else.  I write not as a job but because I have to and I love to and I read

and do slams because I love to hear others' stuff as well.  So, in that

spirit, here's a work I hope is at least in some small way appropriate for

this list.  It's a gamble I suppose.  Thanks for reading.

 

--John

 

 

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*The Old Man from Kansas*

 

(for W.S.B)

 

 

As the Greyhound wheezed through Lawrence,

I remembered the old man

rocking on the front porch

cats splayed out at his feet

his cane nestled in the arm of his chair

and his long bony fingers polishing the smooth black barrel

of an automatic pistol.

 

He lifted his head slowly

and his eyes slid out from underneath

the snap brim of an ancient felt hat.

His voice, when it came,

was a whisper of gravel

filtered through all the junk in the world.

 

"Let me tell you about fucking boys, son.

Let me tell you about the peircing tightness

that enters you through your veins

and rushes through your blood like electric current.

It hits you like a snakebite and you know the future

and you push against the sweet hardness

of a bony back wet with sweat and the dirt of

innumerable corners and alleys.

 

And below you,

from somewhere underneath your stomach

but still connected to you

you hear the gasp that slowly

turns to a cry.

 

And you can feel the back heave in tears.

And you move in a time reserved only for the animal

or the paranoia of pure speed.

And the young cry beneath you seeks to fall

but you're holding it up as you pierce it,

the ass not soft at all, but bony, tight, hot, alive."

 

And the old man almost managed a smile

his teeth still hidden between the two white lines of chalk

that marked where his lips should have been.

 

"Yes, son, there is nothing in this world

like the feel of a fifteen year old Tangerian boy

melting underneath you as you drown him.

Dark, small, willing to bear anything at all

for your moment, your visit with death.

 

Pederasty ain't a hobby son, it's a habit.

Harder to kick than junk.

It's all of them, boy.

The pure loss of the opium pipe

the rush of uncut smack

the warm giddiness of tea

the brutal determination of bennies

and even the unspeakable waves of the indian's yage.

 

There are three moments in this life, son.

The moment of entrance:

       the first push, breaking into the warmth

       like a needle finding a long lost vein.

The moment of explosion:

       the coexistence of pure light and pure darkness

       the forever banned pleasure that can save the world

And then there is that final moment:

       tired, sad, blindingly real.

       When the sun rises and the angel is still there

       next to you, in a tortured peace, curled like a baby

       and shrivelled like an old man who has long since died.

 

To know those three moments,

To live them over and over

To fire those shots of absolute solitude

in a world of madness

is to be alive.

 

Let me tell ya, bout fucking boys son.

Let me tell you about fucking boys."

 

And his eyes went down to the barrel of the gun.

And he lost himself deep in an asshole of the past.

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Subject:      Miss Green (a poem while smiling!)

 

Alone in winter.

 

The torn pocket of my flimsy coat

seems to be the entrance for wintery chills

my stomach hurts

my head hurts

my nose is blocked

my fingers and toes are frozen.

What i need is a hot drink

open fire

and the comfort of a beautiful woman

to warm me up

and scare those winer chills away.

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Date:         Sun, 13 Jul 1997 02:02:27 -0700

Reply-To:     Diane Carter <dcarter@TOGETHER.NET>

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Subject:      Cody: Joan Rawshanks in the Fog

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The actual watching

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Date:         Sun, 13 Jul 1997 02:36:26 -0700

Reply-To:     Diane Carter <dcarter@TOGETHER.NET>

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I apologize for my first post with this title which sort of mailed itself

on its own before I was ready.

 

This is definitely the best part of the book, where to some extent we are

told of what Jack is doing and why.  The "watching Joan Rawshanks in the

Fog" part of the section, gets a little long, not unlike watching a movie

being filmed, where the same scene is shot, over and over again. The best

stuff starts on page 292,

 

"A night I spent in Denver...I had just suddenly realized...that nothing

in the world matters; not even success in America but just void and

emptiness awaits the career of the soul of a man."

 

This part is somewhat reminiscent of the burdened writer that no one

understands, he doesn't make any money and none of publishers want

anything to do with him.  It leads into what Denver and Cody mean to

him, the mythology of it all and how this is presented in several

different visions in this book.

 

Pg. 293

"...in 1947 in fact, right after I met Cody, and had those anticipatory

dreams of me and him drinking and gabbling at bars in the construction

worker night; I came to feel that the alleys, the fences, the streets

were the 'holy Denver streets' I called to them, and just because of this

particular softness, I walked along...

 

down in Denver, all I did was die, I remember, that was my refrain.

 

I said to myself, 'What's the use of being sad because your boyhood is

over and you can never play softball like this; you can still take

another mighty voyage and go and see what Cody is finally doing.' Oh the

sadness of the lights that night!... the great knife piercing me in the

darkness...the night cloud of my dreams rising, and the general brownness

of my salvation..."

 

Once again a lot of brownness and different shades of brown in this

chapter, then pg. 295, perhaps the best illumination of the vision of ths

book, we've had yet.

 

"I've had several visions of Cody, most of the great ones in the middle

of a tea-high and the greatest on jazz tea-high...It was as if he was a

superhuman spirit walking, or that is racing in the flesh sent down to

earth to confound me not only in my actions but in my thoughts: wild,

wild day I suddenly looked from myself to this strange angel from the

other side( this all like bop, we're getting to it indirectly and too

late but completely from every angle except the angle we all don't know)

of Time--which he kept talking about all the time."

 

And I guess we, now, as readers are reading this from the time angle,

farther removed, looking back with different perspectives of which he had

never conceived.  And particularly from the angle that Arthur pointed out

earlier, that now, he has a public that understands, to which his words

are immortal.

 

DC

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Date:         Sun, 13 Jul 1997 12:33:26 -0700

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Subject:      Re: Visions of Cody

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I believe a publisher called New Directions published part of it in 1960.

What parts I don't know but these are the parts that have been identified as

being in the public domain.

 

 

At 11:28 PM 7/12/97 -0400, you wrote:

>Seems I remember something about City Lights turning it down. I think CL has

>become a little hotbed of nepotism

>Charles Plymell

>

>

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Date:         Sun, 13 Jul 1997 03:44:15 -0700

Reply-To:     Diane Carter <dcarter@TOGETHER.NET>

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While Cody has been portrayed as a romantic hero type, especially in

part II, we are now getting more to the heart of the mythology of Cody:

 

pg. 298(vision of Cody in Mexico)

"...looking down to see the steering wheel of that old '37 Ford jalopy we

bucketed down in from Denver over many a dusty bushy mile running roughly

down the spine of the Americas, to see if the wheel held, but actually in

complete possession of all his wits and joys and in fact so completely

and godlike-ly aware of every single little thing trembling like a drop

of dew in the world, or sitting like the antique clinker of a paper

bookmatch on an insignificant green desk somewhere in the world, aware of

the glow of his stomach related to the strength of his father, aware of

myself and Sherman in the backseat high and dumb, and of the kid, the

town, the day, the year, the consequence and time passing us all by, and

yet everything always really all right, that he suddenly glowed up like a

sun and became all rosy as a rosy balloon and beautiful as Franklin

Delano Roosevelt, and said, from way far back maybe ten minutes, an hour

or a year or years ago, 'Yes!'  At that moment I decided never to forget

it (even as it happened); Cody was so great, so good, that I couldn't

believe--he was by far the greatest man I had ever known.  Do you know

that now I realize and look back and see that in the beginning he made

everybody smoke tea so they'd look at him in their original version never

to be repeated kicks?...the bastard sensed it.  Yet he's an angel.  I'm

his brother, that's all.

        But enough of my greatest enemy--because while I saw him as an

angel, a god, etcetera, I also saw him as a devil, an old witch, even an

old bitch from the start and always did think and still do that he can

read my thoughts and interrupt them on purpose so I'll look on the world

like he does.  Jealous, all over.  If's anything he can't stand, Val

Hayes first off said in 1946, is people fucking when he's not involved,

that is, not only in the same room but the same floor or house or world.

 And I discovered he can't stand people talking or putting forth a

thought or even thinking in the same world.  He feels that he's

indispensible to his wife, children, his former wives, me, and the--

that would be Heaven, or Time, or Whatever.  He's afraid of death, very

cautious, cagey, careful, suspicious, wary, half near a thing--out of the

corner of his eye he talks about danger and death all the time..."

 

The Cody we are getting to know is now becoming more complex.  He also

seems to be changing, metamorphosing/transforming into something greater

than the friend, hero, maybe a kind of anti-hero.  The one thing that

doesn't change, however, is the sense that in his presence, "everything

is all right," we are repeated thrown this line over and over again.

The mythology then opens up to Cody and himself as "the noble sons of

great Homeric warriors" (pg. 303) and then to Cody and the three stooges

vision, where he writes, (pg. 306)

 

"I knew that long ago when the mist was raw Cody saw the Three Stooges,

maybe he just stood outside a pawnshop, or a hardware store, or in that

perennial poolhall door but maybe more likely on the pavings of the city

under tragic rainy telephone poles, and thought of the Three Stooges,

suddenly realizing--that life is strange and the Three Stooges

exist--that in 10,000 years--that...all the goofs he felt in him were

justified in the outside world..."

DC

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Date:         Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:14:05 +0200

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        Yuri

        got up on the morning

 

        Yuri has asked me if i existed

        & on the moon had snowed

 

        i have answered all exist

 

        Yuri passed hours

        listened to music on the radio

 

        Yuri The Parrot

        now

        looks at with eyes of lizard

        (without tail)

        in

        the ruined house

        (tacit order of demolition

        next morning)

 

 

---

yrs

Rinaldo.

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Date:         Sun, 13 Jul 1997 18:08:06 -0400

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Subject:      Re: CODY: what murder?

 

Reply to message from kh14586@ACS.APPSTATE.EDU of Thu, 10 Jul

>

>On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Marie Countryman wrote:

>

>> >There have been a couple of references so far to something about Bull and

>> >June and a murder.  Can't find the other references at the moment

>> >but here again on page 186, we have: "...on into August, and in between

>> >June and August everything happened, the murder took place."  Is this

>> >ever explicated?

>> _____________

>> murder of demented stalker of lucien carr by same. forget his name. andy

>> wharhol was right/

>David Krammerer <sp?> or something like that.  The reason Kerouac and

>Ginsberg, I think, went to jail (asylum for Ginsy) and Kerouac got out by

>marrying.  Chronicled, I'm told, in the unpublished (soon to be published

>I thinks I heard somewhere) _And_The_Hippos_Were_Boilded_in_Their_Tanks_.

 

It weas the reason kerouac went to jail; Ginsberg's stay in teh asulym had

to do with Huncke & a few others & stolen property stashed in Allen's

apartment.  If I remeber correctly, Edie Parker's family paid Kerouac's

bail after he married Edie.

 

Diane.

 

--

Life is weird.  Remember to brush your teeth.

--Heidi A. Emhoff

                                                  ek242@cleveland.freenet.edu

                                                  Diane M. Homza

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Date:         Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:09:42 EDT

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Subject:      Early pub. of VofC

 

"Excerpts from V of C" was published in a limited edition of 750 copies

by New Nirections.  For more detailed information consult Charter's

bibliography entry A 9 (Revised ed.).  When I looked for a copy in 1971

or 1972 it was missing from Harvard, Columbia, and the University of

Pennsylvania.

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Date:         Sun, 13 Jul 1997 18:07:13 -0700

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At 08:09 PM 7/13/97 EDT, you wrote:

>"Excerpts from V of C" was published in a limited edition of 750 copies

>by New Nirections.  For more detailed information consult Charter's

>bibliography entry A 9 (Revised ed.).  When I looked for a copy in 1971

>or 1972 it was missing from Harvard, Columbia, and the University of

>Pennsylvania.

>

>

 

Unfortunately this seems to be par for the course.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 00:53:11 -0700

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Subject:      Re: eye heart crane

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Hart Crane (1899-1932)=20

 

              From THE BRIDGE -- Proem: To Brooklyn Bridge=20

 

 =20

                How many dawns, chill from his rippling rest

                The seagull's wings shall dip and pivot him,

                Shedding white rings of tumult, building high

                Over the chained bay waters Liberty--

 

                Then, with inviolate curve, forsake our eyes

                As apparitional as sails that cross

                Some page of figures to be filed away;

                --Till elevators drop us from our day ...

 

                I think of cinemas, panoramic sleights

                With multitudes bent toward some flashing scene

                Never disclosed, but hastened to again,

                Foretold to other eyes on the same screen;

 

                And Thee, across the harbor, silver-paced

                As though the sun took step of thee, yet left

                Some motion ever unspent in thy stride, --

                Implicitly thy freedom staying thee!

 

                Out of some subway scuttle, cell or loft

                A bedlamite speeds to thy parapets,

                Tilting there momently, shrill shirt ballooning,

                A jest falls from the speechless caravan.

 

                Down Wall, from girder into street noon leaks,

                A rip-tooth of the sky's acetylene;

                All afternoon the cloud-flown derricks turn ...

                Thy cables, breathe the North Atlantic still.

 

                And obscure as that heaven of the Jews,

                Thy guerdon ... Accolade thou dost bestow

                Of anonymity time cannot raise:

                Vibrant reprieve and pardon thou dost show.

 

                O harp and altar, of the fury fused,

                (How could mere toil align thy choiring strings!)

                Terrific threshold of the prophet's pledge,

                Prayer of pariah, and the lover's cry,--

 

                Again the traffic lights that skim thy swift

                Unfractioned idiom, immaculate sigh of stars,

                Beading thy path--condense eternity:

                And we have seen night lifted in thine arms.

 

                Under thy shadow by the piers I waited;

                Only in darkness is thy shadow clear.

                The City's fiery parcels all undone,

                Already snow submerges an iron year...

 

                O Sleepless as the river under thee,

                Vaulting the sea, the prairies' dreaming sod,

                Unto us lowliest sometime sweep, descend

                And of the curveship lend a myth to God.

=20

 ----------------

 (NOTE: 1. Wall: Wall Street in Manhattan.)

=20

***

http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~d-gao/crane1.html

***

A Hart Crane web page:

http://unr.edu/homepage/brad/hart/crane.html

***

***

And the story goes on, with the calling to arms of the boy, whose voice

aroused the recruits' enthusiasm and with his successes in the operas of

the whole world beginning in Metropolitan opera of N.Y. thanks to

patronage of the banker coming from Nola (Italy) Mr. Pasquale Simonelli.=20

 

   But beyond the splendid artistic aspects of his career, the tenor

lived his intimate drama. In fact, he had first to overcome the american

mafia's threats, and then was abandoned by the  woman that he loved, who

eloped with his chauffeur. Moreover, while the audience acclaimed

him and the impresarios signed blank contracts with him, he noticed the

first signs of an illness that he would try to hide at any cost, often

covering his mouth with a handkerchief, pretending to wipe the

perspiration, and taking it off blood-soaked.=20

 

The tenor spent the last period of his life in Sorrento, and Naples.=20

***

http://circle.intecs.it/net/enrico.caruso/it_home.htm

***

Renaldo:

It seems to me the Italian version of this Caruso site contains more

information than the | Fran=E7ais | Deutsch | Espa=F1ol | Japanese | PHOT=

OS

| English | versions. Could you determine if that is true?

Thanks.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 02:00:14 -0700

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[props to C. Carter for the original post]

 

Beat-l,

 

culled this from the patti smith list.

 

 

> announcing release of CHRONICLES of DISORDER #3: and the beat generation

>

> $2.95

> ISBN #0-934953-50-3

> please direct all communications w/SASE to:

> Thomas Christian, CHRONICLES OF DISORDER

> PO Box 721, Schenectady, NY 12301

>

> Contents:

>

> CALLING THE TOADS by Ron Whitehead

> HERBERT HUNCKE INTERVIEW by G.J.Bassett, John Carruthers, D.K.Burke

> CUT-UP FOR BURROUGHS by Giovanni Malito

> STEPPING OUTTA JACK KEROUAC ALLEY by Jonathan Hayes

> DAIMONSWEY by Thomas Christian

> DEAR PATTI by Thurston Moore

> ELEGY by Charlie Rossiter

> POSTCARD by Bryan Kieser

> LETTER FOUND IN DHARMA BUMS by t. Kilgore Splake

> CHICKEN LITTLE by Mick Cusimano

> LEAVING LOUISIANA by Michael Eck

> WILLIAM S. BURROUGHS INTERVIEW by Ron Whitehead

> READING BURROUGHS by Al Zostautas

> ALLEN GINSBERG PHOTO by Dan Wilcox

> ST. NEAL OF LARIMER by Kym Fleming

> LETTER TO TRISH by Raoul V. Stober

> JACK KEROUAC AND THE FORTY-NINER DRIVE-IN by Joseph Verrilli

> COLLAGE by Anne Coletta

> HUNKY by Arthur Winfield Knight

> POEM OF A DIFFERENT BEAT by Debora Bump

> BEAT by Stephen Clair Ferguson

> IN REVUE & 2 GREAT BOOKS

> FLYING SAUCERS ROCK & ROLL by Patti Smith

> PATTI SMITH PHOTO by Richard Rymanowski

> CONTRIBUTORS

> CHRONICLES OF DISORDER: submission guidelines, subscription info

> LEFT BANK HOLIDAY and PHOTO by T. Kilgore Splake

> additional photos/art acknowledgements:

> ANNE WALDMAN PHOTOS by Thomas Christian

> HUNCKE PHOTOS by Louis Cartwright courtesy of G.J. Bassett

> HUNCKE WOODCUT by John Carruthers

> PATTI FLYERS courtesy of P.H.T.P. (Mike McHugh)

> FRONT COVER by Tim Nerney @ HI-FI DESIGN

>

> check it out

>

> P.S.

> CHRONICLES OF DISORDER

> is a 48-page quarterly-issued journal/zine that focuses on a different

> topic in each issue. All material within are c and all rights revert back

> to authors. Previous individual issues are available at select retail

> locations throughout North America or by writing to: WATER ROW BOOKS (PO

> Box 438, Sudbury, MA. 01772), or SEE HEAR (59 e. 7th St., NY NY 10003).

> CHRONICLES OF DISORDER

> #1: PATTI SMITH

> #2: JACK KEROUAC

> #3: BEAT GENERATION

> #4: ROLLING STONES

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:46:56 -0400

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The Sheraton Hotel in Lowell has agreed to offer special rates to

those attending the 10th Annual Lowell Celebrates Kerouac! Festival

and Beat Literature Conference. To take advantage of this offer call

the hotel at 508-452-1200 and tell reservations you are attending the

Festival. This is a local promotion DO NOT CALL the Sheraton Worldwide

800 number, they cannot help you.

 

I'm told this is all set, if you have any trouble, let me know.

 

Mark Hemenway

Lowell Celebrates Kerouac!

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:58:10 -0400

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Subject:      Re: Cody: What Murder?

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June was killed accidentally by WSB as he tried to shoot an apple?

water glass? (the details escape me) from her head, a la William Tell.

Seems like I remember this passage in VOC as referring to that

incident, but I could be wrong. Incidentally, a version of this

incident is kind of a motif in the movie version of <<Naked Lunch>>.

 

Mark Hemenway

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:21:53 -0500

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Good morning,

 

I have checked out Visions of Cody and it is due back at the library

soon.  I have carried it with me and felt it many many times.  It has

been in my shoulder bag every day as i walk to the filling station and

read the morning paper to get a sensation of locale.  I have read a few

words here and there, typed a few words, and read many of the posts by

folks who are better readers than i.  today i am getting a book in the

mail from Diane Carter that i will definitely carry with me for at least

a month or two. This book is named Ulysses.  It is buy a man named

James.  Before i trade in Jack for James i felt i would spill my guts on

the impressions this tired Kansan has of the book from carrying it with

me for a bit.

 

Once upon a time there was a man named Jack.  Jack had a peculiar

genetic makeup.  He was born a feeler.  Jack could feel more listening

to a Bobby Thompson home run on the radio than most people feel in an

entire lifetime.

 

Jack noticed early on that other folks didn't feel the way he did.  This

caused him to feel alien sometimes.  Jack was never able to step into

the picture of life because he felt it so more intensely than the others

in the picture.  So Jack watched and imagined words for what was

happening.  This separated Jack even more from the other people and from

the picture of life.  He tried harder to find words for what he saw

because what he saw was the truth and his belief.  This pulled him

farther from the picture because most of the people in the picture

didn't feel, observe or try to describe the picture.  And so as time

went along a cycle develops that Jack keeps feeling more and more deeply

and wants to connect from the separation from the non-feelers by

describing his feelings in words but this just adds to the separation

and he feels this separation more deeply than any it seems.

 

One day he meets a cat named Cody.  Jack is not a cat.  Jack is a feeler

who watches Cat.  Cody shows him how to be in the picture and talk about

it at the same time.  Jack finds the key to life.

 

As time goes on Jack and Cody are not always able to be in the same

picture.  Sometimes Jack slips back to the old ways of feeling outside

the picture instead of feeling with the picture as Cody has taught him

by showing him through Cody's way of living so completely alive.  When

this happens Jack thinks of Cody.  Remembers him totally.  And the

memory of Cody saves Jack's life again.

 

Jack is grateful to Cody.  Many people are grateful but being a feeler

Jack is grateful to depths no one appreciates.  Sometimes his actions

betray his gratitude and this makes Jack feel even more indebted to Cody

because the memories pull him back into the picture after such

misdeeds.

Jack sits down and types to the world the story of a person who -- to

Jack -- is more than a person, who is larger than life, who is Jack's

lifeline into the portrait of the living world.  He types and types and

types.  Then he has a book.  It is called Visions of Cody.  Jack dies.

Visions of Cody is published and so it is a real book.  Everyone now can

see how Cody showed Jack to enter the picture of life and feel and live

at the same time.

 

By carrying this tattered library book around for a few weeks, it seems

that Cody is truly a mythic figure.  He is more than a legend.  He is a

healer and a saviour for those who are caught away from the world and

feel it so intensely that they can't live it.  That is Cody's gift to

Jack.  The book is Jack's gift to Cody.  They both are a gift to us all.

 

david rhaesa

salina, Kansas

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From:  Hemenway . Mark

Sent:  Monday, July 14, 1997 8:47 AM

Subject:  Lowell Hotel

Importance:  High

 

The Sheraton Hotel in Lowell has agreed to offer special rates to

those attending the 10th Annual Lowell Celebrates Kerouac! Festival

and Beat Literature Conference. To take advantage of this offer call

the hotel at 508-452-1200 and tell reservations you are attending the

Festival. This is a local promotion DO NOT CALL the Sheraton Worldwide

800 number, they cannot help you.

 

I'm told this is all set, if you have any trouble, let me know.

 

Mark Hemenway    MHemenway@drc.com

Lowell Celebrates Kerouac!

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IMAGES of KEROUAC '97 - An Open Photography Exhibtion Call For

Photo Entries

 

GUIDELINES

 

The Whistler House Museum of  Art and Lowell Celebrates Kerouac!,

Inc. invite photographers of all ages, experience and media to

participate in an open exhibition of photographic images inspired

by Jack Kerouac or the Beats. Guidelines follow:

1. The exhibition is open to all artists in photographic media

(traditional and non-traditional). Submissions should be of or

inspired by Jack Kerouac, Beat Personalities or Literature, or

Lowell. We will try to display all submissions, however, The

Whistler house Museum of Art and Lowell Celebrates Kerouac!, Inc.

reserve the right to refuse any submission.

 

2. Deadline: All work must be delivered to the Whistler House

Museum of art no later than September 12, 1997.

 

3. An entry fee of $7.00 per work must accompany all submissions.

Checks should be made out to the Whistler House Museum of Art.

 

4. The Exhibition will open at a reception on 2 October 1997 in

conjunction with the opening of the 10th Annual Lowell Celebrates

Kerouac! Festival. The exhibition will run until 31 October 1997.

 

 

5. Photographs must be suitable for installation and must not

exceed 48" in any dimension, including frame. All framing must

include screw eyes and or snap hangars. Glass and clip framing

will not be accepted. Each artists may submit up to three (3)

works.

 

6. Photographs must be hand delivered or shipped prepaid. All work

must be prepackaged in reusable material for return at the end of

the exhibition. Work arriving without sufficient return postage

will be returned collect at the end of the exhibition.

 

7. Unless indicated  NFS by the artist, all work will be

considered for sale at a 35% commission to the Whistler House

Museum.

 

8. Mail submissions to:    Whistler House Museum of Art, 243

Worthen Street, Lowell, MA 01852

 

9. Phone 508-452-7641 for additional information on the photo

exhibition.

 

10. Provide the following information for all submissions:

        a. Artist name address and phone number.

        b. Title of the submission

        c. Size of the submission

        d. Sale price

 

11. For information of the 10th Annual Lowell Celebrates Kerouac!

Festival write to Lowell Celebrates Kerouac!, Inc., PO Box 1111,

Lowell, MA 01853

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Lowell Celebrates Kerouac!, Inc P.O. Box 1111, Lowell, MA 01853

 

 

ANNE WALDMAN TO LEAD ALLEN GINSBERG TRIBUTE AT  LOWELL CELEBRATES

KEROUAC! FESTIVAL

 

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE                   PRESS CONTACT:

JULY 1, 1997                                            Mark

Hemenway:

                                                        Day:

                                                        508-475-9090

                                                        ext 1239

                                                        Evening:

                                                        508-458-1721

 

                                                        PUBLIC

                                                        INQUIRIES:

                                                        1-800-443-3332

                                                        508-458-1721

 

(Lowell, MA)    Ann Waldman, internationally acclaimed poet,

editor and educator will be lead a tribute to Allen Ginsberg at

the 10th Annual Lowell Celebrates Kerouac! Festival,  2- 5 October

in Lowell, MA. Ms Waldman has authored over 30 books of poetry and

has performed in readings around the world. She directed the

Poetry Project at St Mark's Church in the Bowery for over a decade

and  is currently the Director of the Jack Kerouac School of

Disembodied Poetics which she co-founded with Allen Ginsberg.

 

The theme of the 10th Annual Lowell Celebrates Kerouac! Festival

is Jack Kerouac Celebrates Lowell. We will celebrate and  explore

the real and mythic Lowell, Massachusetts that Kerouac brought to

life in his writing.  Kerouac friend, and poet Allen Ginsberg died

this past year and we mourn his loss. This year's festival will

honor the memory and pay tribute to the art of this great American

writer.

 

Before he died at age 46, Jack Kerouac published 24 books

chronicling the lives and adventures of the post war generation in

America. The raw energy and beauty of his prose established a new

standard in American literature. The ideas and way of life that he

wrote about would set the stage for the "rucksack revolution" of

the sixties. Jack Kerouac along with Allen Ginsberg, William S.

Burroughs, Neal Cassady and others, founded the Beat movement in

American literature and culture, a movement that challenged the

rigid social structure of postwar America and eventually led to

sweeping social change.

 

Jack Kerouac was born, raised and remained a native of Lowell

throughout his life. His novels are autobiographical.  5 of his

novels take place in Lowell, and the city is mentioned in

virtually every one of his books. His descriptions of Lowell are

remarkable for their beauty, power and timelessness. Through them,

millions of readers have come to know Lowell as a universal

hometown.

 

Each year, in Kerouac's favorite month of October, enthusiasts

gather from around the world to celebrate his art and to

commemorate his life.

 

Lowell Celebrates Kerouac!, Inc. is a non-profit corporation

dedicated to the celebration, enjoyment and study of Jack Kerouac

and his writings. Whenever possible, events are free, however,

donations are gratefully accepted for continued support of the

annual Lowell Celebrates Kerouac! Festival.. To make a donation,

or to find out more about Lowell Celebrates Kerouac!, Inc., write:

P.O. Box 1111, Lowell, MA 01853.

 

A summary of Lowell Celebrates Kerouac! Events follows:

 

Feature Performance. Legendary performers and poets like  Patti

Smith, Allen Ginsberg, Ed Sanders, Michael McClure, Ray Manzarek,

David Amram. Gregory Corso and Herbert Huncke have appeared during

the festival. This year's tribute to Allen Ginsberg and Herbert

Huncke will feature Ann Waldman.

 

Memorial Mass for Jack Kerouac- A memorial mass for Jack and

Stella Kerouac will be held at the St. Louis Roman Catholic

Church, the parish in which he spent his earliest years.

 

Beat Literature Conference- The University of Massachusetts-Lowell

will present an academic conference on Jack Kerouac and the Beat

writers on Friday, October 3rd at the University's South Campus.

Leading scholars of beat culture and literature will present

papers and ideas in symposia and panels throughout the day.  Ann

Douglas will deliver the Keynote Presentation. For information

contact Professor Hilary Holladay, English Department,

UMASS-Lowell, Lowell, MA 01854.

 

The Jack Kerouac Literary Prize. Emerging and established writers

are invited to submit works of fiction, non-fiction or poetry for

the Jack Kerouac Literary Prize. The winner will receive a $500

honorarium and an invitation to present the winning manuscript at

the October Festival. The Prize is sponsored by Lowell Celebrates

Kerouac!, Inc, The Estate of Jack and Stella Kerouac, and

Middlesex Community College. For guidelines, send a SASE to The

Jack Kerouac Literary Prize, P.O. Box 8788, Lowell, MA 01853.

 

Photo Exhibitions. The festival will feature an exhibition of

photographic works and a gallery talk  by photographer Gordon

Ball, editor of Allen Ginsberg's journals.

 

Open Photography Exhibition . Photographers of all ages,

experience and media are invited to participate in an open

exhibition of photographic images inspired by Jack Kerouac or the

Beats. The exhibition is sponsored by the Whistler House Museum of

Art.  For guidelines, send a SASE to  Beat Exhibition, 243 Worthen

St,  Lowell,  MA 01852.  New Books.  We will celebrate the

publication of Some of the Dharma, and the 40th Anniversary

Edition of On the Road,  by Viking Penguin, the Collected Works of

Herbert Huncke,  and a new history of Kerouac's roots in Nashua

New Hampshire during the festival.

 

Small Press Book Fair- The small press book fair is an opportunity

to sample regional small press publications, and pick-up Kerouac

books- new and rare.

 

Poetry at The Rainbow Cafe- Authors read their works in the

Kerouacian ambience of a neighborhood tavern in "Little Canada."

Everyone is welcome to read their poetry or prose, but time is

limited, please reserve a spot ahead of time.

 

The Kerouac Commemorative- The Jack Kerouac Commemorative is

located in downtown Lowell at the intersection of Bridge and

French Streets, near the former site of his father's print shop.

Selected Kerouac passages, etched in eight red granite pillars,

stand as a living monument to his art.  The symmetrical cross and

diamond pattern of  The Commemorative is a meditation on the

complex Buddhist and Roman Catholic foundations of much of Jack's

writing.

 

Walking Tours- Walking tours of Kerouac sites in Lowell and

Nashua, NH are conducted throughout the weekend. The tours change

each year, but almost always include: Our Lady of Lourdes Grotto,

the Watermelon Man Bridge, the Merrimack River, and many of the

neighborhood sites Jack wrote about.

 

Bus Tours- Bus tours of Lowell and Nashua, NH provide a more

leisurely tour of sites in these two Kerouac cities. Jack

Kerouac's mother and father met and the family, including Gerard

are buried in Nashua.

 

Open Microphone at the Coffee Mill- Sunday afternoons are reserved

for an open microphone reading and performance at the Coffee Mill

in downtown Lowell. Everyone is welcome to read their work. Sip

expresso while waiting your turn at the microphone. .

 

Many other activities are available during the weekend:

 

o       Exhibits of first edition beat publications and

memorabilia.

o       Jack Kerouac's rucksack and other personal items are on

display at the Working People Exhibit, Lowell National Historical

Park.

o       Edson Cemetery. Jack Kerouac is buried in the Edson

Cemetery just south of Downtown Lowell. The cemetery is open from

sun-up to sun-down every day.

o       Music and conversation- There will be many opportunities

throughout the weekend to share your festival experience and

enthusiasm for Jack Kerouac while enjoying a beer at local taverns

and nightspots.

 

For additional information call the Merrimack Valley Convention

and Visitor's Bureau at 1-800-443-3332, or Lowell Celebrates

Kerouac!, Inc 508-458-1721.

 

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:25:48 -0400

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From:         Marie Countryman <country@SOVER.NET>

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dave: wonderfully written, thoughtful, and by no means illiterate.

a fellow 'feeler'

mc

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:40:06 -0400

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From:         Diane De Rooy <Ddrooy@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: An Illiterate Impression of Visions of Cody

 

Very, very cool letter...

 

Some people understand jack only on a soul-to-soul, heart-to-heart level.

Others can't really reconcile what they "feel" for him unless they can put

scholarly structure to these mystical connections.

 

What has really hit home for me in 1997 is the incredibly colorful, complex

tapestry of jack. The drunk, the saint, the madman, the scholar, the leader,

the follower. One moment he's espousing spontaneity as if speaking to

disciples about the path to enlightenment. The next moment he's advancing an

almost turgid scholarly theory differentiating between talent and

originality, and listing off authors who possess these qualities.

 

He has that "nervous intelligence" that goes from earthly to ethereal. Kids

who are 13 or 14, post-graduate types, drinkers and thinkers, so-called

"intellectuals," all read jack, love jack, relate to jack, believe they

understand jack. I don't question them. I just sit in the corner and read and

make notes. My head's too full of images and my soul's too hungry for freedom

to study a dialectic or seek a methodology. Give me illiteracy or give me

dreck... who said that?

 

Hey, I ain't stupid. I just read jack with my heart and soul, not with my

book-learnin. Who the hell is this Joyce dude anyway, and why does he have a

chick's name?

 

hee hee hee hee heeeee

 

ddr

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:54:04 -0400

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Arthur--

 

> This is how it really was, how history is really made before it

> is "history" in the discord and immediacy of the moment.  How do I put it-

> there is both a demystification of a well-established and documented legend,

> and a message that our own  relatively anonymous cosmic huddles have the same

> legendary qualities that we project by popular consensus onto this now-famous

> group.  There's more to this I can't quite get at, it's late and enough for

> now.

 

As usual you're right on with this -- I think a large part of why and how

the Beats became what they are is due to this phenomenon of "secret

histories." I hope you're able to get at -- and post to the list -- more

of this at a later time.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:06:55 -0500

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Marie Countryman wrote:

>

> dave: wonderfully written, thoughtful, and by no means illiterate.

> a fellow 'feeler'

> mc

 

I must say that my comments are illiterate.  it is not an ugly word - it

is an honest word.  i have no background in what is called "literature"

in any form.  my background is in theories of argumentation and

symbolism.  my brain is sort of working backwards in this process moving

from the scholarly and non-scholarly posts which i understand fairly

well and glancing at parts of the book that correlate with the posts

throwing that into the soup of my brain and letting it simmer and then

finally just letting something pop out.

 

these illiterate impressions would not have been possible without the

scholarly posts or without the public library i should add.  to me one

of the most important things in digesting a book is to carry it with me

and touch it a lot and just let it soak inside.  This in combination

with y'alls words and a few of Jack's words forms the basis for a

naive but perhaps insightful impressionistic synthesis of what the

experience meant to me.

 

The synthesis that i found this morning would not have been possible

without the careful and detail dissection of each tidbit by those

patient enough to actually sit down and read a story from start to

finish thoughtfully.

 

Enjoying the way you all unscrew my brain - by the way.

 

your friendly Scarecrow returning from Oz,

 

david rhaesa

salina, Kansas

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:11:28 -0700

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At 10:35 AM 7/14/97 -0400, you wrote:

>

>A summary of Lowell Celebrates Kerouac! Events follows:

>

>

>Memorial Mass for Jack Kerouac- A memorial mass for Jack and

>Stella Kerouac will be held at the St. Louis Roman Catholic

>Church, the parish in which he spent his earliest years.

 

                                July 14, 1997, Bastille Day

 

Dear Mark, Phil, Attila, and other Organizers:

 

        Don't you think it would be proper to have Jan's soul remembered in

this Mass as well, since her remains were just buried in Nashua?

        Best always, Gerry Nicosia

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:30:16 UT

Reply-To:     Sherri <love_singing@MSN.COM>

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From:         Sherri <love_singing@MSN.COM>

Subject:      Re: An Illiterate Impression of Visions of Cody

 

nothing illiterate here at all...  you have cloven the arrow already at the

center of the bull's-eye.  can anything more be said?

 

ciao,

sherri

 

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Sent:   Monday, July 14, 1997 7:21 AM

To:     BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU

Subject:        An Illiterate Impression of Visions of Cody

 

Good morning,

 

I have checked out Visions of Cody and it is due back at the library

soon.  I have carried it with me and felt it many many times.  It has

been in my shoulder bag every day as i walk to the filling station and

read the morning paper to get a sensation of locale.  I have read a few

words here and there, typed a few words, and read many of the posts by

folks who are better readers than i.  today i am getting a book in the

mail from Diane Carter that i will definitely carry with me for at least

a month or two. This book is named Ulysses.  It is buy a man named

James.  Before i trade in Jack for James i felt i would spill my guts on

the impressions this tired Kansan has of the book from carrying it with

me for a bit.

 

Once upon a time there was a man named Jack.  Jack had a peculiar

genetic makeup.  He was born a feeler.  Jack could feel more listening

to a Bobby Thompson home run on the radio than most people feel in an

entire lifetime.

 

Jack noticed early on that other folks didn't feel the way he did.  This

caused him to feel alien sometimes.  Jack was never able to step into

the picture of life because he felt it so more intensely than the others

in the picture.  So Jack watched and imagined words for what was

happening.  This separated Jack even more from the other people and from

the picture of life.  He tried harder to find words for what he saw

because what he saw was the truth and his belief.  This pulled him

farther from the picture because most of the people in the picture

didn't feel, observe or try to describe the picture.  And so as time

went along a cycle develops that Jack keeps feeling more and more deeply

and wants to connect from the separation from the non-feelers by

describing his feelings in words but this just adds to the separation

and he feels this separation more deeply than any it seems.

 

One day he meets a cat named Cody.  Jack is not a cat.  Jack is a feeler

who watches Cat.  Cody shows him how to be in the picture and talk about

it at the same time.  Jack finds the key to life.

 

As time goes on Jack and Cody are not always able to be in the same

picture.  Sometimes Jack slips back to the old ways of feeling outside

the picture instead of feeling with the picture as Cody has taught him

by showing him through Cody's way of living so completely alive.  When

this happens Jack thinks of Cody.  Remembers him totally.  And the

memory of Cody saves Jack's life again.

 

Jack is grateful to Cody.  Many people are grateful but being a feeler

Jack is grateful to depths no one appreciates.  Sometimes his actions

betray his gratitude and this makes Jack feel even more indebted to Cody

because the memories pull him back into the picture after such

misdeeds.

Jack sits down and types to the world the story of a person who -- to

Jack -- is more than a person, who is larger than life, who is Jack's

lifeline into the portrait of the living world.  He types and types and

types.  Then he has a book.  It is called Visions of Cody.  Jack dies.

Visions of Cody is published and so it is a real book.  Everyone now can

see how Cody showed Jack to enter the picture of life and feel and live

at the same time.

 

By carrying this tattered library book around for a few weeks, it seems

that Cody is truly a mythic figure.  He is more than a legend.  He is a

healer and a saviour for those who are caught away from the world and

feel it so intensely that they can't live it.  That is Cody's gift to

Jack.  The book is Jack's gift to Cody.  They both are a gift to us all.

 

david rhaesa

salina, Kansas

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:31:54 -0700

Reply-To:     "Penn, Douglas, K" <dkpenn@OEES.COM>

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From:         "Penn, Douglas, K" <dkpenn@OEES.COM>

Subject:      "to have seen a specter isn't everything..."

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went book shopping in LA this weekend.

 

Aldine Books

4663 Hollywood Boulevard

(1/2 block east of Vermont Ave.)

Los Angeles, CA 90027

(213) 666-2690

 

 

Picked up "first third" by Neal Cassidy for $8 (was marked at $10).

Walked in and asked for Kerouac and the Beats.  Don't know if they have

much of a selection, but the folx behind the counter very helpful.

Asked me to call or drop by if I needed to track down something else.

 

was shopping next door at Wacko!  this great tidbit freak store.  lots

of art, sex, tattoo, insence, nick-nac stuff.  So if you're up in Los

Angeles, make sure and stop buy.  good neighborhood for sex clubs, used

book, record & clothing stores.  and automotive supply stores.

 

and I don't have time to read these days.  don't know why I'm buying all

these books.  Here's a snippet of what I'm missing:

 

To have seen a specter isn't everything

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

by Neal Cassidy

 

        To have seen a specter isn't everything, and there are deathmasks

piled, one atop the other, clear to heaven. Commoner still are the wan

visages of those returning from the shadow of the valley.  This means

little to those who have not lifted the veil.

 

=-=-=-=

I think he's talking about Los Angels.  <<Douglas

 

 

"the map is not the territory"                  babu@electriciti.com

  (Alfred Korzybski)                    www.electriciti.com/babu/

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:44:49 -0700

Reply-To:     "Penn, Douglas, K" <dkpenn@OEES.COM>

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Charles writes:

 

>> Wow! That's incredible. Is that a collage? Do you have a print of it?

 

yep, a collage.  plexi and bunch of things lit upon by scanner.  No

prints currently available.  Seen from this side of photoshop (a graphic

manipulation program).  Personally, I like the circles, the quality of

light, and the different perspectives/interpretations possible.  Glad

you like it  <<that was the point--

 

><<Actually, I must confess I stole that line from som old book  from France I

>believe that were case studies of insane kids. That line stuck in my mind for

>years and I had no way of knowing its documentation, so I did a Dutch

>Schultz/Burroughs borrowing. The credit goes to some poor kid in a maison de

sante many years ago. Let us bless him or her.>>

 

<<blessings>>

>

>> Charles Plymell

 

Douglas

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:01:08 -0700

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Rinaldo,

 

Miget cars are much like Go-Carts.  They are slightly larger and have

sturdy steel-tube frame and a fiberglass body.  The engines are somewhat

powerfull for these little cars (I'd the cars are about the size of a

twin bed?).  They are raced on fairly small, circular dirt tracks.  They

are still raced today.  I'll try to find a bit more information on the

American NASCAR site for you if you'd like.

 

Chris

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:06:29 -0500

Reply-To:     RACE --- <race@MIDUSA.NET>

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> To have seen a specter isn't everything

> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

> by Neal Cassidy

>

>         To have seen a specter isn't everything, and there are deathmasks

> piled, one atop the other, clear to heaven. Commoner still are the wan

> visages of those returning from the shadow of the valley.  This means

> little to those who have not lifted the veil.

>

> =-=-=-=

> I think he's talking about Los Angels.  <<Douglas

>

 

i think he's talking about walking on water across the river styx after

laughing at the hounds from hell.

 

david rhaesa

salina, Kansas

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:55:13 -0500

Reply-To:     Patricia Elliott <pelliott@SUNFLOWER.COM>

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Patricia Elliott wrote:

>

> Hemenway . Mark wrote:

> >

> > June was killed accidentally by WSB as he tried to shoot an apple?

> > water glass? (the details escape me) from her head, a la William Tell.

> > Seems like I remember this passage in VOC as referring to that

> > incident, but I could be wrong. Incidentally, a version of this

> > incident is kind of a motif in the movie version of <<Naked Lunch>>.

> >

> > Mark Hemenway

>

>  it was a drink.  wsb.s preface to Queer is an extraordinary account of

> this. It is some of the strongest and best  prose that i have ever read

> . worth reading, the preface is less than 40 pages long.

> patricia

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:13:24 -0500

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you perceptions and communications are elegant

thank you for being on the list

patricia

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:20:45 -0500

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David's "Two roads diverged" version of Frost's poem reminds me

of the legend of the Burinam ass: the ass was staked on a chain

leash midway between two stacks of hay which were exactly the same

size and quality; the ass starved to death because there was nothing

to lead it to choose one of the equidistant stacks of hay rather

than the other.

The legend was popular during the 18th century (which, I swear, was

before my time) as a critique of the limits of rationality.

A beat but not beaten ass.

Cordially,

Mike Skau

7/14/97

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:36:23 -0400

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From:         Richard Wallner <rwallner@CAPACCESS.ORG>

Subject:      City Lights

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Actually, City Lights repeatedly turned down Kerouac's work and other  beat

works.

 

 Ferlinghetti

refused to publish Kerouac's "Mexico City Blues", even when Ginsberg

offered to pay for the printing costs himself out of his royalties from

"Howl"  I think CL also turned down Gregory Corso's "Bomb" and a lot of

other great beat works.  CL has gotten a lot of mileage out of being

Allen Ginsberg's publisher but when it comes down to it, they were a

business like any other and only wanted to print what would sell.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:25:05 UT

Reply-To:     Sherri <love_singing@MSN.COM>

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From:         Sherri <love_singing@MSN.COM>

Subject:      Re: City Lights

 

I find this very interesting, as now City Lights publishes all or almost of

Kerouac's works now, as well as Corso's and other Beats'; and has a Beat

section all its own on the second floor along with what appears to be

primarily Beat poetry.

 

i had always thought that Ferlinghetti had run City Lights just because of the

lack of publishers who would touch Beat works...  ah well, legends so often

eclipse harsh reality, particularly when it comes to fame & fortune.

 

thanks for the insight.

 

ciao,

sherri

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Sent:   Monday, July 14, 1997 1:36 PM

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Subject:        City Lights

 

Actually, City Lights repeatedly turned down Kerouac's work and other  beat

works.

 

 Ferlinghetti

refused to publish Kerouac's "Mexico City Blues", even when Ginsberg

offered to pay for the printing costs himself out of his royalties from

"Howl"  I think CL also turned down Gregory Corso's "Bomb" and a lot of

other great beat works.  CL has gotten a lot of mileage out of being

Allen Ginsberg's publisher but when it comes down to it, they were a

business like any other and only wanted to print what would sell.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 23:38:08 +0200

Reply-To:     Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

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From:         Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

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                Alice   (song) by Francesco De Gregori

 

Alice guarda i gatti            Alice looks at the cats

e i gatti guardano il sole      and the cats look at the sun

mentre il mondo sta             while the world

 [girando senza fretta          [be turning without hurry

 

Irene e' li' al quarto piano    Irene lives on the fourth floor

lei e' li' tranquilla e         she is there calm

 [si guarda allo specchio       [and looks at oneself in the mirror

e si accende                    and again she catches fire

 [un'altra sigaretta            [a cigarette

 

e Lili' Marlene                 and more beautiful

 [bella piu' che mai            [Lili Marlene that never

lei sorride                             she smiles you

 [non ti dice la sua eta'       [she doesn't tell his age

ma tutto questo                 but all this

 [Alice non lo sa                       [Alice doesn't know it

 

E io non ci sto'                        And I am against it

 [piu' grido' lo sposo          [the bridegroom shouted

e poi tutti pensarono           and then all thought

 [dietro i cappelli             [behind the hats

lo sposo e' impazzito           the bridegroom goes crazy

 [oppure ha bevuto              [or he is drunk

 

ma la sposa aspetta             but the bride is pregnant

[un figlio

e lui lo sa                             and he knows it

non e' cosi' che se ne andra'   it is not as that if he will go away

 

 

Alice guarda i gatti            Alice looks at the cats

e i gatti muoiono nel sole      and the cats die in the sun

mentre il sole                  while the sun gradually draws near

 [a poco a poco si avvicina

 

E Cesare perduto                        And Cesare lost in the rain

 [nella pioggia

sta aspettando da sei ore       he is waiting for 6 hours

 [il suo amore ballerina        [his love ballerina

e lui rimane li'                        and he stays there

 [a bagnarsi ancora un po'      [to get wet a few still

e il tram di mezzanotte         and the midnight bus goes away

 [se ne va

ma tutto questo                 but all this

 [Alice non lo sa                       [Alice doesn't know it

 

 

E io non credo piu'             And I believe

 [i pazzi siete voi             [the crazy persons are you

e poi tutti pensarono           and then all thought

 [dietro i cappelli             [behind the hats

lo sposo e' impazzito           the bridegroom goes crazy

 [oppure ha bevuto              [or he is drunk

 

ma la sposa aspetta             but the bride is pregnant

[un figlio

e lui lo sa                             and he knows it

non e' cosi' che se ne andra'   it is not as that if he will go away

 

 

Alice guarda i gatti            Alice looks at the cats

e i gatti girano nel sole       and the cats walk under the sun

mentre il sole fa                       while the sun makes love to the moon

 [l'amore con la luna

 

e il mendicante arabo           and the Arabic beggar

non ti chiede mai pane          doesn't ask you but

 [mai pane o carita'            [bread or charity

e ancora un posto                       and still a place

 [per dormire non ce l'ha       [for sleep he doesn't have

ma tutto questo                 but all this

 [Alice non lo sa                       [Alice doesn't know it

 

 

 

E io non voglio                 and I don't want

 [piu' grido' lo sposo          [the bridegroom shouted

e poi tutti pensarono           and then all thought

 [dietro i cappelli             [behind the hats

lo sposo e' impazzito           the bridegroom has maddened

 [oppure ha bevuto              [or he has drunk

 

ma la sposa aspetta             but the bride is pregnant

[un figlio

e lui lo sa                             and he knows it

non e' cosi' che se ne andra'   it is not as that if he will go away

 

 

---

yrs

Rinaldo.        *countercultural italian song from the late 70s*

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 18:37:02 -0400

Reply-To:     "R. Bentz Kirby" <bocelts@SCSN.NET>

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From:         "R. Bentz Kirby" <bocelts@SCSN.NET>

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Sherri wrote:

 

> I find this very interesting, as now City Lights publishes all or

> almost of

> Kerouac's works now, as well as Corso's and other Beats'; and has a

> Beat

> section all its own on the second floor along with what appears to be

> primarily Beat poetry.

>

> i had always thought that Ferlinghetti had run City Lights just

> because of the

> lack of publishers who would touch Beat works...  ah well, legends so

> often

> eclipse harsh reality, particularly when it comes to fame & fortune.

>

> thanks for the insight.

>

> ciao,

> sherri

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> From:   BEAT-L: Beat Generation List on behalf of Richard Wallner

> Sent:   Monday, July 14, 1997 1:36 PM

> To:     BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU

> Subject:        City Lights

>

> Actually, City Lights repeatedly turned down Kerouac's work and other

> beat

> works.

>

>  Ferlinghetti

> refused to publish Kerouac's "Mexico City Blues", even when Ginsberg

> offered to pay for the printing costs himself out of his royalties

> from

> "Howl"  I think CL also turned down Gregory Corso's "Bomb" and a lot

> of

> other great beat works.  CL has gotten a lot of mileage out of being

> Allen Ginsberg's publisher but when it comes down to it, they were a

> business like any other and only wanted to print what would sell.

 

This is an interesting thread.  While at Bancroft library, I was able to

view original letters from Kerouac to Ferlinghetti.  There were two

themes.  One was related to the trip to Big Sur and described some of

the incidents protrayed in Big Sur.  The other was a discussion of Book

of Dreams and the cover, liner notes Jack was writing for ( I think) a

Corso book and the fact that Ferlinghetti would NOT publish Mexico City

Blues because he DID NOT consider Jack a poet.  Interesting.  There is

much to be learned from studying the letters and notebooks of a writer

like JK.

 

Peace,

--

 

Peace,

 

Bentz

bocelts@scsn.net

http://www.scsn.net/users/sclaw

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 07:42:06 -0700

Reply-To:     Diane Carter <dcarter@TOGETHER.NET>

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>

> Marie Countryman wrote:

> >

> > dave: wonderfully written, thoughtful, and by no means illiterate.

> > a fellow 'feeler'

> > mc

>

 

> RACE --- wrote:

> I must say that my comments are illiterate.  it is not an ugly word -

> it

> is an honest word.  i have no background in what is called "literature"

> in any form.  my background is in theories of argumentation and

> symbolism.  my brain is sort of working backwards in this process

> moving

> from the scholarly and non-scholarly posts which i understand fairly

> well and glancing at parts of the book that correlate with the posts

> throwing that into the soup of my brain and letting it simmer and then

> finally just letting something pop out.

 

David,

 

Your post was wonderful!  Heartfelt, instinctual, and aimed directly at

the truth of the matter.  Nothing illiterate about it.  A background in

literature may make one more more literary but not more literate.  There

is always a need for a more direct, poignant presentation to balance

people like me who can be overly analytical.

DC

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:03:55 -0700

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David,

 

Absolutely loved your synopsis of VOC.  Am trying to find the words to

describe why I still find this a frustrating-- and in many ways

unsatisfactory-- book.

 

J. Stauffer

 

RACE --- wrote:

>

> Good morning,

>

> I have checked out Visions of Cody and it is due back at the library

> soon.  I have carried it with me and felt it many many times.  It has

> been in my shoulder bag every day as i walk to the filling station and

> read the morning paper to get a sensation of locale.  I have read a few

> words here and there, typed a few words, and read many of the posts by

> folks who are better readers than i.  today i am getting a book in the

> mail from Diane Carter that i will definitely carry with me for at least

> a month or two. This book is named Ulysses.  It is buy a man named

> James.  Before i trade in Jack for James i felt i would spill my guts on

> the impressions this tired Kansan has of the book from carrying it with

> me for a bit.

>

> Once upon a time there was a man named Jack.  Jack had a peculiar

> genetic makeup.  He was born a feeler.  Jack could feel more listening

> to a Bobby Thompson home run on the radio than most people feel in an

> entire lifetime.

>

 . . .

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 22:17:49 -0400

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From:         Pamela Beach Plymell <CVEditions@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: eye heart crane

Comments: To: BOHEMIAN@maelstrom.stjohns.edu, mike@infinet.com

 

In a message dated 97-07-14 02:45:54 EDT, you write:

 

<<    Foretold to other eyes on the same screen;

  >>

There's a good best western now in the fish mkt district. We stayed there

last easter when we met up with s.clay. it's right at the entrance to the

bridge. I recited that poem there where Crane used to take his sailors.

Actually the heart with a heart through it and Crane's name was painted on

the bridge. Not "carved" (how stupid of me) . And it must have been his

mother's ashes; since he walked off the back of a ship. My old Prof. Walpole

in 50's in Kansas joked saying it was because he learned he was hetro. But

Katheran Ann Porter told me that when she lived with Crane in Mexico, he was

always trying to jump off buildings. They were low haciendias, so she wd say

"oh come on down, Hart, you will only hurt yourself.

Charles Plymell

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:27:43 -0700

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Subject:      Re: Literary Dandies

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As for me--never trust someone who isn't something of a "dandy".

Fashion is art too.  Presentation and style just as important in real

time as in poetry.  Jack in his signature plaid shirts, Neal in his well

chosen outfits (be they his first suit or jeans and t-shirt), Ginsberg

in his self-conciously anti-fashion seedy professor look which follows

his demented guru look . . .Plymell, the zoot suited hipster . . .

 

James Stauffer

>

> <<

>  Were you ever much of a "dandy" Charley?  Ever take any interests in

> fashion? >>

>

> Shit. Haven't you seen the photos of me "going to Kansas City in my zoot

> suit? Look at: www.buchenroth.com/cplymell.html and find the photos of me in

> the 50s.

> CP

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:10:37 -0700

Reply-To:     Diane Carter <dcarter@TOGETHER.NET>

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This part is really great!  Beginning on pg. 306 with J quoting T.S.

Eliot "Obviously, an image which is immediately and unintentionally

ridiculous is merely a fancy,"  then writing of the image of Cody taking

a piece of cowdung from the stockyard tracks and laying it out to dry,

surrounded by buzzing flies, leading to this description of paranoia (pg.

307) [of course, by the time you get to this part of the book, you may

actually be lost in paranoia.]

 

"...paranoia preceding reality, reality flurting with paranoia, paranoia

blooming in fresh aridities, flowering in the vale, paranoia's not a cow

palace, paranoia's a possibility remotely to be wished or avoided, let it

go, till it proves it was right all the time when you die, allowing his

mind to make its own fertilizer estimations, or rather estimations by

mental ratio, the sheer-nerve secret in the hole of the brain, the place,

for him to decide what it is happening in the warm world that can also be

cold outside his eyeballs, that will send back to him, by impulses of

electric mystery, the vision, or the insanity, or the actual impulse that

everything is happening exactly as you see it, and that this is a heinus

happenstance there, it bodes no good, the mind doing this, then letting

the soul rebound softly and say 'No, no, everything is really alright,

that was paranoia, that was just a vision.'  Cody allowed himself the

conviction that in the darkness old men lay in wait, which was proved

later when he himself lay in the darkness of the syraw, the paranoia, the

vision, having been just an expression of the truth of things, not the

silly-ass moment of things! of things!  'Eliot's put the ball up in the

air and it's good."  Eliot plays forward for Santa Clara, it's radio

basketball."

 

Then it's all brought to this conclusion:

still pg. 307

"he rolled his hoop past his thought.  But there was nothing ridiculous,

there were no images immediately and sensationally ridiculous; it was

just a matter of believing in his own soul; it's just a matter of loving

your own life, loving the story of your own life, loving the dreams as

you sleep as parts of your life, as little children do and Cody did,

loving the soul of man (which I have seen in the smoke), lilting in your

own breaks to make them good or bad according to the geography of the

day..."

DC

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:19:39 -0700

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At 8:40 AM -0700 7/14/97, Diane De Rooy wrote:

 

> Hey, I ain't stupid. I just read jack with my heart and soul, not with my

> book-learnin. Who the hell is this Joyce dude anyway, and why does he have a

> chick's name?

>

> hee hee hee hee heeeee

 

Ulysses by James Joyce

start of chapter 3, pg37

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

 

Ineluctable modality of the visible: at least that if no more, thought

through my eyes.  Signatures of all things I am here to read, seaspawn and

seawrack, the nearing tide, that rusty boot.  Snotgreen, bluesilver, rust:

coloured signs.  Limits of the diaphane.  But he adds: in bodies.  Then he

was aware of them bodies before of them coloured.  How?  By knocking his

sconce against them, sure.  Go easy.  Bald he was and a millionaire,

<<maestro di color che sanno>>.  Limit of the diaphane in.  Why in?

Diaphane, adiaphane.  If you can put your five fingers through it, it is a

gate, if not a door.  Shut your eyes and see.

 

=-=-=-=-=-=

ugu ug ug I think he's refering to Aldus Huxley?

what's the italian?

can any of u type on t??

god, have a hard time reading

personally,

 

douglas :=x  <<running

 

 

>

> ddr

 

 

http://www.electriciti.com/babu/                let the man come thru

stand up, and let the man come thru             let the man come thru

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:22:15 -0400

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James Stauffer wrote:

>

> David,

>

> Absolutely loved your synopsis of VOC.  Am trying to find the words to

> describe why I still find this a frustrating-- and in many ways

> unsatisfactory-- book.

>

> J. Stauffer

>

> RACE --- wrote:

> >

> > Good morning,

> >

> > I have checked out Visions of Cody and it is due back at the library

> > soon.  I have carried it with me and felt it many many times.  It has

> > been in my shoulder bag every day as i walk to the filling station and

> > read the morning paper to get a sensation of locale.  I have read a few

> > words here and there, typed a few words, and read many of the posts by

> > folks who are better readers than i.  today i am getting a book in the

> > mail from Diane Carter that i will definitely carry with me for at least

> > a month or two. This book is named Ulysses.  It is buy a man named

> > James.  Before i trade in Jack for James i felt i would spill my guts on

> > the impressions this tired Kansan has of the book from carrying it with

> > me for a bit.

> >

> > Once upon a time there was a man named Jack.  Jack had a peculiar

> > genetic makeup.  He was born a feeler.  Jack could feel more listening

> > to a Bobby Thompson home run on the radio than most people feel in an

> > entire lifetime.

> >

>  . . .

 

James:

 

Don't get scared here, but I agree.  When I read VoC years ago, I wore

it out.  Many creases etc in the spine.  I studied it.  I read slow like

that and try to get the picture.  Here, I do not quite get it.  I

appreciate that Cody rose above a dismal life in Denver selling fly

swatters.  He read philosophy in the library.   I suppose Jack was

impressed with Neal's mind and self education.  But is that a true

picture?

 

I get the feeling Jack is an impressionist painter here, just not up to

par with some other things he has done.  What is he going for here?

Where and why is he choosing this course.

 

 

I am hopelessly bogged down in Part II.

 

Next, how about some Proust?

 

I think it is like You Can't Go Home Again and The Web and the Rock,

unfinished works that leave one wanting the greatness that is partially

revealed full flung.

 

So, I am not sure I will finish Cody this second time.  But I tried.

--

Bentz

bocelts@scsn.net

 

http://www.scsn.net/users/sclaw

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:38:12 -0400

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From:         Pamela Beach Plymell <CVEditions@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: An Illiterate Impression of Visions of Cody

Comments: cc: BOHEMIAN@maelstrom.stjohns.edu

 

In a message dated 97-07-14 10:47:41 EDT, you write:

 

<<  That is Cody's gift to

 Jack.  The book is Jack's gift to Cody.  They both are a gift to us all. >>

 

When I was a boy in Ulysses, Kansas, I used to go out on the prairie and take

a shit. The flys buzzed around when I used to shit out on the prairie.So I

went to the city and met Barbitol Bob in jail. The jailer was nice ,so we

sent him for nose drops  that we drank. After we got out, Bob handed me Ez's

collected poems. Hmm this is weird, I thought, but we two lounge lizards read

it to our boy friends. Bob was a bellhop, and said we should go to the U. to

educate our minds. Hmm, I thought. Why not. I Never finished high school and

he only went to the reform school, Then our crazy English prof made us read

Ulysses.  I always got it confused with portrait of an artist as a young dog.

Bob was illiterate, so he took only art courses and made good grades. The

fraternity called him and he said they have all kinds of funny rules and

shit, so he didn't join. An art prof who read Life/Time and the New Yorker,

gave me a copy of Howl. Hmm, I said this guy fucks more than Danny, but Danny

has a 50 Buick Roadmaster convertible and wants to go to Hollywood. A hundred

years laters, Bob calls me and says, If you go to the Doors movie, you'll see

me and my son hawking our paintings on Venice Beach. Wow, I said, but missed

the first part. Makes me wonder where I would be without an educashun.

Charles Plymell

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:07:16 -0500

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Pamela Beach Plymell wrote:

>

> In a message dated 97-07-14 10:47:41 EDT, you write:

>

> <<  That is Cody's gift to

>  Jack.  The book is Jack's gift to Cody.  They both are a gift to us all. >>

>

> When I was a boy in Ulysses, Kansas, I used to go out on the prairie and take

> a shit. The flys buzzed around when I used to shit out on the prairie.So I

> went to the city and met Barbitol Bob in jail. The jailer was nice ,so we

> sent him for nose drops  that we drank. After we got out, Bob handed me Ez's

> collected poems. Hmm this is weird, I thought, but we two lounge lizards read

> it to our boy friends. Bob was a bellhop, and said we should go to the U. to

> educate our minds. Hmm, I thought. Why not. I Never finished high school and

> he only went to the reform school, Then our crazy English prof made us read

> Ulysses.  I always got it confused with portrait of an artist as a young dog.

> Bob was illiterate, so he took only art courses and made good grades. The

> fraternity called him and he said they have all kinds of funny rules and

> shit, so he didn't join. An art prof who read Life/Time and the New Yorker,

> gave me a copy of Howl. Hmm, I said this guy fucks more than Danny, but Danny

> has a 50 Buick Roadmaster convertible and wants to go to Hollywood. A hundred

> years laters, Bob calls me and says, If you go to the Doors movie, you'll see

> me and my son hawking our paintings on Venice Beach. Wow, I said, but missed

> the first part. Makes me wonder where I would be without an educashun.

> Charles Plymell

 

now that for those of you who don't know the dialect is what a TRUE

Kansan sounds like.

 

david rhaesa

salina, Kansas

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jul 1997 01:14:23 -0400

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Subject:      Re: City Lights

Comments: To: love_singing@msn.com

 

In a message dated 97-07-14 18:14:57 EDT, you write:

 

<< Actually, City Lights repeatedly turned down Kerouac's work and other

 beat

 works. >>

I knew about that though Allen's grumbling, though Allen was always patient.

He took me to F's house to see him. I wonder if that helped F decision to

publish my prose book and I think it was Apoc. Rose in CLJournal. I thought L

turned down Naked Lunch. I don't think he inderstood Burroughs. Publisher's

tastes.

C. Plymell

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 01:31:18 +0000

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> Date:          Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:22:15 -0400

> Reply-to:      "R. Bentz Kirby" <bocelts@SCSN.NET>

> From:          "R. Bentz Kirby" <bocelts@SCSN.NET>

> Organization:  Law Office of R. Bentz Kirby

> Subject:       Re: An Illiterate Impression of Visions of Cody

> To:            BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU

 

> James Stauffer wrote:

> >

> > David,

> >

> > Absolutely loved your synopsis of VOC.  Am trying to find the words to

> > describe why I still find this a frustrating-- and in many ways

> > unsatisfactory-- book.

> >

> > J. Stauffer

> >

> > RACE --- wrote:

> > >

> > > Good morning,

> > >

> > > I have checked out Visions of Cody and it is due back at the library

> > > soon.  I have carried it with me and felt it many many times.  It has

> > > been in my shoulder bag every day as i walk to the filling station and

> > > read the morning paper to get a sensation of locale.  I have read a few

> > > words here and there, typed a few words, and read many of the posts by

> > > folks who are better readers than i.  today i am getting a book in the

> > > mail from Diane Carter that i will definitely carry with me for at least

> > > a month or two. This book is named Ulysses.  It is buy a man named

> > > James.  Before i trade in Jack for James i felt i would spill my guts on

> > > the impressions this tired Kansan has of the book from carrying it with

> > > me for a bit.

> > >

> > > Once upon a time there was a man named Jack.  Jack had a peculiar

> > > genetic makeup.  He was born a feeler.  Jack could feel more listening

> > > to a Bobby Thompson home run on the radio than most people feel in an

> > > entire lifetime.

> > >

> >  . . .

>

> James:

>

> Don't get scared here, but I agree.  When I read VoC years ago, I wore

> it out.  Many creases etc in the spine.  I studied it.  I read slow like

> that and try to get the picture.  Here, I do not quite get it.  I

> appreciate that Cody rose above a dismal life in Denver selling fly

> swatters.  He read philosophy in the library.   I suppose Jack was

> impressed with Neal's mind and self education.  But is that a true

> picture?

>

> I get the feeling Jack is an impressionist painter here, just not up to

> par with some other things he has done.  What is he going for here?

> Where and why is he choosing this course.

>

>

> I am hopelessly bogged down in Part II.

>

> Next, how about some Proust?

>

> I think it is like You Can't Go Home Again and The Web and the Rock,

> unfinished works that leave one wanting the greatness that is partially

> revealed full flung.

>

> So, I am not sure I will finish Cody this second time.  But I tried.

> --

> Bentz

> bocelts@scsn.net

>

> http://www.scsn.net/users/sclaw

>

>

with a book as non-linear as VofC i personally think you should just

randomly read it a little each day (like how cody read his proust) or

as much as possible in one sitting, but don't stop in the middle of

one of those paragraphs or you will lose the "feeL" that way you will

eventually read it all. cya~randy

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From:         Pamela Beach Plymell <CVEditions@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: An Illiterate Impression of Visions of Cody

 

In a message dated 97-07-15 01:00:18 EDT, you write:

 

<< <<  That is Cody's gift to

  Jack.  The book is Jack's gift to Cody.  They both are a gift to us all. >>

 

 When I was a boy in Ulysses, Kansas, I used to go out on the prairie and

take

 a shit. The flys buzzed around when I used to shit out on the prairie.So I

 went to the city and met Barbitol Bob in jail. The jailer was nice ,so we

 sent him for nose drops  that we drank. After we got out, Bob handed me Ez's

 collected poems. Hmm this is weird, I thought, but we two lounge lizards

read

 it to our boy friends. Bob was a bellhop, and said we should go to the U. to

 educate our minds. Hmm, I thought. Why not. I Never finished high school and

 he only went to the reform school, Then our crazy English prof made us read

 Ulysses.  I always got it confused with portrait of an artist as a young

dog.

 Bob was illiterate, so he took only art courses and made good grades. The

 fraternity called him and he said they have all kinds of funny rules and

 shit, so he didn't join. An art prof who read Life/Time and the New Yorker,

 gave me a copy of Howl. Hmm, I said this guy fucks more than Danny, but

Danny

 has a 50 Buick Roadmaster convertible and wants to go to Hollywood. A

hundred

 years laters, Bob calls me and says, If you go to the Doors movie, you'll

see

 me and my son hawking our paintings on Venice Beach. Wow, I said, but missed

 the first part. Makes me wonder where I would be without an educashun.

 Charles Plymell

 

 

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jul 1997 01:52:44 -0400

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Subject:      Re: Literary Dandies

 

In a message dated 97-07-15 01:08:41 EDT, you write:

 

<< , Neal in his well

 chosen outfits (be they his first suit or jeans and t-shirt), Ginsberg

 in his self-conciously anti-fashion seedy professor look which follows

 his demented guru look . . .Plymell, the zoot suited hipster . . .

 

 James Stauffer >>

 

O yeah. Neal's signature was out of the 40's with penny loafers, levis and

white-t-shirt with sports jacket if needed. Brando-esq. The prof Ginsberg

dress was later. He did the white Indian signature when he discovered the

Haight . Up here at the committe farm it was strictly  farmer's overalls. He

wore them to England during that period where Pelieu tells of them all going

for dinner. Burroughs said to Pelieu ... walk on this side of the street

(with Pam's mother) so no one will think we're with THEM ..G and Peter in

farmer's overalls. Sometimes the occasion doesn't work. I forget what Allen &

Peter were weraing when I took themto Candy Darling's place in the Tenderloin

when Allen first arrived from India.. Probly modified hippie and guru wear.

Anyway, Candy didn't want ANYTHING to do with those weirdos! She of course

was in S.F. high drag.

C. Plymell

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jul 1997 02:01:28 -0400

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Subject:      Re: Pain's Monkey

 

In a message dated 97-07-15 01:24:53 EDT, you write:

 

I dreamt of dogs impinged on street sign

 too many animals on highway

 terrified eyes of cattle through the racks

 of tractor trailors on way to Chicago

cp

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Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 1997 23:37:46 -0700

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At 10:52 PM -0700 7/14/97, Pamela Beach Plymell wrote:

 

> Sometimes the occasion doesn't work.

 

 

> I forget what Allen &

> Peter were weraing when I took themto Candy Darling's place in the Tenderloin

> when Allen first arrived from India.. Probly modified hippie and guru wear.

> Anyway, Candy didn't want ANYTHING to do with those weirdos! She of course

> was in S.F. high drag.

 

Candy Darling, Andy Warhol's old flame?  andy, the beat?=

 

 

Jim Carroll tells a story, in basketball diaries, I believe: about how

Warhol used to call him up on the telephone.  It'd be like 7:30 in the

morning.  Andy would ask lots of questions and try to prolong the

conversation as long as possible.  Eventually, Carroll realized that Andy

was tape recording the conversations and playing them back later.  looking

for good source material for his art.  trying to keep a pulse on the

street.  and Andy would be upset if drugs had not been taken, if answers

paused at no or yes.  Andy wanted action.  spontaneous autonomical prose,

caught off-guard.  beauty is repulsive and must therefore be caught

sleeping.  and surprise!  This was the path, Andy was after.  So armed with

a polaroid camera, Andy Warhol put together these words from "America"

(1985)[[his OTR--

 

        <<So the young kids just moving to New York to find their fortune

are instead finding that they have to live in these incredible

neighborhoods which look reallly dangerous because they don't have the

money to pay the rent and live in a really good part of town.  But when

they look closely they find that the places they usually move to are filled

with other kids just like them and maybe it's not so bad. [[p140-144

 

For his polaroid portraits, he'd take about 100 shots.  Just staring at

you, talking with you, snapping the occasional portrait.  Then later, he'd

work down to the _one_ essential photograph.  a signal of deeper water.  4

color serigraphy/lithograph (or something -graph like that).

 

I wonder what if Andy Warhol had been there with Neal instead?

 

> C. Plymell

 

Douglas  [[note: I have yet to crack the book

 

http://www.electriciti.com/babu/                let the man come thru

stand up, and let the man come thru             let the man come thru

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:02:59 +0200

Reply-To:     Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

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From:         Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

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douglas & beati interested:

<<maestro di color che sanno>>=Master of Sage

its' referred to a person who is the best in the knowledge

btw im' not sure but i think joyce parafrased a verse

by Dante Alighieri "Divina Commedia", the work joyce liked alot,

perhaps a tribute to San Tommaso D'Aquino the Great

Theological Medieval Master,

---

yrs

Rinaldo.

* Kerouac gave to Neal Cassady the first "On The Road" copy printed

but Neal Cassady didn't demonstrate any interest to the book *

again ciao.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jul 1997 09:33:01 -0400

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thank you sherri and douglas for the comparisons to joyce, and especially

this post, which has never left my mind even though i must confess to

skipping a few hundred pages between beginning and molly's soliloquies.

mc

 

Ineluctable modality of the visible: at least that if no more, thought

through my eyes.  Signatures of all things I am here to read, seaspawn and

seawrack, the nearing tide, that rusty boot.  Snotgreen, bluesilver, rust:

coloured signs.  Limits of the diaphane.  But he adds: in bodies.  Then he

was aware of them bodies before of them coloured.  How?  By knocking his

sconce against them, sure.  Go easy.  Bald he was and a millionaire,

<<maestro di color che sanno>>.  Limit of the diaphane in.  Why in?

Diaphane, adiaphane.  If you can put your five fingers through it, it is a

gate, if not a door.  Shut your eyes and see.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jul 1997 09:57:26 -0400

Reply-To:     Waterrow@AOL.COM

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

From:         Jeffrey Weinberg <Waterrow@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: City Lights/Beat-L Tshirt

 

A few other interesting points re: Kerouac and City Lights that I discovered

in my research:

 

1. City Lights signed a contract with JK to publish his Old Angel Midnight

but as we know that never happened.

2. City Lights only published 1/2 the manuscript of Book of Dreams -

 

Regarding the infamous Beat-L T-shirt by S. Clay Wilson -

All shirts that have been ordered have been shipped; the last ones went out

this morning so please give it a week or so to reach you. (Charlie: your

shirts are on the way) -

As some of you know already, I have decided to give the shirts away free on

behalf of

the Beat List and Water Row Books. If you sent us a check, you received a

refund. If you ordered by credit card, no charge will be put on your account.

 

We still have a few more shirts left in L-XL-XXL sizes.

If you'd like a complimentary shirt to wear around town to help promote the

Beat-L,

just drop me a line with name and snail-mail address and size.

Offer good while supply lasts.

 

Thanks -

Jeffrey Weinberg

Water Row Books

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:56:03 UT

Reply-To:     Sherri <love_singing@MSN.COM>

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From:         Sherri <love_singing@MSN.COM>

Subject:      Re: An Illiterate Impression of Visions of Cody

 

* Kerouac gave to Neal Cassady the first "On The Road" copy printed

but Neal Cassady didn't demonstrate any interest to the book *

again ciao.

 

do any of you know anything about this?  was this the beginning of the rift

between them?

 

ciao,

sherri

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:45:46 -0400

Reply-To:     Richard Wallner <rwallner@CAPACCESS.ORG>

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From:         Richard Wallner <rwallner@CAPACCESS.ORG>

Subject:      Re: An Illiterate Impression of Visions of Cody

Comments: To: Sherri <love_singing@MSN.COM>

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On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Sherri wrote:

 

> * Kerouac gave to Neal Cassady the first "On The Road" copy printed

> but Neal Cassady didn't demonstrate any interest to the book *

> again ciao.

>

> do any of you know anything about this?  was this the beginning of the rift

> between them?

>

> ciao,

> sherri

>

 

I think the rift that drove them apart was that Neal was trying to raise

two kids with wife Carolyn at near poverty level and Jack was making big

$$$ with a book *about* him and wouldnt share even a penny.  Even when

Neal went to jail on a pot bust, Jack refused to help (did buy Neal a

typewriter to use in his cell but thats all)  When Neal was out of jail,

he asked Jack's permission to publish their voluminous correspondence so

he could feed his kids, and Jack refused.   In her book, "Off the Road",

Carolyn Cassady is quite pointed about Jack's miserliness.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:55:52 -0400

Reply-To:     Michael Stutz <stutz@DSL.ORG>

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From:         Michael Stutz <stutz@DSL.ORG>

Subject:      Re: An Illiterate Impression of Visions of Cody

Comments: To: Richard Wallner <rwallner@CAPACCESS.ORG>

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On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Richard Wallner wrote:

 

> I think the rift that drove them apart was that Neal was trying to raise

> two kids with wife Carolyn at near poverty level and Jack was making big

> $$$ with a book *about* him and wouldnt share even a penny.

 

What was his high point in terms of net income -- how much did he have?

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jul 1997 09:58:50 -0700

Reply-To:     "Penn, Douglas, K" <dkpenn@OEES.COM>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

From:         "Penn, Douglas, K" <dkpenn@OEES.COM>

Subject:      FW: Welcome to BEAT-L

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Mail was bouncing here at work, got unsubscribed.  Have resubscribed

(thanx Bill Cargan).  I love this list!

 

cheers, Douglas

 

 

"the map is not the territory"                  babu@electriciti.com

  (Alfred Korzybski)                    www.electriciti.com/babu/

 

>----------

>From:  L-Soft list server at The City University of NY

>(1.8c)[SMTP:LISTSERV@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU]

>Sent:  Tuesday, July 15, 1997 9:54 AM

>To:    Penn, Douglas, K

>Subject:       Welcome to BEAT-L

>

>Welcome to BEAT-L, an online discussion forum devoted to the study of

>the lives and works of the writers of the Beat Generation, especially

>Jack Kerouac, Allen Ginsberg, and William Burroughs.  BEAT-L is an

>unmoderated list open to anyone interested in the Beat Generation.

>Scholars, writers, students, laymen -- all are welcome to join the

>discussion and share their ideas.  In addition to providing an outlet

>for discussion of Beat texts, the listserv is intended to facilitate

>scholarly communication and to serve as a bulletin board or calendar

>for poetry readings, announcements of new publications, upcoming

>conferences and other Beat related events.

>

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:01:05 -0700

Reply-To:     James William Marshall <dv8@MAIL.NETSHOP.NET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

From:         James William Marshall <dv8@MAIL.NETSHOP.NET>

Subject:      Sum

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                                                   James M.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:01:04 -0700

Reply-To:     James William Marshall <dv8@MAIL.NETSHOP.NET>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

From:         James William Marshall <dv8@MAIL.NETSHOP.NET>

Subject:      Nahlej

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                                          James M.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jul 1997 20:13:38 +0200

Reply-To:     Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

From:         Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

Subject:      Re: An Illiterate Impression of Visions of Cody

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Sherri & amici beati,

check Ann Charters' foreword in

Jack KEROUAC "THE LEGEND OF DULUOZ"

COMPILATION COPYRIGHT (c) THE ESTATE OD STELLA KEROUAC,

JOHN SAMPAS LITERARY REPRESENTATIVE; AND JAN KEROUAC, 1995

 

Ann Charters quoted (i have the italian translation):

"Nel 1957, quando il suo vecchio amico Neal Cassady e uno

scatolone di libri inviatogli dall'editore arrivarono

contemporaneamente nel suo appartamento di Berkeley, Kerouac

diede la prima copia di "Sulla strada" appena pubblicato

a Cassady, protagonista del libro. In "Angeli di desolazione"

Kerouac scrisse che quando Cassady se ne ando' "Per la prima

volta nelle nostre vite non mi guardo' negli occhi salutandomi,

ma distolse lo sguardo- non lo capii allora e non lo capisco

adesso- sapevo che qualcosa stava per andare storto e ando'

storto davvero" [translated by Maria Giulia Castagnone]

 

if i read in absent-minded tell me why,

 

ciao a tutti,

---

yrs

Rinaldo.        *a not competent beet*

 

 

At 13.56 15/07/97 UT, Sherri wrote:

>* Kerouac gave to Neal Cassady the first "On The Road" copy printed

>but Neal Cassady didn't demonstrate any interest to the book *

>again ciao.

>

>do any of you know anything about this?  was this the beginning of the rift

>between them?

>

>ciao,

>sherri

>

>

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Date:         Tue, 15 Jul 1997 20:16:40 +0200

Reply-To:     Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

From:         Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

Subject:      (FWD)Allen Ginsberg: Shadow Changes Into Bone, Vol 1, #5

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>Subject: Allen Ginsberg: Shadow Changes Into Bone, Vol 1, #5

>

>*--------------------------------------------------------*

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>

>IN THIS ISSUE:

>

>    Mongo Sez...

>    Events Listings

>      - Boston Radio Reading of HOWL!

>    "Gilly" Howls over WERE Program Cancellation

>    Portland Event Remembered

>      - Transcript of trial sought

>    Vegas Memorial Remembered

>

>

>

>

>------------------------------

>*******  MONGO SEZ...  *******

>------------------------------

>

>Hi Folks!

>

>Yeah, long time no newsletter!  Blame it on a personal life that has

>been way to full lately, and not a summer just too beautiful to spend in

>front of the computer...

>

>Still, stuff has been happening, and I wanted to get a quick newsletter

>out.

>

>The big news, which you'll find below, concerns the upcoming radio

>reading of 'Howl' on Friday!  Allen dreamed and planned for years to

>have a station challenge the FCC "safe harbor" hours by broadcasting

>Howl during prime time.  Now it seems that a station in Bostin is taking

>up the challenge.  The reading sounds excellent, and I'm (luckily) going

>to be in Boston that day.  I'll be trying to tune in, and let you know

>of any aftermath.

>

>In a related story, see the piece that follows about Gilly's reading of

>'Howl'.  Some brave folks lead the way.  Others punish those who dare to

>lead...

>

>I have also received a couple of nice remembrances written about

>memorial services held in Portland and Las Vegas, contributed by

>correspondents.  Now that the memorials have pretty much dwindled away,

>there aren't a lot of events to announce.  So if you hear of any, please

>let me know.  I'll get them on the web page and out via this mailing

>list.

>

>Several people responded to my call for those interested in

>participating in an on-line Allen Ginsberg discussion group.

>Unfortunately, it wasn't quite enough to make it worth doing yet.  If we

>can find just a few more folks, I'll get the list set up and

>operational.  I feel we need to have at least 15-20 folks on line to

>make it interesting and self sustaining (and to justify the $20 a month

>it will cost me)!

>

>Best wishes to you all, and do keep in touch!

>

>--Mongo

>

>

>

>---------------------------------

>*******  EVENTS LISTINGS  *******

>---------------------------------

>

>I'll post these notices as soon as they come in. If you have an event,

>write to me: mongo.bearwolf@dartmouth.edu

>

>

>----------------------------------

>BOSTON, MA (and surrounding area):

>----------------------------------

>

>A Radio Reading of HOWL

>Friday, July 18

>

>On July 18, there is going to be a complete reading of HOWL on WFNX.

>Included readers are Robert Pinsky, Frank Bidart, Gail Mazur, Elsa

>Dorfman, Harvey Silverglate, Lloyd Schwartz. This reading during prime

>time is a memorial tribute to Allen, who was obsessed with the fact that

>the FCC wouldn't allow HOWL over the airwaves in prime time.

>

>We would like OTHER radio stations in the country to also air HOWL

>during prime time.

>

>-- Elsa Dorfman

>Portrait Photographer

>607 Franklin Street

>Cambridge MA 02139-2923

>http://elsa.photo.net

>elsad @world.std.com

>

>

>** [The Following is culled from a Boston Globe article. --M]

>

>WFNX TO AIR 'HOWL" DESPITE FCC

>by Susan Bickelhaput, Globe Staff

>

>WFNX-FM (101.7) owner Stephan Mindich insists that it's not his

>intention to thumb his nose at the Federal Communications Commission

>next week when the station airs a reading of the Poems "Howl," by the

>late Allen Ginsberg

>

>But Mindich does acknowledge that he is pushing the envelope.

>

>The poem, written by Ginsberg in 1955, has never been aired on

>commercial radio to Mindich's knowledge, and along with George Carlin's

>"seven dirty words" was flagged by the FCC in the late 1960s as verboten

>broadcast material.

>

>But the staff of WFNX organized a half-hour-long reading of the poem in

>May at Mama Kin, and will broadcast it next Friday from 6 to 7 pm.  News

>director Henry Santoro will host the show, which will also feature

>commentary by Robert Pinsky, Peter Wolf, Gail Mazur, Harvey Silvergate,

>Lloyd Schwartz, Elsa Dorfman, and Mindich, among others.

>

>"We don't want to do this strictly to challenge the FCC, that wasn't the

>grand plan," said program director Bill Glasser, "But we want to air the

>work as a tribute to Allen Ginsberg."  So the poem will not be relegated

>to the FCC's "safe harbor," which rules that so-called indecent

>programming can only air between 10 pm and 6 am.

>

>Mindich said "Howl," which is a "very direct and complex poem about

>Allen's world view and experiences," contains language that "most

>newspapers would dot out and most broadcasters would bleep out."  It is

>the contex, he said, that makes it acceptable.

>

>He said the idea stemmed from a conversation with Boston Phoenix editor

>Peter Kadzis and photographer Dorfman.

>

>"We knew there could be a problem with the language, but I just don't

>think this is outside of the [FCC] standards," Mindich said.  "My

>purpose isn't to challenge the FCC, but I do believe that prime time is

>a value time when adult listeners will tune in.  And there is a clear

>delineation between that which is art and that which isn't.

>

>Mindich, who also is published of the alternative weekly Boston Phoenix,

>said he also sees a relationship "between the DNA" of the paper and the

>station.  "Over the years we have pushed the envelope with things we

>thought had artistic merit," he said.

>

>He added that since the station is not publicly owned, he is prepared to

>deal with the consequences.

>

>"We are a medium to communicate, and I can make that decision," he

>said.  "I don't have to worry about Wall Street or what a board of

>directors will say.  If there is a FCC problem, I will deal with it."

>

>

>------------------------------------------------------

>**** "GILLY" HOWLS OVER WERE PROGRAM CANCELLATION ****

>------------------------------------------------------

>

>*[Contributed by a correspondent --M]

>

>Even in death, Allen Ginsberg is causing problems. The feisty beat

>generation poet, who died earlier this year, was the topic of the April

>20 "Gilly Show," a highly rated overnight program on WERE AM 1300. A

>reading from Ginsberg's poem "Howl" led to the cancellation of the

>program, allegedly in response to a single telephone complaint received

>by the station Wednesday, April 23.

>

>During the final half hour of the late-night program, Gilly (Rick

>Gilmour), the show's host, read section I from the acclaimed poem in

>tribute to Ginsberg. In advance of the reading, which contained a

>reference to sodomy, the station provided a warning to listeners that

>the program's content may contain objectionable language.

>

>Gilmour, who has had his own show on the station since June, 1996,

>contests that WERE management gave assurance months ago that the only

>grounds for cancellation of "The Gilly Show" would be for violation of

>the FCC's Safe Harbor Policy, which allows for use of certain taboo

>words during off-peak airtime hours, if used in a socially redeeming

>context.

>

>The portion of the poem which drew objection refers to people, "... who

>let themselves be fucked in the ass by saintly motorcyclists and

>screamed with joy ..." Gilmour maintains no violations ever occurred on

>any broadcast of the program, which was pulled from WERE's lineup the

>day after Gilmour was notified "The Gilly Show" was the station's top

>program.

>

>"We didn't break FCC policy, and station management never clearly laid

>out a policy for board operators," Gilmour told SCENE, absolving

>coworkers for not censoring the broadcast. "Nobody knows what the line

>is. I wanted to draw a line, and that's why I did it."

>

>"I don't know what all the fuss is about," said WERE Station Manager

>John Hill, citing company policy and not FCC rules as the reason for the

>show's demise. "We have six or seven easy-to-follow rules, and what

>Gilly did was one of the things you can't do."

>

>According to Gilmour, management called the station "too conservative"

>for "that kind of language," and said Gilmour should have known better.

>"My audience is pretty progressive," he responded. "I even had old women

>that would call."

>

>The move doesn't effect Gilmour's Saturday program, "Beer Talk," which

>will continue in its 10 p.m. time slot on WERE. "I'm certainly not going

>to penalize him for the 'Beer Talk' show -- in fact, I'm not penalizing

>him, at all," Hill said, amazed by the attention the subject has gained

>in the past week. "You'd think we just canceled the 'Seinfeld' show."

>

>And while Hill insisted "The Gilly Show" will not return to WERE,

>Gilmour sees things differently.

>

>"Do I expect to get my show back?" Gilmour said. "Yes, because I've

>given WERE more publicity for them screwing me out of my job than they

>could buy."

>

>  http://www.clevescene.com/970501/make0501.htm

>

>

>----------------------------------------------

>*******  PORTLAND MEMORIAL REMEMBERED  *******

>----------------------------------------------

>

>From: Andi5757@aol.com

>Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 23:14:08 -0400 (EDT)

>Subject: hello from Portland, Oregon

>

>well yesterday here in Portland there was a memorial reading done for

>Allen on the occasion of his birthday.  It was held at Powell's

>bookstore, the major independent new and used bookstore in Portland,

>which carries on in its own way the spirit of City Lights bookstore.

>

>The readings of Allen's work were done by a half dozen or more local

>Portland poets who also shared reminiscences of their brief encounters

>with Allen over the years.  The reading was attended by oh i'd say about

>70 to 100 people.

>The readers had fun reading and for an hour an a half i would say that

>the spirit of playfulness, sensuality, and authentic outrage and wonder

>that Allen represents to people was alive.

>

>One reading in particular was very moving to me.  It came from the

>transcript of the Chicago 7 trial in 1969 as an aftermath of the 1968

>democratic convention in Chicago.  Allen was called to testify in the

>trial.  The prosecution's cross examination included an exchange

>something like: " and what did you do when you thought there was going

>to be violence?  Allen well I Omed?  You omed?  yes like this and then

>Allen proceeds to do a half dozen om's.  Upon which there is an

>objection which causes the judge to say we'll strike from the record the

>Om's after the second Om.

>

>then Allen is able to recite a poem about Whitman which was from reality

>sandwiches which was increadibly sensuous.  Allen was asked byt he

>prosecution what he meant by that poem, hoping to discredit him by as a

>queer.  But Allen gives this incredibly moving reply something to the

>effect that until America can come to terms with its attitudes about

>sexuality that it could not be healed from the horrors of war etc.

>

>if you know of a way to find that exact passage in the trial's

>transcript, I

>would really like to get a copy of his testimony in that trial...

>

>love

>andi

>

>

>-------------------------------------------

>*******  VEGAS MEMORIAL REMEMBERED  *******

>-------------------------------------------

>

 



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