=========================================================================
Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 20:52:44 -0600
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: "Derek A. Beaulieu"
<dabeauli@FREENET.CALGARY.AB.CA>
Organization:
Calgary Free-Net
Subject: fudge wont budge pts.1 thru 5 (last
word? egad??)
In-Reply-To: <199705210156.SAA10274@calvin.usc.edu>
PART ONE
so the steering column spins
twisting the wheels spitting the
spray splash from the streets
one hand on the wheel and the bottle,
windows fogged with
half conscious woman yelping
" i'm scanning for the bird
wearing a hat of fudge" in a slur of
words&booze
"pack it sez the bird
but the fudge
won't budge," she laughs
to herself;
being quite comfortable with
the flock
" a Pakistan
screams in the bed!" she yells as if an
illumnination
: the hearth is lost,
: my god, we're u?
w/the f.o.'s singing
god is
never
quite
dead
but gives the most
delicious head however
at the moment
- just
sleeping, snoring and
schleping
forever blunder(ing) with the
cocktails and napkins at the bar
ogling the waitress, pushing
himself onto the women next to him,
harrassing
the bartender,
salvaging
f o r g e t.me nots
for his lapel
the blue music of a past life
comes up on the juke box
: a massage then a deeper
massage :
"don't f o r g e t.to put out the
cat" the court jester
moans absentmindedly, as the
bed
vibrates
magic
fingers up & down the spine
"this white
sky blur
myself"
Truth is an unconscious entity.
but arent we all mad?
Frank
Sinatra as god the spent rock star sleeping w/head resting
on the
bar,
hands limply at sides, mouth open
having been
passed
out
since the rise of plastic somewhere in
Massachusetts
ghosts of Dean & Sammy
order out for
pizza
the check's in the mail.
PART TWO
tired of watching Hee Haw reruns on the cable
t.v.
Elvis shoots the television
with his hunk of burning love gun
The King has been to see his main man Dr.
Nick Feelgood
Big E feels
him up good & tall &
small
at the same time
as he
unhitches his lip
from the side of head
and his belt from the
GRACELAND buckle
&
whispers love me tender to the weeping
willow trees
swinging
softly in the Memphis breeze
he kisses the
toes of sweet Mercy Gotlegs
in the back
seat of the his titty pink
'57 Eldorado where
stephen hawking's big bang theories
are
practiced but never preached
the Colonel busy
frying
dancing dixie
chickens who failed to make the
grade - no grade A eggs round here no sir -
we only like the best he
laffs
and grabs at the titts next to him
does a bong hit of
some kickass two hit wonder weed
from way out west
California way
he passes it on
to slick Tricky Dick Nixon who
inhales
the beauty of
everything deeply as the sky runs for
president. nixon pacing and yells at the king
"THE LEAST THE PRESIDENT
SHOULD
KNOW HOW TO DO IS
SUCK
&
INHALE,
GODDAMMITALL!"
PART THREE
the music begins &
they take the stage
once again.
once again
elvis has left the building,
hounded
"you aint nuthin but-a"
holy elvis speaks to me "singing
words of wisdom"
virginia woolf hands me the selfsame rock
still dripping from the
thames.. the blood of richard
nixon
& emily dickonson - both
enshrined in thier rooms.
watching with raven eyes thru
the
drapes.
-but for once the rain stops
because altho'
i have rust under my fingernails,
"elvis is rapidly running out of
buildings" mumbles nixon to sinatra
under
his ginbreath,
"the checks don't even bounce very
high, and i can no longer tell
whether
I am overweight
or otherwise
because despite
battleship's rent due"
peeling carapace from crick neck staring at
high tide marks
last rabid dog of an old city
because despite : we have been
around
been about to hear the right stories
the right people ; electric current
from
my brain to yrs.
faraway lights.
we have at least learned mythology.
PART FOUR
so nothing new, just prosaic :
I'll meet you in the botanical
gardens,
and it'll be just the same as always
;
what is more, if it's not
we have
at least learned how to pretend.
and
run for cover.
and we pretend this mythology
through every backward
county road
and dust-bowl picnic ground
on the map
from Laos to the shores of Maine
and the
rain is the
same everywhere
whether pretense or not ...
it is WET !
PART FIVE
it's harder to pretend things contrary
to the Evidence
(backed up with several thou' years)
- but then i'm with a true deceptive
talent...
... & i'm back with Sinatra &
steering columns,
spray splash waitress
white blur
hearth dust bowl check
stage mail
a dead man
marking time...
salvage ; may as well pick flowers
out of the split kerb
there's no choice to be
made it's
a spent coin over a crossed
line. (count yr change
after
the plans been hatched)
hey man,
I ain't gonna lie
I need money for a beer
who you gotta fuck to
get outta here?
=========================================================================
Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 20:09:35 -0700
Reply-To: stauffer@pacbell.net
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: James Stauffer
<stauffer@PACBELL.NET>
Subject: Re: Truth OTR
Attila
Gyenis wrote:
>
>
THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUTH.
>
But the truth may be that there is more then one truth.
>
Unless the truth is that there is only one truth.
>
>
non-believer of truth unless it's true
>
Attila
And I
would further contend that all truth is infinitly mallable and
will be
a different truth tomorrow.
Except
maybe that nice people swallow--that one stays constant.
James
Stauffer
=========================================================================
Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 23:26:54 -0400
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Phil Chaput <philzi@TIAC.NET>
Subject: Re: fudge won't budge-Haiku
The
fudge
Won't
budge
Try
exlax
(sorry
I couldn't resist)
=========================================================================
Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 20:36:35 -0700
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Gerald Nicosia
<gnicosia@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Re: A Found Poem
At
08:51 PM 5/15/97 -0400, you wrote:
>In
a message dated 97-05-15 11:53:58 EDT, Gerry wrote:
>
>>
I'm out for money and power, I'm a glory
>>hunter,
I'm too cheap to donate to a good cause, I'm a "nut," etc.
>
>A
"found poem" and, incidentally, a pretty darn good summary I think.
>Well
done, Gerry.
>
Hey
Rod, how many more Kerouac letters did
Sampas sell you for putting up
shit
like this?
P.S. When are you gonna resell your Kerouac
letters to the New York Public
Library,
since we keep hearing how everything gets resold there? Let's see,
I
recall sitting at your kitchen table and reading a Kerouac letter to G.J.
Apostolos,
another to John Clellon Holmes, wasn't there one to Cassady too?
What about those Polaroids of Johnny
Depp with John Sampas? I'll
look
for those next time I'm in New York.
Best,
Gerry
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 00:01:53 -0400
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Phil Chaput <philzi@TIAC.NET>
Subject: Re: A Found Poem
At
08:36 PM 5/20/97 -0700, you wrote:
>At
08:51 PM 5/15/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>In
a message dated 97-05-15 11:53:58 EDT, Gerry wrote:
>>
>>>
I'm out for money and power, I'm a glory
>>>hunter,
I'm too cheap to donate to a good cause, I'm a "nut," etc.
>>
>>A
"found poem" and, incidentally, a pretty darn good summary I think.
>>Well
done, Gerry.
>>
>
>Hey
Rod, how many more Kerouac letters did
Sampas sell you for putting up
>shit
like this?
>
>P.S. When are you gonna resell your Kerouac
letters to the New York Public
>Library,
since we keep hearing how everything gets resold there? Let's see,
>I
recall sitting at your kitchen table and reading a Kerouac letter to G.J.
>Apostolos,
another to John Clellon Holmes, wasn't there one to Cassady too?
> What about those Polaroids of Johnny
Depp with John Sampas? I'll
>look
for those next time I'm in New York.
>
>Best,
Gerry
>
>Lighten
up Gerry it was just a joke for Christ sake. We were laughing with
you. HA
HA HA HA HA HA HA
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 00:04:23 -0400
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Phil Chaput <philzi@TIAC.NET>
Subject: Re: Where is Gerry Nicosia?
At
04:50 PM 5/20/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Where
is Gerry Nicosia?? I noticed a couple
of beat-ls have baited him a
>little,
but no reply. This guy can't be
gone. Wheather he was right or
>wrong,
he got us fired up..people were name calling, demeaning, caring,
>hateful,inspiring,
thoughtful, asinine, pouring their hearts out, speaking
>in
tongues. I mean, this guy made people
go nuts. Gerry, we need a little
>spark
here.
>
>Does
that mean what he has is catchy?
Here
comes the snap, crackle and pop too...
=========================================================================
Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 23:51:53 -0600
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: John Mitchell
<mitchell@AUGSBURG.EDU>
Subject: Re: fudge won't budge-Haiku
In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19970521032654.00698900@pop.tiac.net>
>The
fudge
>Won't
budge
>Try
exlax
>
>
>
>(sorry
I couldn't resist)
Resistance
is golden
When IT
Comes
to crud
(sorry,
I've got to run)
=========================================================================
Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 21:58:35 -0700
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Gerald Nicosia
<gnicosia@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Re: A Found Poem
At
12:01 AM 5/21/97 -0400, you wrote:
>At
08:36 PM 5/20/97 -0700, you wrote:
>>At
08:51 PM 5/15/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>>In
a message dated 97-05-15 11:53:58 EDT, Gerry wrote:
>>>
>>>>
I'm out for money and power, I'm a glory
>>>>hunter,
I'm too cheap to donate to a good cause, I'm a "nut," etc.
>>>
>>>A
"found poem" and, incidentally, a pretty darn good summary I think.
>>>Well
done, Gerry.
>>>
>>
>>Hey
Rod, how many more Kerouac letters did
Sampas sell you for putting up
>>shit
like this?
>>
>>P.S. When are you gonna resell your Kerouac
letters to the New York Public
>>Library,
since we keep hearing how everything gets resold there? Let's see,
>>I
recall sitting at your kitchen table and reading a Kerouac letter to G.J.
>>Apostolos,
another to John Clellon Holmes, wasn't there one to Cassady too?
>> What about those Polaroids of Johnny
Depp with John Sampas? I'll
>>look
for those next time I'm in New York.
>>
>>Best,
Gerry
>>
>>Lighten
up Gerry it was just a joke for Christ sake. We were laughing with
>you.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
>
>
Dear
Phil, May 20, 1997
You and Anstee should both go far--and
the sooner you start, the better.
HAHAHAHAHA!
Gerry
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 04:50:00 -0500
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: RACE --- <race@MIDUSA.NET>
Subject: test - checking reply to line
tried
to fix what some folks suggested caused the backchannels. gonna
see how
i do. since i don't get a copy can
someone let me know if the
separate
reply-to address has been effectively eliminated
thanks,
david
rhaesa
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 08:37:15 -0400
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Phil Chaput <philzi@TIAC.NET>
Subject: Re: test - checking reply to line
At
04:50 AM 5/21/97 -0500, you wrote:
>tried
to fix what some folks suggested caused the backchannels. gonna
>see
how i do. since i don't get a copy can
someone let me know if the
>separate
reply-to address has been effectively eliminated
>
>thanks,
>david
rhaesa
>
>Dave,
if you send the message SET BEAT-L REPRO in the body of a message to
the
address LISTSERV@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU you
will be sent a copy of your own
messages.
Occasionally this shuts off and you may have to reset it. It's the
best
way to know if your messages are being distributed. Phil
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 07:43:38 -0500
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: RACE --- <race@MIDUSA.NET>
Subject: Re: test - checking reply to line
Phil
Chaput wrote:
>
> At
04:50 AM 5/21/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>tried to fix what some folks suggested caused the backchannels. gonna
>
>see how i do. since i don't get a
copy can someone let me know if the
>
>separate reply-to address has been effectively eliminated
>
>
>
>thanks,
>
>david rhaesa
>
>
>
>Dave, if you send the message SET BEAT-L REPRO in the body of a message to
>
the address LISTSERV@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
you will be sent a copy of your own
>
messages. Occasionally this shuts off and you may have to reset it. It's the
>
best way to know if your messages are being distributed. Phil
thanks. i know that my messages are being sent. i'll probably do what
you've
suggested. the difficulty is that my
e-mail address is appearing
in the
From line and the Reply-to line. at
least that was the case
according
to a couple of folks last night. i
tried to fix that it my
mail
configuration and wondered if i had succeeded.
it appears from
your
reply that the experiment was a success.
thanks.
david
rhaesa
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 08:41:00 -0400
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: "Michael L. Buchenroth"
<mike@INFINET.COM>
Subject: Re: Cassady Question....
In-Reply-To:
<19970520.103504.20870.0.dean_palmer@juno.com>
On Tue,
20 May 1997, Dean M. Palmer wrote:
> I
have "Holy Goof"and "Off The Road"...What other good
Cassady
>
Biographies are there?
Dean:
Charles
Plymell's "Last of the Moccasins" (LOM) has much factual detail
about
Neal Cassady during the time after Neal moved away from Los Gatos and
Carolyn
Cassady. These events described in LOM take place while Neal
hung
around with Anne Murphy, Charles Plymell, Allen Ginsberg, etc. on
Gough
St in S.F. LOM contains abundant Neal Cassady biographical data not
found
in any other source. Also try "Spit in the Ocean" No. 6. Both these
texts
seem necessary to any thorough Neal Cassady study, once you've read
Carolyn
Cassady's "Off the Road," of course.
-Michael
L. Buchenroth
Michael
L. Buchenroth
mike@buchenroth.com
www.buchenroth.com
To view
Columbus'
Electronic Literary Magazine
go to
www.buchenroth.com/magazine.html
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 08:57:24 -0400
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Marie Countryman
<country@SOVER.NET>
Subject: Re: fudge wont budge pts.1 thru 5 (last
word? egad??)
In-Reply-To:
<Pine.A32.3.93.970520202722.48962B-100000@srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca>
raindogs
and nighthawks
applaud.
mc
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 09:29:59 -0400
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: "Paul McDonald, TeleReference
LA, Main Info Services"
<PAUL@LOUISVILLE.LIB.KY.US>
Subject: Nice people swallow..
Nice
people swallow? I don't get it...
Paul
????
********************************************************************************
Attila
Gyenis wrote:
>
>
THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUTH.
>
But the truth may be that there is more then one truth.
>
Unless the truth is that there is only one truth.
>
>
non-believer of truth unless it's true
>
Attila
And I
would further contend that all truth is infinitly mallable and
will be
a different truth tomorrow.
Except
maybe that nice people swallow--that one stays constant.
James
Stauffer
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 09:41:08 -0400
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: "Paul McDonald, TeleReference
LA, Main Info Services"
<PAUL@LOUISVILLE.LIB.KY.US>
Subject: Re: fudge wont budge pts.1 thru 5 (last
word? egad??)
INFREQUENT
PASSAGE
"Writing a poem is like taking
a hot beer shit..."
---Charles
Bukowski
Seven
years sober
Seventy-seven
deadend relationships
To be
discarded
Or
better yet
Excreted
Thanks
to a Higher Powered Laxative
Blown
out the ass
Of
codependency and addiction
Thanks
to a high fiber program
Prescribed
by Bill Wilson, Alice Miller and John Bradshaw
Trusting
the Process
Releasing
the Past, and
Surrendering
To the
Absolute Colonic Dharma
Of
Consciousness
Paul
McDonald (c) 1993
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 09:47:51 -0400
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Phil Chaput <philzi@TIAC.NET>
Subject: Re: fudge wont budge pts.1 thru 5 (last
word? egad??)
At
09:41 AM 5/21/97 -0400, you wrote:
>INFREQUENT
PASSAGE
>
> "Writing a poem is like taking a hot beer shit..."
>
> ---Charles
Bukowski
>
>Seven
years sober
>Seventy-seven
deadend relationships
>To
be discarded
>Or
better yet
>Excreted
>Thanks
to a Higher Powered Laxative
>
>Blown
out the ass
>Of
codependency and addiction
>Thanks
to a high fiber program
>Prescribed
by Bill Wilson, Alice Miller and John Bradshaw
>Trusting
the Process
>Releasing
the Past, and
>Surrendering
>To
the Absolute Colonic Dharma
>Of
Consciousness
>
>Paul
McDonald (c) 1993
Yahoo!
Bravo! (while doin' the wave)
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 09:10:12 -0500
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: RACE --- <race@MIDUSA.NET>
Subject: Re: Nice people swallow..
Paul
McDonald, TeleReference LA, Main Info Services wrote:
>
>
Nice people swallow? I don't get it...
>
>
Paul
>
????
>
It is
simple.
Premise
#1 Swallowing is a basic biological
process.
Premise
#2 Nice People swallow
Therefore Niceness is a basic biological process for
people.
the
same thinking applies somewhat to other notions such as "inhaling"!!
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 07:49:01 -0700
Reply-To: stauffer@pacbell.net
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: James Stauffer
<stauffer@PACBELL.NET>
Subject: Re: Nice people swallow..
RACE
--- wrote:
>
>
Paul McDonald, TeleReference LA, Main Info Services wrote:
>
>
>
> Nice people swallow? I don't get
it...
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> ????
>
>
> It
is simple.
>
>
Premise #1 Swallowing is a basic
biological process.
>
Premise #2 Nice People swallow
>
Therefore Niceness is a basic
biological process for people.
>
>
the same thinking applies somewhat to other notions such as "inhaling"!!
David,
I like
this logic. "Nice people do"
works for me. They certainly
inhale. This suggests logical problems for mc's
"mean people suck"
since
sucking is also basic biological behavior and therefore nice?
J
Stauffer
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 11:00:44 -0400
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Rod Anstee <Nastees@AOL.COM>
Subject: Conspiracies -- you gotta love em!
Hi,
Gerry. Why would I sell these two letters (count 'em, TWO letters) that
I
bought from the Estate, 6 years ago now!? They are warm and dry, I can
assure
you. Anyone who's interested can come on up and look at them, if they
call
ahead. In the meantime they seem to irritate you & jogrant so much --
heck,
they're worth every penny!
Besides,
Gerry, I'm practically choking on cash here just at the moment,
after just sealing a deal to sell my
"Nicosia Correspondence Archive" to
some
anonymous "collector" in Lowell. He said he'd heard about it in one
of
your
posts to the Beat-List. The guy seemed desperate, I can tell you, in the
end
offering several times what you scared up for your entire MEMORY BABE
archive
back in 1987. I was pretty surprised -- who says Lowell doesn't
celebrate
Kerouac! Greek vacation, here I come. Where's my sunblock,....
CHEERS,
Rod
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 09:21:58 -0700
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Gerald Nicosia <gnicosia@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Re: Conspiracies -- you gotta love em!
At
11:00 AM 5/21/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi,
Gerry. Why would I sell these two letters (count 'em, TWO letters) that
>I
bought from the Estate, 6 years ago now!? They are warm and dry, I can
>assure
you. Anyone who's interested can come on up and look at them, if they
>call
ahead. In the meantime they seem to irritate you & jogrant so much --
>heck,
they're worth every penny!
>Besides,
Gerry, I'm practically choking on cash here just at the moment,
>
after just sealing a deal to sell my "Nicosia Correspondence Archive"
to
>some
anonymous "collector" in Lowell. He said he'd heard about it in one
of
>your
posts to the Beat-List. The guy seemed desperate, I can tell you, in the
>end
offering several times what you scared up for your entire MEMORY BABE
>archive
back in 1987. I was pretty surprised -- who says Lowell doesn't
>celebrate
Kerouac! Greek vacation, here I come. Where's my sunblock,....
>CHEERS,
Rod
>
Dear
Rod, May 21, 1997
OKAY, keep your Kerouac letters. They were the least of my worry
anyhow.
I have spent three weeks trying to get
some real answers about how
much of
the KEROUAC ARCHIVE JOHN SAMPAS HAS LEFT, AND WHAT HE INTENDS TO DO
WITH
IT, AND WHEN. Instead, I just keep
getting more personal attacks from
you and
Chaput.
Your attacks on me even predated my
coming on to the Beat-List; in
fact,
they were a major cause of my appearance here, in order to set the
record
straight.
I have been asking for you and Chaput to substantiate some of
your
claims
(the way I have substantiated mine against John Sampas, with specific
examples
of what he has done to control Kerouac scholarship). Where are
your
examples, to prove that I am greedy, power-mad, crazy, manipulative,
whatever? Other than that I haven't donated to Lowell
Celebrates Kerouac!
(See
post later today from Brad Parker about the ethical lapses of LCK!)
It seems to me if anyone has been
propounding a conspiracy theory,
IT'S
YOU AND CHAPUT. Everything I'm
doing--and the work of all my supposed
cohorts,
like Grant and Parker--is supposed to have been geared toward my
gaining
control of, and money from, the Kerouac Archive.
But if I am so greedy and power-mad,
why didn't I:
1) ask Jan for money from the
beginning?
2) keep a substantial portion of the
benefit money for myself (we
brought
in over twenty thousand dollars gross, and I kept $300 as my salary
for 6
months solid work)?
3) get Jan to include me as a beneficiary in her will?
The biggest question, of course, IS
HOW DID I KNOW SHE WAS GOING TO
DIE IN
JUNE, THREE MONTHS BEFORE HER CASE WAS GOING TO TRIAL? How do you
plan
the death of someone on kidney dialysis, when they can live from one
month
to fifteen years? AND IF JAN HAD TAKEN
THE CASE TO TRIAL HERSELF,
WHAT
GAIN WOULD I HAVE HAD THEN? DID I PUT
IN YEARS OF WORK AT HER SIDE
JUST ON
THE CHANCE THAT SHE'D DIE BEFORE THE CASE CAME TO TRIAL, SO THAT I
COULD
TAKE OVER???
That's a more farfetched conspiracy
theory than even Oliver Stone is
capable
of.
Well, suppose it is true that I
gambled on Jan dying before the
trial. SHOW ME HOW I AM GOING TO GET RICH OR HAVE
COMPLETE CONTROL OF
KEROUAC
SCHOLARSHIP, even if we win Jan's lawsuit.
Even should we win, and
should
I remain fully-empowered literary executor, I will still have to deal
with
John Sampas (1/3 owner), Paul Blake, Jr. (1/3 owner), and, quite
possibly,
Jan's heirs--depending on how the court construes the final
authority. I'm sure as hell going to have to compromise
to make things
work,
and I'm ready to compromise. But where
is Mr. Sampas? Is he offering
to
compromise at all?
I haven't seen Mr. Sampas budge one
inch, and yet you guys never
bother
showering him with the barbs you shower on me.
Imagine for a minute, Rod, someone
making endless charges about your
character--claiming
to all the world that you are corrupt thru and thru, and
yet
they give not one real example to prove this alleged corruption.
WOULDN'T
YOU BE A LITTLE TICKED OFF???
Again, I rest my case.
Adios, old friend,
Gerry Nicosia
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 10:11:03 -0700
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Gerald Nicosia
<gnicosia@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Brad Parker Speaks
To
members of the Beat-List, May
21, 1997
Mr. Brad Parker lives in Chelmsford,
Massachusetts. He created the
Lowell
Corporation for the Humanities over ten years ago. He has used this
group
to stage events celebrating many of the important folk who lived in or
passed
thru Lowell, such as Edgar Allen Poe and Betty Davis, as well as Jack
Kerouac. He is also an author of some distinction,
having written a fine
introductory
book on Kerouac, as well as highly praised monographs on Poe
and
other historical figures.
Recently, Mr. Parker learned of
certain denials made by Phil Chaput
that
there was ever any trouble between the Lowell Celebrates Kerouac!
committee
and the National Park Service. Mr. Parker
asked me to post his
memory
of these events on the Beat-List.
The following statement was made by
Brad Parker on May 16, 1997:
"Enclosed is some information
concerning the events surrounding the
celebration
of Jack Kerouac in Lowell, 1988-1996, and--especially--facts
concerning
myself and the Kerouac Committee (now called 'Lowell Celebrates
Kerouac!').
"For years, the group in Lowell
that thought of itself as the
'official'
Kerouac group was getting Federal aid through the Lowell Historic
Preservation
Commission, and, more recently, through their connection with
the
Lowell National Historic Park. Now,
they can no longer receive
assistance
from the Preservation Commission, which went out of business, nor
are
they any longer cosponsored by the National Park.
"The person most responsible for
the termination of the official
relationship
between the Kerouac Committee and the National Park is
myself--Brad
Parker, founder of the Lowell Corporation For The Humanities,
Inc. The whole process (discussion-conflict) that
led eventually to the
termination
of the relationship between the Kerouacians and the Nat. Park
started
in 1995 when I wrote to (and subsequently met with) the Supt. of the
National
Park, Richard Rambur. Basically, I had
two complaints
(requests)--that
the Kerouac events sponsored by my organization be included
in any
printed programs or publicity that might be issued by either the Nat.
Park or
the Kerouac Committee, and that my organization also receive federal
assistance
through the Nat. Park if such were being granted to other people
doing
Kerouac programs in Lowell. [My
corporation was largely responsible
for
arranging the scholarly forum on Kerouac's Lowell books in 1988, and I
am the
author of a book on Kerouac that has been used with students at
several
universities.]
"After my initial requests, I
found that there was great resistance
from
the Kerouac Group, and the Nat. Park was suggesting that I had to join
the
Kerouac Group in order to be included in the 'offical' cosponsored
events. Later, after further agitation on my part,
including letters to
Washington,
I received a letter from Sandy Walter (Oct., 1995)--formerly the
Supt.
of the Nat. Park in Lowell--stating that the Nat. Park "does indeed
support
the work of your organization and further supports your right to
request
either co-sponsorship of the Festival and/or have
Corporation-sponsored
events included in the Festival schedule." Such never
happened,
and I have always assumed that it was largely resistance from a
few of
the Kerouac leaders in Lowell who were unwilling to act in an
inclusive,
mature, sophisticated, and professional manner. I believe that
there
was conflict over this matter and that the Park and the Kerouac Group
could
not resolve the issue.
"I finally received a letter from
Richard Rambur, the Supt. of the
Lowell
Nat. Park, stating that the relationship between the Park and Lowell
Celebrates
Kerouac! had been 'officially terminated' by 'mutual consent' as
of the
end of February, 1996. Additionally, I
was told by someone who has
connections
with both groups that there were certain deprecatory remarks
made
about Mr. Rambur at one of the Kerouac Group's meetings, and that those
remarks
made their way back to Supt. Rambur.
"There is, as you know, much more
that can be said about these
matters,
but I shall end here with just another sentence or two. I brought
Jan
Kerouac to Lowell twice--she was never invited by the 'official' Kerouac
Group,
even when the memorial to her father was to be dedicated. And, as I
have
told a number of people, I was the target of verbal intimidation by one
of the
main Kerouacians in Lowell, and also have been the target of some
verbal
assault by another of that same group.
I issued a formal comlaint
about
the above to The Preservation Commission in 1994 and never have
received
a complete answer!
"All for the moment. Please feel free to share this letter with
anyone
who might wish to know of the above events relating to Lowell and
Kerouac.
"Best Regards -- Brad Parker
(historian and writer)"
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 12:25:41 -0500
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Patricia Elliott
<pelliott@SUNFLOWER.COM>
Subject: Re: Brad Parker Speaks
Gerald
Nicosia wrote:
>
> To
members of the Beat-List, May
21, 1997
>
> Mr. Brad Parker lives in Chelmsford,
Massachusetts. He created the
>
Lowell Corporation for the Humanities over ten years ago. He has used this
>
group to stage events celebrating many of the important folk who lived in or
>
passed thru Lowell, such as Edgar Allen Poe and Betty Davis, as well as Jack
>
Kerouac. He is also an author of some
distinction, having written a fine
>
introductory book on Kerouac, as well as highly praised monographs on Poe
>
and other historical figures.
> Recently, Mr. Parker learned of
certain denials made by Phil Chaput
>
that there was ever any trouble between the Lowell Celebrates Kerouac!
>
committee and the National Park Service.
Mr. Parker asked me to post his
>
memory of these events on the Beat-List.
> The following statement was made by
Brad Parker on May 16, 1997:
>
> "Enclosed is some information
concerning the events surrounding the
>
celebration of Jack Kerouac in Lowell, 1988-1996, and--especially--facts
>
concerning myself and the Kerouac Committee (now called 'Lowell Celebrates
>
Kerouac!').
> "For years, the group in Lowell
that thought of itself as the
>
'official' Kerouac group was getting Federal aid through the Lowell Historic
>
Preservation Commission, and, more recently, through their connection with
>
the Lowell National Historic Park. Now,
they can no longer receive
>
assistance from the Preservation Commission, which went out of business, nor
>
are they any longer cosponsored by the National Park.
> "The person most responsible for
the termination of the official
>
relationship between the Kerouac Committee and the National Park is
>
myself--Brad Parker, founder of the Lowell Corporation For The Humanities,
>
Inc. The whole process
(discussion-conflict) that led eventually to the
>
termination of the relationship between the Kerouacians and the Nat. Park
>
started in 1995 when I wrote to (and subsequently met with) the Supt. of the
>
National Park, Richard Rambur.
Basically, I had two complaints
>
(requests)--that the Kerouac events sponsored by my organization be included
> in
any printed programs or publicity that might be issued by either the Nat.
>
Park or the Kerouac Committee, and that my organization also receive federal
>
assistance through the Nat. Park if such were being granted to other people
>
doing Kerouac programs in Lowell. [My
corporation was largely responsible
>
for arranging the scholarly forum on Kerouac's Lowell books in 1988, and I
> am
the author of a book on Kerouac that has been used with students at
>
several universities.]
> "After my initial requests, I
found that there was great resistance
>
from the Kerouac Group, and the Nat. Park was suggesting that I had to join
>
the Kerouac Group in order to be included in the 'offical' cosponsored
>
events. Later, after further agitation
on my part, including letters to
>
Washington, I received a letter from Sandy Walter (Oct., 1995)--formerly the
>
Supt. of the Nat. Park in Lowell--stating that the Nat. Park "does indeed
>
support the work of your organization and further supports your right to
>
request either co-sponsorship of the Festival and/or have
>
Corporation-sponsored events included in the Festival schedule." Such never
>
happened, and I have always assumed that it was largely resistance from a
>
few of the Kerouac leaders in Lowell who were unwilling to act in an
>
inclusive, mature, sophisticated, and professional manner. I believe that
>
there was conflict over this matter and that the Park and the Kerouac Group
>
could not resolve the issue.
> "I finally received a letter
from Richard Rambur, the Supt. of the
>
Lowell Nat. Park, stating that the relationship between the Park and Lowell
>
Celebrates Kerouac! had been 'officially terminated' by 'mutual consent' as
> of
the end of February, 1996.
Additionally, I was told by someone who has
>
connections with both groups that there were certain deprecatory remarks
>
made about Mr. Rambur at one of the Kerouac Group's meetings, and that those
>
remarks made their way back to Supt. Rambur.
> "There is, as you know, much
more that can be said about these
>
matters, but I shall end here with just another sentence or two. I brought
>
Jan Kerouac to Lowell twice--she was never invited by the 'official' Kerouac
>
Group, even when the memorial to her father was to be dedicated. And, as I
>
have told a number of people, I was the target of verbal intimidation by one
> of
the main Kerouacians in Lowell, and also have been the target of some
>
verbal assault by another of that same group.
I issued a formal comlaint
>
about the above to The Preservation Commission in 1994 and never have
>
received a complete answer!
> "All for the moment. Please feel free to share this letter with
>
anyone who might wish to know of the above events relating to Lowell and
>
Kerouac.
> "Best Regards -- Brad Parker
(historian and writer)"
patricia
typed
cool,
nice tone, very informative,
i
appreciate the meat sans bile, easier to digest.
p
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 11:48:18 +0000
Reply-To: davo@cjnetworks.com
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: David Ohle
<davo@CJNETWORKS.COM>
Subject: Re: Brad Parker Speaks
Patricia:
I'm lurking again on Beat-L. Must have missed all the recent
controversies.
What's happening?
David
Ohle
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 19:39:40 +0200
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>
Subject: john cage-haiku #2 (what is happened to
me?)
.,-\H a
,.i,\k..u
mahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
KKK
zen
Oooh, questo non lo sopporto!this doesn't bear it
bum!
KKK
zen
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
WHEN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD IS FAST
ASLEEP
Brrrrrrrrrrr!
brrr
KKK
Dostoevskij KKK bum! MUNCH
bum! KKK Wu!
favelle favelle favelle
KKK KKK
KKK
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 18:51:40 +0200
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>
Subject: Re: A Found Poem
In-Reply-To:
<199705210458.VAA14948@italy.it.earthlink.net>
>Dear
Phil, May 20, 1997
>
> You and Anstee should both go far--and
the sooner you start, the
better.
>
> HAHAHAHAHA!
> Gerry
>
>
Gerry, caro paesano,
ben detto!
Gli amici girano
per kilometri
secondo dopo secondo
alla fine del mondo.
Un saluto dall'Italia!
rinaldo *what's happen to rinaldo?*
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 19:40:10 +0200
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>
Subject: john cage-Haiku, john cage is
alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In-Reply-To:
<2.2.32.19970521032654.00698900@pop.tiac.net>
>The
fudge
>Won't
budge
>Try
exlax
>
>
>
>(sorry
I couldn't resist)
>
>
.............oh.ah.............
.............ha.ho.............
.............o..a..............
.............a..o..............
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 19:28:05 +0200
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>
Subject: john cage-haiku #1
tah toh tahh tohh
at 21:00
gronk gronk
at 21:01
clock
JOHN
CAGE IS ALIVE, HE IS TALKING... TO ME!
what is happened to me?
r\ i
\
n a\
\
l
\ d
\ o .
------------.......-----------
"Todas
las granas de arena del desierto de
Chihuahua
son vacuidad!" Jack Kerouac the dharma bums
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 10:48:13 -0700
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Gerald Nicosia
<gnicosia@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Chaput is Back
Dear
Phil, May 21, 1997
To answer one of your reasonable
questions--concerning the 2,000
xeroxed
Kerouac letters in the MEMORY BABE archive at U Mass, Lowell.
(Letters
that are now under seal because of John Sampas's threat to take
legal
action against the library if they show them without his permission.)
The reason they were xeroxes is
because by far the majority of those
people
I interviewed would not let me carry off their original Kerouac
letters. But they let me xerox them for my own use.
I did, by the way, get a chance to
compare originals to xeroxes, and
to
write in any parts that didn't appear clearly on the xeroxes, and also to
add on
a few passages that (yes) actually got cut off by the xerox machines.
(The only original was a post card
from Jack to John Montgomery, but
that is
one of the documents that was stolen from my archive.)
I never said scholars didn't sometimes
have to use xeroxes.
SOMETIMES
THEY DO. But they are far inferior to
using originals (many
xeroxers
are not as meticulous as I was).
Whenever possible, a scholar
wants
access to originals.
So it is no excuse for John Sampas to
tell us he has made xeroxes of
everything
he has sold--although I haven't even heard him claim that much.
Certainly,
if he cares about Kerouac scholarship, he would take pains to see
that
the originals are preserved forever in a library.
Best always, Gerry Nicosia
P.S. You also better go back to law school, or
perhaps you were cutting
classes
the day they went over property rights.
If I pay for a xerox copy,
that
piece of paper belongs to me, and I can give it away or sell it or burn
it--whatever
I please. I cannot, however, sell
copyright in material I have
xeroxed,
and I made clear to U Mass, Lowell, that they were not acquiring
copyright
in ANY PART OF THE MEMORY BABE ARCHIVE.
If I tried to sell
copyright
in Jack Kerouac's letters, Mr. Sampas would have sued me a long
time
ago.
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 19:48:16 +0200
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>
Subject: Re: Brad Parker Speaks
>David
wrote:
>>Patricia:
I'm lurking again on Beat-L. Must have missed all the recent
>>controversies.
What's happening?
>>
>>David
Ohle
>>
>i'm
a beatspotting...
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 13:09:34 -0500
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Patricia Elliott
<pelliott@SUNFLOWER.COM>
Subject: Re: Brad Parker Speaks
well,
for months at least four guys have been hot talking about the jk
estate,
this one guy, (gerald (who has battered writers syndrome)
believes
that jacks mothers will was forged and
that the late jan k and
jacks
impoverished nepher should share in the estate, he is also
concerned
that the sampas are selling piecmeal various jk letters. Phil
chaput
and ron anstee are facimile virgins and get down on (name calling
and
attacking) gerry, and jo grant. I have
saved all the posts and
could
identify the threads if they are of interests.
sometimes it is
real
interesting and sometimes i am just glad to be a woman, haha.
by the
way, this response should be enough to get my toes toasted, but
happily
they are asbestos.
p
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 13:10:58 -0500
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Patricia Elliott
<pelliott@SUNFLOWER.COM>
Subject: foucault
Who is
foucault, is he fun to read.
p
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 14:22:53 -0400
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Marie Countryman
<country@SOVER.NET>
Subject: Re: john cage-haiku #1
In-Reply-To:
<3.0.1.32.19970521192805.00b64de4@pop.gpnet.it>
must
say, rinaldo, this is so far one of my favoite of your performance
pieces
in 2 dimentional space. thanks.
mc
> tah toh tahh tohh
> at 21:00
> gronk gronk
> at 21:01
> clock
>
>
>
>JOHN
CAGE IS ALIVE, HE IS TALKING... TO ME!
>
> what is happened to me?
>
> r\ i
> \
> n a\
> \
> l
>\ d
> \ o .
>------------.......-----------
>
>"Todas
las granas de arena del desierto de
>Chihuahua
son vacuidad!" Jack
Kerouac the dharma bums
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 12:33:25 +0000
Reply-To: davo@cjnetworks.com
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: David Ohle
<davo@CJNETWORKS.COM>
Subject: Re: foucault
Patricia:
I think he's a contemporary French social philosopher. Some
people
think he's fun to read. Of course, it may also be the inventor
of the
pendulum. D.O.
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 14:25:11 -0400
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Marie Countryman
<country@SOVER.NET>
Subject: Re: Brad Parker Speaks
In-Reply-To: <33833A5E.65BD@sunflower.com>
you GO
girl!
..what
she said!
mc
>well,
for months at least four guys have been hot talking about the jk
>estate,
this one guy, (gerald (who has battered writers syndrome)
>believes
that jacks mothers will was forged and
that the late jan k and
>jacks
impoverished nepher should share in the estate, he is also
>concerned
that the sampas are selling piecmeal various jk letters. Phil
>chaput
and ron anstee are facimile virgins and get down on (name calling
>and
attacking) gerry, and jo grant. I have
saved all the posts and
>could
identify the threads if they are of interests.
sometimes it is
>real
interesting and sometimes i am just glad to be a woman, haha.
>
>by
the way, this response should be enough to get my toes toasted, but
>happily
they are asbestos.
>p
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 14:55:27 -0400
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Marie Countryman
<country@SOVER.NET>
Subject: karmic check-up from JK hisself/pome of
day
In-Reply-To: <33833A5E.65BD@sunflower.com>
from :
The Scripture of the Golden eternity
1
did i
create that sky? yes, for, if it was
anything
other than a concepton in my mind
i
wouldnt have said 'sky' --that is why i am the
golden
eternity. there are not two of us here,
reader
and writer, but one, one golden eternity,
one-which-it-is,-that-which-everything-is
3
that
sky, if it was anything other than an
illusion
of my mortal mind i wouldnt have said
'that
sky,' thus i made that sky, i am the
golden
eternity. i am mortal golden eternity.
4
i was
awakened to show the way, chosen to
die in
the degradation of life, because i am
mortal
golden eternity.
5
i am
the golden eternity in mortal animate form.
6
strictly
speaking, there is no me, because all is
emptiness.
i am empty, i am non-existent
7
this
truth law has no more reality than the world
8
you are
the golden eternity because there is
no me
and no you, only one golden eternity.
9
the
realizer. entertain no imaginations whatever,
for the
thing is a no-thing. knowing this then
is
human godhood.
10
this
world is the movie of what everything is,
it is
one movie, made up of the same stuff
throughout,
belonging to nobody, which is what
everything
is.
11
if we
wre not all the golden eternity we
wouldnt
be here. because we are here we
cant
help being pure. to tell man to be pure on
account
of the punishiing angel that punishes the
bad and
the rewarding angel that rewards the good
would
be like telling the water 'be wet' --never
the
less, all things depend on suprene reality,
which
is already established as the record of
karma-earned
fate.
12
god is
not outside us but is just us, the
living
and the dead, the never-lived and
never-died.
that we should learn it only now, is
supreme
reality, it was witten a log time ago
in the
archives of universal mind, it is already
done,
there's no more to do
13
this is
the knowledge that sees the golden
eternity
in all things, which is us, you,
me, and
which is no longer us, you, me
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 12:05:46 -0700
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Gerald Nicosia
<gnicosia@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Where is Gerry Nicosia?
Ron
Guest writes:
"Where is Gerry Nicosia? I noticed a couple of beat-ls have baited
him a
little, but no reply. This guy can't be
gone."
Dear
Ron and fellow Beat-Ls:
May 21, 1997
No "conspiracy" was involved
in my recent disappearance from the
Beat-List. I just returned from four days in Chicago,
attending the 30th
reunion
of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW).
Most of the talks and workshops had to
do with veterans working for
peace
and healing. It was nice not to be
called greedy or power-mad by
anyone
for a few days.
I expect Mr. Sampas probably feels
under attack much of the time,
just as
I do. Perhaps he feels I wish to prove
that HE is greedy and
power-mad. I would like to believe that he is neither;
that he is a
reasonable
man who wants to do the right thing.
The problem, you say, is that Sampas's
vision of what is right is
different
from Nicosia's. That does not preclude
some form of compromise
vision,
however.
Let's look at Mr. Sampas's options:
1) He can continue to refuse to deal
with the Kerouac family (Paul
Blake,
Jr.) and Jan Kerouac's literary executor, myself. This option, at
least
temporarily, gives him the right to do whatever he wishes with Jack
Kerouac's
entire archive.
Under this option, 5 different results
can occur:
A) He can continue to sell off
Jack Kerouac's papers to
dealers
and collectors, and keep all the money for himself and his family.
However,
he runs the risk of a court injunction, as long as the Florida
lawsuit
has not been dismissed.
B) He can choose to sell Jack
Kerouac's papers to a library,
and
keep all the money for himself and his family.
Again, as long as the
Florida
lawsuit has not been dismissed, he runs the risk of a court
nullifying
the deal and ordering his family to repay all the money.
C) He can wait, hoping that
Mr. Nicosia will be successfully
removed
as Jan Kerouac's literary executor; and that when that happens,
Jan's 2
heirs will still be willing to complete their deal with him and
dismiss
the Florida lawsuit. Once it is
dismissed, he can proceed to sell
off
Jack Kerouac's papers or put them into a library--as he chooses--without
fear of
court restraint.
D) He waits, but Mr. Nicosia
is not removed. The case in
Florida
goes to trial, and he wins. The end
result is the same as in C)
above. He can now do as he pleases with Jack
Kerouac's papers forever.
E) The result Mr. Sampas would rather not think
about. Mr.
Nicosia
is not dismissed. The case goes to
trial in Florida, and Mr. Sampas
loses.
Gabrielle's will is disqualified. Jan
Kerouac's estate, and the
living
Paul Blake, Jr., come in for at least 2/3 ownership of everything.
The
court will now decide how much or how little right the Sampas family has
to what
remains. The Sampases may be asked to
make restitution for almost
30
years' of money they have received from Jack Kerouac's estate without an
actual
legal right to more than a third of it (the dower's right).
2) Mr. Sampas chooses to negotiate
with Jan Kerouac's literary
executor,
Gerald Nicosia, and Paul Blake, Jr.
Under option 2, there are 3 possible
results:
A) Mr. Sampas makes clear that
he seeks vindication at law;
that he
feels his family has full right to every dollar earned by Jack
Kerouac's
estate, and they choose, if possible, to keep everything for
themselves. However, MR. SAMPAS AGREES THAT JACK
KEROUAC'S PAPERS SHOULD BE
PRESERVED
IN A LIBRARY AND MADE ACCESSIBLE TO SCHOLARS NOW, since the
scholarly
community has already waited almost 30 years.
Mr. Sampas, Mr. Blake, and Mr.
Nicosia, through their
lawyers,
agree on a library and a price, and the sale of Jack Kerouac's
archive
is made with the approval of the Circuit Court of Pinellas County,
Florida.
The court arranges for all the
money, probably $1-2 million,
to be
placed in escrow, or some form of trust account, which will be
administered
by the court until the Florida case is tried and a final
decision
is reached, or until the suit is eventually dismissed. At the time
of
final decision or dismissal, the money in the trust account will be
disbursed
according to the decree of the court.
B) Mr. Sampas, while
continuing to insist that Gabrielle
Kerouac's
will was not forged, prefers to settle this matter out of court.
He
agrees that Jack Kerouac's papers should be preserved and made accessible
in a
library now, and he is also wiling to concede that Jan Kerouac's heirs
and
Gabrielle Kerouac's only living grandchild, Paul Blake, Jr., should have
some
share of the financial benefits from Jack Kerouac's estate. Perhaps
less
than 1/3, or perhaps a full 1/3 each, but without the right to claim
restitution
for any of the past 30 years' of earnings which the Sampas
family
has already been paid.
He is also willing to share
some portion of the
decision-making
power concerning where the archive ends up--share that power
with
Paul Blake, Jr., and with Jan Kerouac's lawfully-appointed literary
executor,
Gerald Nicosia. (This would require
peace between Mr. Lash and
Mr.
Nicosia, but since Mr. Lash has been taking his cues from Mr. Sampas,
that
should not be a problem.)
Obviously, there is much room
for negotiation in this scenario.
IMHO, Option 2, either A or B,
holds the brightest future
for all
those with a serious interest in Jack Kerouac's works and in Jack
Kerouac
scholarship. It would mean the entire
Jack Kerouac archive could
become
accessible within a matter of months--and that such accessibility
would
be permanent and not subject to being undone by a court.
There is RESULT C) however:
Negotiations break down, and we
revert
to Option 1.
I wish to state here, in public, my
willingness and desire to work
with
Mr. Sampas on making some form of Option 2, A or B, come to fruition.
That
is, if Mr. Sampas is willing to negotiate now, I would do my best to
reach
some agreement with him that would make the Kerouac archive accessible
to the
scholarly community as soon as possible.
I cannot, of course, speak for Paul
Blake, Jr. He is represented by
his own
attorney, Mr. WIlliam Wagner, of Tampa, Florida. But while Jan was
alive,
Paul signed a document with Jan indicating that he would gladly
negotiate
with Mr. Sampas to get the Jack Kerouac archive into a library and
accessible
as soon as possible, and I have no reason to believe he has
changed
his mind about that.
I am aware that Mr. Sampas may be
loath to negotiate in public,
especially
here on the internet. For that reason,
I am going silent here
for a
month--at least on the subject of the Estate Fight. I may pipe up
from
time to time about something else, and I will still answer private
email
queries at GNicosia@earthlink.net. I
WISH TO ASSURE MR. SAMPAS,
HOWEVER,
THAT IF HE REQUIRES COMPLETE CONFIDENTIALITY FROM ME DURING
NEGOTIATIONS,
HE SHALL HAVE IT.
Mr. Sampas knows where I am, and he
knows how to reach my attorney.
I hope I may eventually have something
good to report to you all on
this
score--or perhaps I should state more accurately, that WE [since
several
people are involved] will have something good to report.
In the meantime, I would encourage all
of you to follow Jerry
Cimino's
suggestion, and let Mr. Sampas know what you feel is the best
course
for him to take. The ball is now in his
court, and I await his next
move.
We know he scrutinizes the Beat-List
postings about the estate; or
if you
prefer to contact him privately, you can write or fax him care/of his
agent:
Sterling Lord-Literistic, 65 Bleecker St., NY NY 10012. Fax:
212-780-6095. You may or may not choose to share these
communications with me.
ONE MORE THING, A GENTLE WARNING:
Mr. Chaput claims there is now an
8-page list of Kerouac pieces in
the New
York Public Library placed there by Mr. Sampas. (By the way, how
about
printing that list here for us right now, instead of revealing it only
to the
buyers of Maher's magazine?)
Even if Mr. Sampas has sold some new
pieces to the New York Public
Library
(I'm waiting to hear if they are SIGNIFICANT pieces), THERE IS STILL
A MAJOR
PROBLEM WITH THIS METHOD OF PUTTING THE KEROUAC ARCHIVE ON LIBRARY
DEPOSIT.
THE PROBLEM IS THIS:
Once you have removed many significant
pieces from the archive, no
other
major university is going to put up big bucks (read: $1-2 million) to
house
what is left of the archive. I have
talked to the library directors
at
Bancroft, Stanford, and Texas, and they stated very strongly that they
would
NOT be interested AT ALL in acquiring a "gutted archive." This means
that
Mr. Sampas, by doling Kerouac's archive out piece by piece to the New
York
Public, virtually commits himself to that library. But suppose that in
a year,
or several years, down the line, the New York Public Library gets a
new
archive director who dislikes Kerouac; or, even more likely, the City of
New
York runs out of money to spend on luxuries like literary archives.
If that happens, the NYPL is no longer
in a position to buy the
remainder
of the Jack Kerouac archive, and now no other major library wants
what is
left. There may be thousands of pieces
of paper left, but no major
library
is going to spend the money and time archiving and offering them to
the
public, if they cannot lay claim to keeping a reasonably intact collection.
What happens then? Obviously, John Sampas or his heirs just
auction
off the
remainder to collectors and dealers for whatever they can get for it.
ONCE AGAIN, LET ME STATE: JACK
KEROUAC'S ARCHIVE IS TOO IMPORTANT TO
BE
ALLOWED TO SLIP THROUGH THE CRACKS OF TIME AND CHANCE IN THIS MANNER.
Hoa Binh (that's "peace" in
Vietnamese)
Gerry Nicosia
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 15:15:43 -0400
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Marie Countryman
<country@SOVER.NET>
Subject: of interest to some
In-Reply-To:
<v01530500afa5f96e4eea@[204.181.15.86]>
tricycle,
the buddhist review, spring editon
has
lots of wonderful stuff.
issue
has big section, dharma 101: back to basics; well done and of
interest
to those of little or large knowledge both
and a
excellent (in my opin) review of snyder's mts and rivers without end.
mc
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 15:21:00 -0400
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Marie Countryman
<country@SOVER.NET>
Subject: to the beat Hatfields and Mcoys
In-Reply-To:
<970520120134_-1230690775@emout03.mail.aol.com>
now, i
got nuthin agin feuding, fellers,
but
some times folks just got te take it out to the back- 40
(in
cyberspeak, offlist)
just my
opin.
mc
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 12:12:04 -0700
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: "Lisa M. Rabey"
<lisar@NET-LINK.NET>
Subject: Re: Nice people swallow..
In-Reply-To:
<970521092959.2df0@louisville.lib.ky.us>
At
09:29 AM 5/21/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Nice
people swallow? I don't get it...
>
>Paul
>????
erm.
Its a
"joke" that has been running around for along time. Due to the
popularity
of the "mean people suck" campaign, there has been variations
such as
"nice people swallow".
It
means, *being sexually explict* swallowing semen when you give head.'
Get it
now? ;)
ttfn.
Lisa
--
Lisa M.
Rabey
Internet
and Computer Consultant
San
Francisco, California
http://the.art.of.sekurity.org/simunye
**************************************
General
man-hating bitchy "i know more than you" chick.
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 15:32:09 -0400
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: "Paul McDonald, TeleReference
LA, Main Info Services"
<PAUL@LOUISVILLE.LIB.KY.US>
Subject: Re: Nice people swallow...
Swallowing
seamen when they go to the head? I knew
there was a tradition of
cannibalism
in the Navy but I thought it was relatively under control...
Yours
Emily
(Whats all this I hear about endangered feces) Litella
a.k.a.
Paul
!!!!!!!
*******************************************************************************
At
09:29 AM 5/21/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Nice
people swallow? I don't get it...
>
>Paul
>????
erm.
Its a
"joke" that has been running around for along time. Due to the
popularity
of the "mean people suck" campaign, there has been variations
such as
"nice people swallow".
It
means, *being sexually explict* swallowing semen when you give head.'
Get it
now? ;)
ttfn.
Lisa
--
Lisa M.
Rabey
Internet
and Computer Consultant
San
Francisco, California
http://the.art.of.sekurity.org/simunye
**************************************
General
man-hating bitchy "i know more than you" chick.
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 14:48:46 -0500
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: RACE --- <race@MIDUSA.NET>
Subject: Re: Nice people swallow..
Lisa M.
Rabey wrote:
>
> At
09:29 AM 5/21/97 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Nice people swallow? I don't get
it...
>
>
>
>Paul
>
>????
>
>
erm.
>
Its a "joke" that has been running around for along time. Due to the
>
popularity of the "mean people suck" campaign, there has been
variations
>
such as "nice people swallow".
> It
means, *being sexually explict* swallowing semen when you give head.'
>
Get it now? ;)
>
>
ttfn.
>
Lisa
> --
>
>
Lisa M. Rabey
>
Internet and Computer Consultant
>
San Francisco, California
>
http://the.art.of.sekurity.org/simunye
>
**************************************
>
General man-hating bitchy "i know more than you" chick.
perhaps
a demonstration would help everyone understand ....
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 14:56:53 -0500
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: RACE --- <race@MIDUSA.NET>
Subject: Gerry N. -- non-estate matter
This is
a multi-part message in MIME format.
--------------53A3738B4C8B
Content-Type:
text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding:
7bit
i hope
that the trip to Chicago was rewarding.
i'd seriously intended
to
visit Thomas Park here and Salina to witness a small celebration in
route
to the larger ones. i thought it would
be an interesting learning
experience. unfortunately, sinus infections and chemical
imbalances
found
me passed out on the couch.
i was
wondering if you knew anything about the below. So far, nobody
has
shared any information.
--------------53A3738B4C8B
Content-Type:
message/rfc822
Content-Transfer-Encoding:
7bit
Content-Disposition:
inline
Message-ID:
<33802A81.3819@midusa.net>
Date:
Mon, 19 May 1997 05:25:05 -0500
From:
RACE --- <race@midusa.net>
Reply-To:
race@midusa.net
X-Mailer:
Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I)
MIME-Version:
1.0
To:
Beat-L <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject:
Secret Mullings About Bill
Content-Type:
text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding:
7bit
i saw
reference yesterday to something like this being a work in
progress
of Kerouac's at some point.
given
that i'm a burroughs' junkie (and seem to becoming a Kerouacian as
well)
i'd love to read Jack's insights into William.
was
this ever published in any form? are
there photocopies in some
vault?
david
rhaesa
--------------53A3738B4C8B--
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 12:58:03 -0700
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: "Lisa M. Rabey"
<lisar@NET-LINK.NET>
Subject: Re: Nice people swallow..
In-Reply-To: <3383519E.3E4A@midusa.net>
At
02:48 PM 5/21/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Lisa
M. Rabey wrote:
>>
>>
At 09:29 AM 5/21/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>Nice people swallow? I don't get
it...
>>
>
>>
>Paul
>>
>????
>>
>>
erm.
>>
Its a "joke" that has been running around for along time. Due to the
>>
popularity of the "mean people suck" campaign, there has been
variations
>>
such as "nice people swallow".
>>
It means, *being sexually explict* swallowing semen when you give head.'
>>
Get it now? ;)
>>
>>
ttfn.
>>
Lisa
>>
--
>>
>>
Lisa M. Rabey
>>
Internet and Computer Consultant
>>
San Francisco, California
>>
http://the.art.of.sekurity.org/simunye
>>
**************************************
>>
General man-hating bitchy "i know more than you" chick.
>
>perhaps
a demonstration would help everyone understand ....
>
Sure!
No problem ;)
HOW TO
SUCK COCK - A 14 LESSON TUTORIAL
WITH
TECHNIQUES FROM SOME OF THE EXPERTS.
By:
Anonymous
LESSON
ONE
I am
not sure if it was because I grew up in a household with
brothers
or whether I would have had the same feelings and
inclinations
had I been an only child but I do know that from the
time of
my earliest memories I have been fascinated with penises.
Let's talk about the "basic
penis." I regard oral sex as the
highest
form of expression of love that can be exchanged between
two
people. Hopefully this information will help you to break down
any
barriers which you might have that would prevent you from
expressing
your love in this way and from receiving a
reciprocation
from your male companion.
First things first. LOOK at the cock. I do not mean a
cursory
glance not a hurried, surreptitious examination. Take
enough
time that you convince your companion that some kind of
treat
is in store for him provided he will allow you to do with
him,
and particularly with his cock, exactly what you want.
Place him flat on his back on your
bed, in a well lighted
room.
Take his cock in your hand and LOOK at it. He probably will
not
have the will power to stay soft, but then again you are
worshipping
his very essence. Few men can stay soft
under these
circumstances,
when it is apparent that the person LOOKING at his
cock is
worshipping.
When you first start to touch him, his
cock will become hard
and be
in a state where your examination will be meaningful.
Wouldn't
it be nice if going to the doctor for an examination was
as
enriching?
The cock must be hard if you are to be
able to note the
important
parts-those parts sensitive to stimulation by your lips
and
tongue.
The first thing you will note is
whether or not he is
circumcised. Circumcision is not universally practiced:
there are
advantages
and disadvantages to penises in both conditions from
the
standpoint of providing oral caresses that bring the highest
kind of
delight to your man.
Next take a close look at the shaft of
the penis itself.
There
is a bulbous part of the organ near the outer end, slightly
larger
in diameter than the shaft, which is often called the head.
Technically
this is the glans penis (comes from the Latin glans
which
means acorn. Look at it closely; does
kind of look like an
acorn
doesn't it?)
The outside perimeter of the glans
penis is the corona. This
joins
the head to the shaft. This is the most sensitive spot on
the
penis. It is toward this ridge that you will direct most of
your
attention when you are giving head.
Follow this ridge around
to the
underside of the penis. You know that I like to call it the
underbelly.
I am particularly fond of the underbelly!
You will notice a point of juncture where
the two ends of
this
irregular circle come together. If your partner is not
circumcised,
this will also be the point where the foreskin is
attached. This tiny area is easily the most sensitive
spot on his
entire
body, and it is possible to bring your partner to climax
simply
by gently tapping the tip of your tongue directly on it.
Spend
time caressing the glans and those areas immediately
surrounding
it.
Beneath the glans is the shaft of the
penis. The shaft does
not
have many nerve endings and does not, therefore, provide a man
with
any high degree of stimulation when caressed either manually
or with
your tongue to the exclusion of the glans penis itself.
It
always amazes me to note the number of confirmed cocksuckers
who
believe that sucking up and down on the shaft will get the guy
off.
That's not it folks! If it works it is because the back of
your
throat is playing tricks on his glans penis. Your throat is
giving
head to his head!
Beneath the shaft are the testicles (balls,
jewels, call
them
what you like, but let's not ignore their significance). The
testicles
are extremely sensitive to pain and are not usually
considered
subject to erotic stimulation to any particular degree.
Not
true! You can add a high degree of
pleasure for him by paying
the
right kind of attention to the balls!
Now lets go back to the shaft of the
matter. The opening in
the tip
of the glans penis is the meatus. Here
is where the cum
spurts.
(I could have said semen is ejaculated but I did not want
to
sound too professional).
There are other parts of a man's body
which respond with
alacrity
to oral stimulation.
Many men are particularly sensitive
around the nipples. The
first
time I kissed my partner's nipples he shot before I had the
chance
to even get near his cock. While I have not been able to
duplicate
this in the laboratory setting (he hates to go near the
lab
with me) my partner still gets extremely turned on by my
lingual
nipple caresses.
So LOOK at your partner's penis. Study
it. Learn its areas
of
special sensitivity completely and be ready to apply your
knowledge
to his body with your tongue and with your lips when you
bend
your loving head over his cock. There is nothing that you can
do
which more clearly shows your love for him than the worship you
can
provide his cock!
LESSON
TWO
The sad fact is that most people, men
and women, do not have
the
slightest idea of how to suck cock. Most seem to think that
simply
by making a cunt of their mouth, closing it around a man's
penis,
and bobbing their heads lustily up and down until he
climaxes
automatically makes them expert cocksuckers.
Au
contraire!
Consummate skill is required to suck a
man's cock and
provide
him with the highest degree of pleasure possible. When I
first
started my quest I really had no one to turn to for advice
and
counsel. It was all hunt and suck. Hunt and suck. Find that
one
technique that could and would set him on fire! I had to
learn
from my experiences and while I would not want to deny you
the
innate pleasure that these experiences will bring I would hate
to see
you lose a great companion because of your inexperience and
lack of
expertise.
Let's assume that you have taken that
opportunity to LOOK at
his
penis. To explore each area of the
penis to find the most
sensitive
parts. That you have gotten beyond "Parts is parts" and
recognize
that some parts are more equal than others.
In order for you to observe your man's
reactions and get the
most
information possible about his responses try the following:
While his erect penis points toward
the ceiling, cup his
balls
in one hand and gently, using only your tongue, lick softly,
but
carefully along the entire underside of his erect organ. As
you
suck along the underbelly you will learn those areas that give
him the
greatest pleasure when your tongue is touching them.
Unless
he is made of stone, your partner will provide you with
vivid
clues as to which areas are most pleasurable.
As you discover these areas of
enhanced pleasure concentrate
on
them. For most men the most sensitive area will be the point
where
the ring (or corona) of the head and the foreskin are
attached.
Or were attached prior to his circumcision.
By
continued
licking and tapping along this area with your tongue you
are
going to bring forth a geyser. If you are not skilled and you
want to
please him in a hurry I suggest that you get him off in
this
manner in order to become familiar at first hand with the
nature
and delight of his climax.
As he is getting ready for climax you
will note changes in
his
penis. These signs will be the same every time he climaxes so
that
you can prepare for his cum properly. The head of the cock
may
swell somewhat larger then it is during the normal course of
his
erection. He may thrust his hips
forward as he wants to send
his
body
hurtling out his cock with his cum. And for most men,
immediately
prior to the cum, there will appear at the tiny,
lovely
lips at the tip of the cock a clear drop or two of fluid.
When
you see this or feel the opening at the meatus through his
condom
you know that the moment of truth is at hand. Launch the
torpedoes,
full cum ahead!
Where should you be when you are sucking his cock? Between
his
legs, on top of him, in a sixty nine position?
Where?
Because
of the structure of his penis, as well as the structure of
your
mouth, lips, tongue, and teeth, you can provide the highest
degree
of sensation to yourself and your partner by kneeling
between
his legs and approaching his cock from the bottom rather
than
from the side or the top. Don't believe me? Try the various
positions
(I describe in later chapters techniques to be used with
each
position). See what works best for you and your partner.
LESSON
THREE
Place his stiff cock inside your mouth
but do not tighten
your
lips around the shaft. With your head begin a circle motion.
The
cock will slide to different places in your mouth as you
continue
the circle motion. Watch your teeth on
this one. A
kneeling
position will suffice but it is also effective when your
partner
is on his back and your head is directly over his cock.
The
circle should be executed in both clockwise and
counterclockwise
motions in a slow purposeful manner. I found many
guys in
New York who seem to prefer this technique above all
others.
I met one guy who could circle a cock for hours and I
found
myself having multiple orgasms while his mouth circled my
cock. I
didn't lose my hard-on after each cum.
When the technique
is
performed correctly it means many hours of unadulterated
pleasure.
LESSON
FOUR
With your man sitting in an elevated
position and you on
your
knees in front of him lift his hard cock to reveal his balls.
With
your tongue find the underside of his balls.
Now, while
resting
his balls on your wet tongue, lick in an upward motion to
the
very tip of his cock. It is permissible
to use your hands in
this
technique. It is bettor to do this
technique several times
in
succession-like licking a lollipop or ice cream cone. I grew up
down
south. And one thing about southern boys, we learn early how
to get
if off quickly when the need is there. And the lollipop
lick is
the one technique in this book which few men can tolerate
for
long periods of time without cumming.
LESSON
FIVE
Right now lets discuss a technique
that is probably the
most
common cocksucking technique in the world.
Take his cock in
your
mouth but not deeply. We will get to
deep-throating later
on. It's great, not over-rated, but if you want
to be an expert
at deep
throat start with the right techniques and work your way
down,
so to speak.
Take his cock in your mouth by sliding
your moistened tongue
lovingly
over the head until your lips close around the shaft at
the
point just behind the corona. Don't
just open your mouth and
close
it around his cock. Slide it in. He will enjoy it much more.
Encase the shaft of his penis with
your hand. Remember the
shaft
is relatively insensitive to any kind of stimulation. By
enclosing
his penis with your hand you give him the sensation of
having
his penis encased.
Now you have several options. Try twisting your head from
side to
side making sure your moist lips stay in contact with the
coronal
ridge. While doing this gently move
your hand up and down
the
shaft. When he climaxes he may want to
push your head further
down
the shaft of his penis. He wants to envelop you with his
cock.
As you are learning his climax you will miss the fine points
if you
deep throat at this time. Instead
gently suck around the
corona
as he climaxes so that you can intensify his pleasure and
increase
the force of his orgasm.
As you gain more experience you will
be able to tell exactly
when
his climax is approaching and you will be ready for that
initial
spurt out the rubber.
LESSON
SIX
There is one further refinement to
this basic technique
which
will heighten his orgasm. If you place your thumb at the
very
base of the penis in such a way as to block the tube through
which
the cum spurts, the semen cannot escape even though he is
spasming
and going through the reflex action of ejaculating semen.
If at the same time you suck
vigorously on the head of his
cock
you can delay his cum for several long moments. When you
finally
allow the cum to spurt it will last much longer and be
just as
intense as a result. Even though you
delay the cum for
only a
few short moments you will be surprised by the intensity of
his
cum.
These techniques are the basis of
cocksucking. Do not go
beyond
them until you have become an expert, not only in the
techniques
themselves, but also in the reading and interpreting of
your
partner's responses to such a point that you know exactly how
he is
getting off on what you are doing. When
you have reached
this
point, you are ready for the more subtle, more advanced
techniques.
Don't be so slavish that you miss out
on the fun of self
discovery.
Find out what works for you and for your partner and
make
your cocksucking as individual as your signature. After all,
you
want your man to pick you out in the dark among hundred
slobbering
cocksuckers.
LESSON
SEVEN
One of the first things you
encountered when you first
started
to suck cock was a gag reflex. Most men
seem to want to
force
their cocks down your throat as far as they can get it.
Particularly
at the moment when they cum!
Consider for a moment that the average
length of your oral
cavity
is three to three and a half inches while the average
Caucasian
cock length is five to five and a half inches. The laws
of
nature would seem to dictate that getting all that cock into
your
mouth is an impossibility.
It can be done. You probably know
someone who can do it and
that is
why you purchased this book to begin with. It is possible
to
master the necessary technique. I don't
want to be boring, but
if you
understand your anatomy you will begin to understand the
requirements
that allow you to take his hard cock into your mouth
and
down your throat. The biggest obstacle
to taking all of his
cock
down your throat is the fact that there is a bend of almost
ninety
degrees behind your tongue leading down into your throat.
So the
first thing to do is get the cock past that angle.
Get
past the angle of the dangle!
In order to practice this, get in a
position where you can
turn
your head in such a way that your mouth and throat lie almost
in a
straight line. The best position to accomplish this is to lie
on a
bed so that your head is near the edge with your body
sprawled
across the bed so that your head is tipped sharply back.
This
position will put your mouth and throat nearly in a line and
will
allow your partner to approach you in such a way that
insertion
of his cock can be made so deeply that his pubic hair
presses
against your lips.
LESSON
EIGHT
Today we will practice mastering
physical reaction that must
be
alleviated before the art of deep penetration can fully be
enjoyed.
The natural tendency of the body to gag when a foreign
object
such as a deeply thrusting cock being forced down your
throat. You can overcome this tendency by completely
relaxing
your
throat at moment the insertion is made. It is equally
important
that you maintain this relaxation during the entire deep
throating.
Let him put his cock down your throat
and hold it still
while
you find the most comfortable way to proceed.
Because of
your
position you will not be able to move or to offer him any
greater
stimulation than simply keeping your mouth tightly closed
around
his throbbing cock. If you are able try
to stimulate his
underbelly
with your tongue, do it!
You will only be able to relax and
take his cock in this way
if you
completely thrust your partner. Your
partner is in full
control. He must initiate and maintain all the
motion. This is
the
only exercise in which you relinquish your control of the
situation
to your partner. He will relish this for the simple fact
that
for the first time he can insert his cock as deeply down your
throat
as he wants to. Now your partner begins
an in and out
movement
that is just like fucking. He should
start slowly,
especially
if this is a completely
new
experience for the two of you. After
all if he hurts you he
cuts
himself off from one of the great pleasures in life. His
only
other requirement during this exercise is to keep the motion
in the
same direction throughout this oral exercise as there is
simply
no leeway for him to vary the motion from side to side.
One
other word of caution.
Don't let your partner get carried
away at the moment he
starts
to cum. At that spectacular moment he
will be able for the
first
time to thrust his cock all the way inside your oral cavity
and
that is the most important lesson of this exercise! His only
other
requirement during the exercise is to keep the motion in the
same
against your lips as he cums. Because
of your position in
bed you
will not be faced with the problem of swallowing his cum.
And
this is not just because he has a condom on his dick. The
reason
is because he has gotten his cock BEYOND your gag reflex!
Without
the rubber his cum would shoot directly into your stomach!
If both
you and your partner understand what it is that you are
trying
to do as well as the possible problems that may "cum" up
along
the way no harm or discomfort will happen to either of you.
It is possible that not everyone will
learn the "deep
throat"
technique but this inability does not make you any less a
cocksucker. You must allow your throat to relax
completely while
your
partner is thrusting his cock this deeply down your throat.
To do
this long enough for your partner to completely get it off
is very
difficult and may require practice beyond this day. It
may be
that you will be able to take your partner completely down
your
throat, but you will not be able to maintain proper
relaxation
of your throat to until he shoots his load.
Hopefully
your
partner will understand that this is not a rejection of him
or of
what he is offering you, and it is my sincere desire that
you not
stop here and think that you will never master the "deep
throat"
technique.
Continue to practice this lesson. I
know couples who have
devoted
ten months to this lesson alone.
Continue to practice
this
technique because your practice will allow you to take his
cock
deeper into your throat each time and for longer periods of
time. Ultimately you will succeed. If you have the desire you
will
get this one down pat!
LESSON
NINE
Now lets turn to another portion of
your partner's anatomy
which
should not be ignored-the family jewels. Here are two
objects
which can enhance your partner's feelings more than any
other. Many people do not think of the balls as
primary sexual
objects.
Many men are extremely sensitive and just as in lesson
eight
there must be a certain amount of trust built up between the
two of
you before he will willingly let you have undisputed use of
these
two pearls of delight!
For today's lesson begin by gently
licking his balls with
your
tongue. As your partner becomes more trusting you may begin
to play
with his nipples with your fingers gradually increasing or
decreasing
the intensity as you gauge how he is responding. You
may
want to gently caress his cock with your hand while you are
bathing
his balls with your tongue.
Remember that the balls are extremely
sensitive to pain and
he will
lose his trust in you if you do not respect any limits he
places
on them just as you have the right to place limits on the
back of
your throat until you are completely ready to receive him.
It is possible once you have built up
this trust to take
both
his balls in your mouth. He will be more receptive to this if
you
thoroughly wet them with your tongue prior to taking them into
your
mouth. Unless your partner is into the
new fad of complete
body
shaving he will have tiny hairs on his testicles. By giving
the
balls a complete tongue bath prior to taking them into your
mouth,
you will have pressed these hairs down along the surface of
the sac
and will not inadvertently cause pain by pulling on them.
This may seem a small lesson but you
will discover an
entirely
new world of sensations for your partner when you take
the
time to get to know his testicles!
LESSON
TEN
I hesitated to include this into your
lesson plan but
finally
I decided that if you are aware of the safest way to do
this
technique that my responsibility for giving you the tools to
be the
best cocksucker you can be will be satisfied.
Analingus.
Putting
your tongue to his anal opening.
Ass
sucking.
Before you even consider doing this,
make certain that your
partner
is clean. Immediately out of the shower.
Place a piece of
Saran
wrap over the butt. At no time should
your tongue come into
contact
with the anal surface itself.
For this lesson place your partner on
his back with his legs
in the
air and his knees close to his shoulders.
This spreads his
buttocks
apart and allows you access to his butthole.
You are probably under the impression
that actual
penetration
of the asshole itself is necessary for your partner to
receive
the most complete enjoyment of this technique.
Not so
mojo! The nerve endings around the anus itself
have no
discrimination
and you will get him off just as well and as
thoroughly
by licking around the area as if you stick your tongue
up his
butt!
As with some of your other lessons
this technique will not
usually
be enough to get him to cum, but I feel that it is
important
to know all aspects of your partner's body in order to
give
him the most complete pleasure you can.
You may find that
after
many hours of oral pleasure you need to have other areas to
concentrate
on in order to give him the satisfaction he deserves.
Analingus is a powerful stimulant and
when combined with
other
activities such as vigorous hand stimulation on his cock
will
cause a rapid and powerful cum!
LESSON
ELEVEN
For most of our lessons the only thing
required is yourself,
your
partner, and a condom. Maybe some Saran wrap. A plastic glove
or
two. Well, another toy that will
enhance your pleasure is a
mini-
vibrator. For this lesson you may want to start with
your finger.
Then as
you and your partner become more accustomed to each other
you may
find him a little intrigued about the vibrator and what it
can do
for him.
As you are giving head begin a slow
playful search around
his
ass. Many men are particularly sensitive in this
area and it will
enhance
the sensations that your mouth and tongue and throat are
giving
his cock to feel a finger playing with his butt. As your
partner
relaxes and allows you access, gently insert your gloved
finger
into his butt. Go slowly exploring the
velvety sensations
along
the sides of his opening.
When your finger is inside his asshole
completely you will
be at
the area of the prostate gland. Massage
of this gland by
your
finger will produce some of the most delightful sensations
your
partner has yet to experience. I
remember going to the
doctor
for a physical the first time I felt this sensation. I
could
hardly wait to get home and have my partner try it out on me
again. While it was a bit embarrassing to cum in
the doctor's
office,
the feelings that the doctor inadvertently produced were
so
strong that I wanted to experience them again and again!
A gloved finger is really all that is
required for this
lesson.
However some members of the Cocksuckers Club of America
report
to me that a mini-vibrator works exceptionally well for
this
type of stimulus. It is just the same length as the average
finger
and due to the vibrations that it produces the sensations
against
the prostate gland are even more enhanced!
If your partner likes this stimulation
you must then
discover
which method he likes best. Some men prefer an in an out
movement
with the finger or the vibrator while others do not. I
personally
find this painful--too much like a stab in the dark. I
prefer
the finger or vibrator to be placed against the prostate
gland
and left there to do its most. Whichever method your partner
prefers
is the one you should use.
One other point. When your partner
cums there will be a
natural
tendency for him to push the finger or vibrator out of his
asshole. The asshole muscles are spasming and
anything in the way
will be
forced out. But to maximize his
pleasure you must not let
this
happen. Hold your finger or the vibrator firmly in place--
this
will help to stimulate the sperm production to its maximum.
Many people have questioned me about a
vibrator around the
cock
itself. Does it add to the sensation or
not?
It does for my partner, it does not
for me. That seems to be
the
consensus of opinion of other readers of FRENCH CUISINE
MAGAZINE
as well. I suggest as long as you have the vibrator handy
anyway,
try it around the penis. When you are
licking his balls.
When
you are licking his asshole. If he gets
off on it, then feel
free to
use the vibrator around his dick and balls.
If he hates
the
sensation obviously don't try it again.
LESSON
TWELVE
There are times when you will want to
get him off in a
hurry! I always say that Southern boys learn this
one first and
then
expand their repertory from that point. But because I want
you to
become an expert at all aspects of oral lovemaking I
deliberately
waited until now to introduce this technique.
It
differs
from lesson four in that you are a more consummate
cocksucker
now. He will love it all the more if he
realizes that
this is
not the only trick you have down your mouth!
It is a very simple technique and if
you understand your
partner's
basic cock anatomy you will grasp this one easily.
Place
your lips around the head of your partner's cock and twirl
your
lips wetly and gently around the coronal ridge at the back of
the
head of his penis. This does not
require any great
cocksucking
skill and it works simply because this is the area
that is
most sensitive on your partner's cock.
It is not necessary to be a skillful
cocksucker. All that
is
necessary is for you to find the most sensitive area around the
coronal
area. By sucking on this area of his
cock continuously
you
will produce a quick powerful cum. It
is not necessary to bob
your
head up and down on his cock to get him off.
One other use
of this
technique is to get him hard again after he cums and you
will
soon find him rip roaring to go
again.
LESSON
THIRTEEN
Don't be surprised if you find
yourself going back to this
lesson
for seconds. We discussed briefly at
the end of lesson 12
a
technique to get him going again if he has recently cum. Today
after
you have gotten your man off, let's concentrate on some
techniques
to get him back on again. Not just to
get him hard but
to keep
him hard. Hard enough to want to cum
again!
After he has cum you may need other
techniques to keep him
hard
and to keep him interested. Many men
(not all but a good
portion
of us) are exhausted by a single cum and while it is
possible
to get your partner up again you have a long way to go
before
you get him to cum again.
Cocksucking alone at this time is
usually not enough to get
him
off. You will need to combine some of
the techniques you have
learned
earlier with your basic cocksucking technique to stimulate
the
juices for a second and third go around. Don't hesitate in
your
exploration of his body at this time. His nipples, his balls,
his
asshole. His armpits. His earlobes.
For the second cum you are free to
really get into his body
and
explore all those erotic areas that you missed when you were
concentrating
on his cock exclusively. His
navel. His toes.
One of the things I find most exciting
about the second cum
is the
lack of expectation that you must get him to climax within
a
certain time frame. You have all the
time in the world to
really
give his total body a complete tongue bath.
You can
explore
his body safely and completely and really get to know the
total body
as well as you know his delightful dick!
This is
merely
a sign that you are becoming a true connoisseur of
cockflesh. A title I am proud to hold.
LESSON
FOURTEEN
Soixante-Neuf
Sixty
Nine
Sixty nine is not always the perfect
way to provide your
partner
oral satisfaction. Inadvertently one of you will "let up"
your
end of the cocksucking in order to experience the subtle
pleasures
the other partner is giving you. For
this reason I have
included
it as the final lesson. Many people think that the deep
throat
technique is the ultimate pleasure you can give your
partner.
Actually I believe that sixty-nine is the ultimate
pleasure.
Done correctly and unselfishly when
both of you are
completely
in tune with each others innermost desires, the sixty
nine is
the ultimate. But because of the problem mentioned earlier
in this
lesson, most people practice it too early and it becomes
an
intensely satisfying experience for one partner at the expense
of the
other. When you are completely on each
other's wavelength
you
will discover that this is the most effective way of giving as
well as
receiving pleasure.
The element that must be in place is
simple: Both of you
must
be
consummate cocksuckers! If you have a
partner who is not in
the
least interested in giving head and only likes to receive it
then to
attempt sixty-nine is to ask for unhappiness in your
relationship.
TECHNIQUES
As editor of FRENCH CUISINE MAGAZINE I
sometimes send out
questionnaires
to our members to find out more. I
question them
about
their desires, and their favorite ways to practice safe and
sane
oral sex
Here are some of the most popular
variations on cocksucking.
THE BUTTERFLY FLUTTER
The best position for this very
sensuous cocksucking
movement
is kneeling over your partner. If he is on his back kneel
between
his legs. Or kneel in front of your partner while he
stands.
I like this position because the cock feels thicker in
your
mouth and throat and you have complete freedom to play with
his
balls while performing this maneuver.
This technique was first introduced to
me by a cocksucker in
northern
California. There was a notorious movie theater in
downtown
San Francisco with a darkened balcony.
A cocksucker's
haven.
And this guy had us lined up. You knew
from the moans
emanating
from the guy's throat who was getting his cock sucked
that
this guy was that one in a thousand who knew how to please a
variety
of fresh cockmeat. It felt so good that
I studied him
closely
while he was sucking cock. Not only did I observe the guys
who
were getting the radical suck, but I got down close to the
cock
and observed how he was maneuvering around it. He created the
basic
vacuum pressure on the cock but only enough pressure to pull
the
cock into his mouth ever so slightly.
With his lips firmly wrapped around
the guy's big swollen
cock
head and shaft he would gently flick the tip of the cock with
his
tongue. With his lips open around the
cock at a depth so that
he
could touch the tip of the cock with the tip of his tongue.
With
his lips around the cock shaft he would make an up and down
movement
with his tongue. He would flutter his tongue up and down
the tip
of the cock.
I recommend you try it. It will drive
your Butterfly Flutter
partner
back into your mouth at any hour you want him there. After
several
minutes of this continue with the basic vacuum suck.
THE TRAVELING FIGURE EIGHT
After you have become comfortable with
the basic vacuum suck
and you
have become accustomed to his cock deep in your mouth and
throat,
try this action. It is guaranteed to take his
breath
away. With your lips firmly wrapped
around the cock shaft
try
very slowly to reach the base of the shaft or as close to it
as you
are comfortable. Your nose should be
buried in or at least
touching
the pubic hairs at the base of the cock.
With your nose trace a figure eight as
if the figure eight
were
lying on its side. Your figure eight
motion should be three
to four
inches long. Slowly travel up the shaft
of the cock to
the
head, doing the figure eight motion. Keep doing this motion
and let
your lips firmly travel up and down the cock shaft. Do
this
for as long as you are comfortable with it. Believe me your
man is
floating in orbit as his wildest dreams of the ultimate
blowjob
are coming true.
I give credit for this most erogenous
technique to a member
of
"The Cocksuckers Club of America" who lives in Oregon. He and
his
partner were on vacation down in Southern California and they
visited
me while here. After seeing him scrape his partner off the
ceiling
when he did the Traveling Figure Eight, I rushed right
into my
bedroom and perfected it on my own partner!
When you get
tired
of the movement slow down and return to the basic vacuum
suck.
By this time you are becoming more and
more confident with
your
partner. His cock feels great as it fills your mouth and
throat. The cock is becoming harder and warmer as
your warm moist
mouth
and throat create friction by going up and down that big
beautiful
cock. It is time to cool his tool just a little with
this
technique.
I take full credit for this one
myself! From the time I hit
puberty
I was fascinated by cocks. Big ones, little ones, cut
ones,
uncut ones, crooked ones, straight ones. All shapes, all
sizes.
I wanted to feel them down my throat!
Combine this very
basic
love of cocksucking with an inherent fear of not being able
to take
cock and completely satisfy the customer and you can
imagine
how I felt. I needed a technique that would feel good in
my
mouth and would feel good for my partner. Here's what I came up
with:
Go down on the cock shaft as far as
you are comfortable. All
the
while your lips should be firmly wrapped around the shaft.
Open
your mouth as wide as you can and suck in as much air as your
lungs
will hold. While sucking in air let your open mouth travel
up to
the cock head. Your up stroke motion
should end at the head
of his
cock just as your lungs fill with air. Now with your mouth
still
open let the air in your lungs out slowly through your mouth
as your
opened mouth travels back down the cock shaft. This
technique
cools the cock on the up stroke and warms the cock with
your
hot breath on the down stroke. Do this movement as long as
you
like then return to the basic vacuum suck method.
CONGRATULATIONS!
You are
doing just fine and he loves it!
Keep it
up as long as you are comfortable with it.
For his added pleasure and to give you
something to play
with
reach up and fondle his balls. Or go up
even further and
play
with his nipples. This will give him something else to
concentrated
on so he doesn't pop his cock yet. If
you feel he is
about
to cum stop what you are doing and let him cool off for a
few
minutes. After all you are having fun
and you want to enjoy
his
cock as much as you can until you get tired of it. Then let
him pop
his cock! But not yet. He likes it too much and he wants
it to
last as long as you can keep it going.
THE CIRCLE
Place his stiff cock inside your mouth
but do not tighten
your
lips around the shaft. With your head begin a circle motion.
The
cock will slide to different places in your mouth as you
continue
the circle motion. Watch your teeth on this one.
A kneeling position will suffice but
it is also effective
when
your partner is on his back and your head is directly over
his cock.
The circle should be executed in both clockwise and
counterclockwise
motions in a slow purposeful manner.
THE LOLLIPOP LICK
With your man sitting in an elevated
position and you on
your
knees in front lift his hard cock to reveal his balls. With
your
tongue, find the underside of his balls. Now, while resting
his
balls on your wet tongue, lick in an upward motion to the very
tip of
his cock. It is permissible to use your hands in this
technique.
It is better to do this technique several times in
succession-like
licking a lollipop or ice cream cone.
There
you go!
Enjoy!
;)
--
Lisa M.
Rabey
Internet
and Computer Consultant
San
Francisco, California
http://the.art.of.sekurity.org/simunye
**************************************
General
man-hating bitchy "i know more than you" chick.
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 15:08:42 -0500
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: RACE --- <race@MIDUSA.NET>
Subject: Re: foucault
Patricia
Elliott wrote:
>
>
Who is foucault, is he fun to read.
> p
he's
french. was french. had a bowl of pot
near him to help in his
writing. some think he is hard to read. some think he easy to read.
they
are both liars. he is very different to
read. his history of
sexuality
is interesting in digging through the history of sexual
discourse. madness and civilization was nice for me
given that it was a
similar
treatment concerning notions of insanity and the like.
my
favorite is a small book titled "This is Not a Pipe."
david
rhaesa
salina
kansas
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 15:10:55 -0500
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Patricia Elliott
<pelliott@SUNFLOWER.COM>
Subject: Re: Nice people swallow..
Lisa,
you are
a treasure.
p
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 15:28:24 -0500
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: RACE --- <race@MIDUSA.NET>
Subject: Re: Nice people swallow..
So does
anyone have suggestions or best methods for cleaning off my
computer
screen now?
david
rhaesa
Lisa M.
Rabey wrote:
>
> At
02:48 PM 5/21/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Lisa M. Rabey wrote:
>
>>
>
>> At 09:29 AM 5/21/97 -0400, you wrote:
>
>> >Nice people swallow? I
don't get it...
>
>> >
>
>> >Paul
>
>> >????
>
>>
>
>> erm.
>
>> Its a "joke" that has been running around for along time.
Due to the
>
>> popularity of the "mean people suck" campaign, there has
been variations
>
>> such as "nice people swallow".
>
>> It means, *being sexually explict* swallowing semen when you give
head.'
>
>> Get it now? ;)
>
>>
>
>> ttfn.
>
>> Lisa
>
>> --
>
>>
>
>> Lisa M. Rabey
>
>> Internet and Computer Consultant
>
>> San Francisco, California
>
>> http://the.art.of.sekurity.org/simunye
>
>> **************************************
>
>> General man-hating bitchy "i know more than you" chick.
>
>
>
>perhaps a demonstration would help everyone understand ....
>
>
>
>
Sure! No problem ;)
>
>
HOW TO SUCK COCK - A 14 LESSON TUTORIAL
> WITH
TECHNIQUES FROM SOME OF THE EXPERTS.
>
>
By: Anonymous
>
>
LESSON ONE
>
> I
am not sure if it was because I grew up in a household with
>
brothers or whether I would have had the same feelings and
>
inclinations had I been an only child but I do know that from the
>
time of my earliest memories I have been fascinated with penises.
> Let's talk about the "basic
penis." I regard oral sex as the
>
highest form of expression of love that can be exchanged between
>
two people. Hopefully this information will help you to break down
>
any barriers which you might have that would prevent you from
>
expressing your love in this way and from receiving a
>
reciprocation from your male companion.
> First things first. LOOK at the cock. I do not mean a
>
cursory glance not a hurried, surreptitious examination. Take
>
enough time that you convince your companion that some kind of
>
treat is in store for him provided he will allow you to do with
>
him, and particularly with his cock, exactly what you want.
> Place him flat on his back on your
bed, in a well lighted
>
room. Take his cock in your hand and LOOK at it. He probably will
>
not have the will power to stay soft, but then again you are
>
worshipping his very essence. Few men
can stay soft under these
>
circumstances, when it is apparent that the person LOOKING at his
>
cock is worshipping.
> When you first start to touch him,
his cock will become hard
>
and be in a state where your examination will be meaningful.
>
Wouldn't it be nice if going to the doctor for an examination was
> as
enriching?
> The cock must be hard if you are to
be able to note the
>
important parts-those parts sensitive to stimulation by your lips
>
and tongue.
> The first thing you will note is whether or not he is
>
circumcised. Circumcision is not
universally practiced: there are
>
advantages and disadvantages to penises in both conditions from
>
the standpoint of providing oral caresses that bring the highest
>
kind of delight to your man.
> Next take a close look at the shaft
of the penis itself.
>
There is a bulbous part of the organ near the outer end, slightly
>
larger in diameter than the shaft, which is often called the head.
>
Technically this is the glans penis (comes from the Latin glans
>
which means acorn. Look at it closely;
does kind of look like an
>
acorn doesn't it?)
> The outside perimeter of the glans
penis is the corona. This
>
joins the head to the shaft. This is the most sensitive spot on
>
the penis. It is toward this ridge that you will direct most of
>
your attention when you are giving head.
Follow this ridge around
> to
the underside of the penis. You know that I like to call it the
>
underbelly. I am particularly fond of the underbelly!
> You will notice a point of juncture
where the two ends of
>
this irregular circle come together. If your partner is not
>
circumcised, this will also be the point where the foreskin is
>
attached. This tiny area is easily the
most sensitive spot on his
>
entire body, and it is possible to bring your partner to climax
>
simply by gently tapping the tip of your tongue directly on it.
>
Spend time caressing the glans and those areas immediately
>
surrounding it.
> Beneath the glans is the shaft of the
penis. The shaft does
>
not have many nerve endings and does not, therefore, provide a man
>
with any high degree of stimulation when caressed either manually
> or
with your tongue to the exclusion of the glans penis itself.
> It
always amazes me to note the number of confirmed cocksuckers
>
who believe that sucking up and down on the shaft will get the guy
>
off. That's not it folks! If it works it is because the back of
>
your throat is playing tricks on his glans penis. Your throat is
>
giving head to his head!
> Beneath the shaft are the testicles
(balls, jewels, call
>
them what you like, but let's not ignore their significance). The
>
testicles are extremely sensitive to pain and are not usually
>
considered subject to erotic stimulation to any particular degree.
>
Not true! You can add a high degree of
pleasure for him by paying
>
the right kind of attention to the balls!
> Now lets go back to the shaft of the
matter. The opening in
>
the tip of the glans penis is the meatus.
Here is where the cum
>
spurts. (I could have said semen is ejaculated but I did not want
> to
sound too professional).
> There are other parts of a man's body
which respond with
>
alacrity to oral stimulation.
> Many men are particularly sensitive
around the nipples. The
>
first time I kissed my partner's nipples he shot before I had the
>
chance to even get near his cock. While I have not been able to
>
duplicate this in the laboratory setting (he hates to go near the
>
lab with me) my partner still gets extremely turned on by my
>
lingual nipple caresses.
> So LOOK at your partner's penis.
Study it. Learn its areas
> of
special sensitivity completely and be ready to apply your
>
knowledge to his body with your tongue and with your lips when you
>
bend your loving head over his cock. There is nothing that you can
> do
which more clearly shows your love for him than the worship you
>
can provide his cock!
>
>
LESSON TWO
>
> The sad fact is that most people, men
and women, do not have
>
the slightest idea of how to suck cock. Most seem to think that
>
simply by making a cunt of their mouth, closing it around a man's
>
penis, and bobbing their heads lustily up and down until he
>
climaxes automatically makes them expert cocksuckers. Au
>
contraire!
> Consummate skill is required to suck
a man's cock and
>
provide him with the highest degree of pleasure possible. When I
>
first started my quest I really had no one to turn to for advice
>
and counsel. It was all hunt and suck. Hunt and suck. Find that
>
one technique that could and would set him on fire! I had to
>
learn from my experiences and while I would not want to deny you
>
the innate pleasure that these experiences will bring I would hate
> to
see you lose a great companion because of your inexperience and
>
lack of expertise.
> Let's assume that you have taken that
opportunity to LOOK at
>
his penis. To explore each area of the
penis to find the most
>
sensitive parts. That you have gotten beyond "Parts is parts" and
>
recognize that some parts are more equal than others.
> In order for you to observe your
man's reactions and get the
>
most information possible about his responses try the following:
> While his erect penis points toward
the ceiling, cup his
>
balls in one hand and gently, using only your tongue, lick softly,
>
but carefully along the entire underside of his erect organ. As
>
you suck along the underbelly you will learn those areas that give
>
him the greatest pleasure when your tongue is touching them.
>
Unless he is made of stone, your partner will provide you with
>
vivid clues as to which areas are most pleasurable.
> As you discover these areas of
enhanced pleasure concentrate
> on
them. For most men the most sensitive area will be the point
>
where the ring (or corona) of the head and the foreskin are
>
attached. Or were attached prior to his circumcision. By
>
continued licking and tapping along this area with your tongue you
>
are going to bring forth a geyser. If you are not skilled and you
>
want to please him in a hurry I suggest that you get him off in
>
this manner in order to become familiar at first hand with the
>
nature and delight of his climax.
> As he is getting ready for climax you
will note changes in
>
his penis. These signs will be the same every time he climaxes so
>
that you can prepare for his cum properly. The head of the cock
>
may swell somewhat larger then it is during the normal course of
>
his erection. He may thrust his hips
forward as he wants to send
>
his
>
body hurtling out his cock with his cum. And for most men,
>
immediately prior to the cum, there will appear at the tiny,
>
lovely lips at the tip of the cock a clear drop or two of fluid.
>
When you see this or feel the opening at the meatus through his
>
condom you know that the moment of truth is at hand. Launch the
>
torpedoes, full cum ahead!
> Where should you be when you are
sucking his cock? Between
>
his legs, on top of him, in a sixty nine position? Where?
>
Because of the structure of his penis, as well as the structure of
>
your mouth, lips, tongue, and teeth, you can provide the highest
>
degree of sensation to yourself and your partner by kneeling
>
between his legs and approaching his cock from the bottom rather
>
than from the side or the top. Don't believe me? Try the various
>
positions (I describe in later chapters techniques to be used with
>
each position). See what works best for you and your partner.
>
>
LESSON THREE
>
> Place his stiff cock inside your
mouth but do not tighten
>
your lips around the shaft. With your head begin a circle motion.
>
The cock will slide to different places in your mouth as you
>
continue the circle motion. Watch your
teeth on this one. A
>
kneeling position will suffice but it is also effective when your
>
partner is on his back and your head is directly over his cock.
>
The circle should be executed in both clockwise and
>
counterclockwise motions in a slow purposeful manner. I found many
>
guys in New York who seem to prefer this technique above all
>
others. I met one guy who could circle a cock for hours and I
>
found myself having multiple orgasms while his mouth circled my
>
cock. I didn't lose my hard-on after each cum.
When the technique
> is
performed correctly it means many hours of unadulterated
>
pleasure.
>
>
LESSON FOUR
>
> With your man sitting in an elevated
position and you on
>
your knees in front of him lift his hard cock to reveal his balls.
>
With your tongue find the underside of his balls. Now, while
>
resting his balls on your wet tongue, lick in an upward motion to
>
the very tip of his cock. It is
permissible to use your hands in
>
this technique. It is bettor to do this
technique several times
> in
succession-like licking a lollipop or ice cream cone. I grew up
>
down south. And one thing about southern boys, we learn early how
> to
get if off quickly when the need is there. And the lollipop
>
lick is the one technique in this book which few men can tolerate
>
for long periods of time without cumming.
>
>
LESSON FIVE
>
> Right now lets discuss a technique
that is probably the
>
most common cocksucking technique in the world. Take his cock in
>
your mouth but not deeply. We will get
to deep-throating later
>
on. It's great, not over-rated, but if
you want to be an expert
> at
deep throat start with the right techniques and work your way
>
down, so to speak.
> Take his cock in your mouth by
sliding your moistened tongue
>
lovingly over the head until your lips close around the shaft at
>
the point just behind the corona. Don't
just open your mouth and
>
close it around his cock. Slide it in. He will enjoy it much more.
> Encase the shaft of his penis with
your hand. Remember the
>
shaft is relatively insensitive to any kind of stimulation. By
>
enclosing his penis with your hand you give him the sensation of
>
having his penis encased.
> Now you have several options. Try twisting your head from
>
side to side making sure your moist lips stay in contact with the
>
coronal ridge. While doing this gently
move your hand up and down
>
the shaft. When he climaxes he may want
to push your head further
>
down the shaft of his penis. He wants to envelop you with his
>
cock. As you are learning his climax you will miss the fine points
> if
you deep throat at this time. Instead
gently suck around the
>
corona as he climaxes so that you can intensify his pleasure and
>
increase the force of his orgasm.
> As you gain more experience you will
be able to tell exactly
>
when his climax is approaching and you will be ready for that
>
initial spurt out the rubber.
>
>
LESSON SIX
>
> There is one further refinement to
this basic technique
>
which will heighten his orgasm. If you place your thumb at the
>
very base of the penis in such a way as to block the tube through
>
which the cum spurts, the semen cannot escape even though he is
>
spasming and going through the reflex action of ejaculating semen.
> If at the same time you suck
vigorously on the head of his
>
cock you can delay his cum for several long moments. When you
>
finally allow the cum to spurt it will last much longer and be
>
just as intense as a result. Even
though you delay the cum for
>
only a few short moments you will be surprised by the intensity of
>
his cum.
> These techniques are the basis of
cocksucking. Do not go
>
beyond them until you have become an expert, not only in the
>
techniques themselves, but also in the reading and interpreting of
>
your partner's responses to such a point that you know exactly how
> he
is getting off on what you are doing.
When you have reached
>
this point, you are ready for the more subtle, more advanced
>
techniques.
> Don't be so slavish that you miss out
on the fun of self
>
discovery. Find out what works for you and for your partner and
>
make your cocksucking as individual as your signature. After all,
>
you want your man to pick you out in the dark among hundred
>
slobbering cocksuckers.
>
>
LESSON SEVEN
>
> One of the first things you
encountered when you first
>
started to suck cock was a gag reflex.
Most men seem to want to
>
force their cocks down your throat as far as they can get it.
>
Particularly at the moment when they cum!
> Consider for a moment that the
average length of your oral
>
cavity is three to three and a half inches while the average
>
Caucasian cock length is five to five and a half inches. The laws
> of
nature would seem to dictate that getting all that cock into
>
your mouth is an impossibility.
> It can be done. You probably know
someone who can do it and
>
that is why you purchased this book to begin with. It is possible
> to
master the necessary technique. I don't
want to be boring, but
> if
you understand your anatomy you will begin to understand the
>
requirements that allow you to take his hard cock into your mouth
>
and down your throat. The biggest
obstacle to taking all of his
>
cock down your throat is the fact that there is a bend of almost
>
ninety degrees behind your tongue leading down into your throat.
> So
the first thing to do is get the cock past that angle.
>
>
Get past the angle of the dangle!
>
> In order to practice this, get in a
position where you can
>
turn your head in such a way that your mouth and throat lie almost
> in
a straight line. The best position to accomplish this is to lie
> on
a bed so that your head is near the edge with your body
>
sprawled across the bed so that your head is tipped sharply back.
>
This position will put your mouth and throat nearly in a line and
>
will allow your partner to approach you in such a way that
>
insertion of his cock can be made so deeply that his pubic hair
>
presses against your lips.
>
>
LESSON EIGHT
>
> Today we will practice mastering
physical reaction that must
> be
alleviated before the art of deep penetration can fully be
>
enjoyed. The natural tendency of the body to gag when a foreign
>
object such as a deeply thrusting cock being forced down your
>
throat. You can overcome this tendency
by completely relaxing
>
your throat at moment the insertion is made. It is equally
>
important that you maintain this relaxation during the entire deep
>
throating.
> Let him put his cock down your throat
and hold it still
>
while you find the most comfortable way to proceed. Because of
>
your position you will not be able to move or to offer him any
>
greater stimulation than simply keeping your mouth tightly closed
>
around his throbbing cock. If you are able
try to stimulate his
>
underbelly with your tongue, do it!
> You will only be able to relax and
take his cock in this way
> if
you completely thrust your partner.
Your partner is in full
>
control. He must initiate and maintain
all the motion. This is
>
the only exercise in which you relinquish your control of the
>
situation to your partner. He will relish this for the simple fact
>
that for the first time he can insert his cock as deeply down your
>
throat as he wants to. Now your partner
begins an in and out
>
movement that is just like fucking. He
should start slowly,
>
especially if this is a completely
>
new experience for the two of you.
After all if he hurts you he
>
cuts himself off from one of the great pleasures in life. His
>
only other requirement during this exercise is to keep the motion
> in
the same direction throughout this oral exercise as there is
>
simply no leeway for him to vary the motion from side to side.
>
>
One other word of caution.
>
> Don't let your partner get carried away at the moment he
>
starts to cum. At that spectacular
moment he will be able for the
>
first time to thrust his cock all the way inside your oral cavity
>
and that is the most important lesson of this exercise! His only
>
other requirement during the exercise is to keep the motion in the
>
same against your lips as he cums.
Because of your position in
>
bed you will not be faced with the problem of swallowing his cum.
>
And this is not just because he has a condom on his dick. The
>
reason is because he has gotten his cock BEYOND your gag reflex!
>
Without the rubber his cum would shoot directly into your stomach!
> If
both you and your partner understand what it is that you are
>
trying to do as well as the possible problems that may "cum" up
>
along the way no harm or discomfort will happen to either of you.
> It is possible that not everyone will
learn the "deep
>
throat" technique but this inability does not make you any less a
>
cocksucker. You must allow your throat
to relax completely while
>
your partner is thrusting his cock this deeply down your throat.
> To
do this long enough for your partner to completely get it off
> is
very difficult and may require practice beyond this day. It
>
may be that you will be able to take your partner completely down
>
your throat, but you will not be able to maintain proper
>
relaxation of your throat to until he shoots his load. Hopefully
>
your partner will understand that this is not a rejection of him
> or
of what he is offering you, and it is my sincere desire that
>
you not stop here and think that you will never master the "deep
>
throat" technique.
> Continue to practice this lesson. I
know couples who have
>
devoted ten months to this lesson alone.
Continue to practice
>
this technique because your practice will allow you to take his
>
cock deeper into your throat each time and for longer periods of
>
time. Ultimately you will succeed. If you have the desire you
>
will get this one down pat!
>
>
LESSON NINE
>
> Now lets turn to another portion of
your partner's anatomy
>
which should not be ignored-the family jewels. Here are two
>
objects which can enhance your partner's feelings more than any
> other. Many people do not think of the balls as
primary sexual
>
objects. Many men are extremely sensitive and just as in lesson
>
eight there must be a certain amount of trust built up between the
>
two of you before he will willingly let you have undisputed use of
>
these two pearls of delight!
> For today's lesson begin by gently
licking his balls with
>
your tongue. As your partner becomes more trusting you may begin
> to
play with his nipples with your fingers gradually increasing or
> decreasing
the intensity as you gauge how he is responding. You
>
may want to gently caress his cock with your hand while you are
>
bathing his balls with your tongue.
> Remember that the balls are extremely
sensitive to pain and
> he
will lose his trust in you if you do not respect any limits he
>
places on them just as you have the right to place limits on the
>
back of your throat until you are completely ready to receive him.
> It is possible once you have built up
this trust to take
>
both his balls in your mouth. He will be more receptive to this if
>
you thoroughly wet them with your tongue prior to taking them into
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 16:38:58 -0400
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: "Tiffany N. Merriman"
<MoonStarr9@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: "a baneful influence"
Oh,
come on. Mean people suck...Where's
your sadistic, cynical nature?
People
suck is a better statement. So don't be
tempted to join those damn
optimists
who post smiley faces on every remaining square inch of property.
Be a mysanthrop. It's fun.
=========================================================================
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 17:06:39 -0400
Reply-To: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List"
<BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Sender: "BEAT-L: Beat Generation
List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From: Ginny Browne <NICO88@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: foucault
In a
message dated 97-05-21 17:02:41 EDT, you write:
> my
favorite is a small book titled "This is Not a Pipe."
oh oh.
like the Magritte painting, no?