile.

 

>John Hasbrouck

>Chicago

 

>P.S. To anyone interested in the life and work of Dr. Kinsey I

>enthusiastically recommend "Dr. Kinsey and the Institute for Sex

>Research" by Wardell Pomeroy. Written by one of Kinsey's co-authors of

>"Sexual Behavior in the Human Male", this book is an insider's account

>of the research, interviewing techniques, data analysis, writing,

>publishing and subsequent controversy of that historic volume.

 

 

john, this program was televised in the uk early april.  here's a copy of the

e-mail i sent on 04/04/96.

 

*****

 

just been watching a documentary on tv titled 'reputations: alfred kinsey - the

man who invented modern sex'.  an american scientist who conducted extensive

research into men & women's sexual behaviour.  the documentary included

interviews with a certain herbet hunke & william burroughs.  they were

interviewed in a section concerned with homosexuality in chicago & new york.

 

herbet hunke admitted to sexual relations with men.  when asked if he were

homosexual he denied it.  when asked why he simply said 'well its just sex!'.

 

william burroughs mentioned the types who were interviewed...petty criminals,

prostitutes etc.  although he couldn't quite remember which year he was

interviewed!

 

 

just thought you'd all like to know...

 

 

incidentley, after his books (sexual behaviour in the human male & female) were

published laws against homosexuality were dropped, divorces were easier to get

and the sexual revolution of 50's america started.

 

anyone on this list around at that time?  i think it bears some relevance to how

the beats viewed sex from the 'inside looking out' as well as the 'outside

looking in' (if you know what i mean).

 

 

joe

 

***** end copy

 

since then i've re-read 'on the road' & kerouac actually mentions dr kinsey &

the interviews.  unfortunately a friend has my copy so i can't give page numbers

but it's definetly in there.

 

joe

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Date:         Thu, 15 Aug 1996 08:47:31 -0400

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         Robert Peltier <Robert.Peltier@MAIL.TRINCOLL.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Bath

 

> . . .I live in Lowell and the Lowell of 1977 and the Lowell of 1996 are like

>night and day in comparison. Lowell has gone through an amazing transition

>and has turned around so much as to be a model for other cities in this

>country. . . Ask any of the approximately 150,000 people that came to the

>>Lowell folk festival this year.

 

I was one of those people, and I can attest to what Phil Chaput says.  I

went there solely to check out the Kerouac related events, but found myself

enjoying the entire festival.  The booths and the crowds were composed of a

multitude of ethnic groups, but they mingled unselfconsciously without the

suspicious sidelong glances I'm so used to here in Hartford.  My wife and I

stayed all day and into the evening, and we never heard a harsh word (nor,

strangely, a crying child).

 

I think it's a clean and interesting town with a diverse population, and I

wouldn't mind living there myself.

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Date:         Thu, 15 Aug 1996 11:17:16 -0400

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Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.BITNET>

From:         William Miller <KenWNC@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Tribe

 

Folks --

 

I received MANY requests for my copies of Tribe magazine.  Many more than I

can fill, unfortunately.  I've sent responses to the earliest responders --

you know who you are.

 

Others: if any of these chosen few do not claim their magazines, I'll let you

know.  I'm sorry that I didn't have more on hand.

 

William Miller

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