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David
I can
be pissed at lack of compassion and at
mistreatment of people
anywhere
in the world. Screw you suggests to me not a call for a specific
action
but an outraged outcry at uncalled for meanness. I don't think it is
fair to
single out the United States as being a bad apple among nations,
when in
my opinion it is qactually better than most.
In its
litteral meaning screwing might be more of a gift from heaven than an
insult.
leon
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replace country with world?
>Leon
suggests (as I undersand it)
>in
recent poem of the screw you motif that he is not willing to screw
>you
to America (a nice nationalism) but if we do the following
>calculation
FOR ALL country REPLACE world THEN yes screw you ...
>
>Goodness.
>
>Think
Universally Act Intrapersonally
>--
the bumper sticker from Firewalk Thru Madness --
>
>of
course there are many meanings of screw and you so ... maybe i'll
>twist
and shout with the rest of the world too.... !!!
>
>the
vortex in wichita is now firmly placed in my satchel bag by the way!
>
>david
rhaesa
>salina,
Kansas
>.-
>
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>Sherri
wrote:
so long
as the archives are not fully available (due to this discord and
whatever
other reasons there may be),
Gerry, i'm not blaming this mess on any one
thing. nor am i saying that Jan
started
it. that would be terribly simplistic
and naive (not to mention the
fact
that i have so little information on the entire issue in the first
place). i do think that the personal discord may
cause the problem to be
continued
at greater length. i do not have enough
knowledge of the history of
what
has been going on to even have a clue as to all the contributing factors.
i just know that personal strife will always
extenuate matters.
so what
i hope is (i know i sound pollyanna-ish) that everyone will turn
his/her
attention to the matter at hand - which is the proper care of the
archive
and the dissemination of the information contained in it so that we
can all
better understand JK and his work.
sincerely,
sherri
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At
03:09 AM 10/27/97 UT, you wrote:
>Bill
Gargan wrote:
>There's
still lots of work to be done, which why all this bickering upsets
me.
> It
can only detract from general interest in Kerouac.
Sherri
wrote:
>i
agree Bill. i think this bitterness not
only detracts from JK, but
>seriously
deters good scholarship from being possible.
so long as the
>archives
are not fully available (due to this discord and whatever other
>reasons
there may be), and possibly not being adequately cared for in some
>places,
there can be no hope of putting ALL of the pieces together for the
>best
possible understanding.
Dear
Sherri: Oct 26, 1997
To set the record straight, the
"discord" began when Jan Kerouac
filed
suit against the Sampas family in May, 1994.
At that point, John
Sampas
had been in control of the Kerouac Estate for 3 years. He had made
no move
to put the Kerouac Archive in a library during that period. To the
contrary,
he had sold a good many pieces off to collectors and dealers, and
he had
sabotaged his own dealer Jeffrey Weinberg's attempt to sell the
entire
archive to the Bancroft Library in Berkeley.
Sampas had also
rebuffed
and insulted Tom Staley of the Humanities Research Center at U of
Texas,
Austin, who was also interested in purchasing the collection.
Weinberg
and Bonnie Bearden of the Bancroft Library as well as Tom Staley
are
available to verify what I say (not "unsubstantiated" as Mr. Gyenis
will
claim).
So please do not hold the
"discord" responsible for the Kerouac
Archive
not being available in a library right now.
I know that is what Mr.
Maher
and Mr. Sampas's other supporters have claimed.
They ignore the fact that I have
offered again and again to work
with
Mr. Sampas on getting the Kerouac Archive into a library RIGHT NOW.
The
lawsuit, if it goes forward, will determine who gets what share of the
revenue
from the Kerouac Estate, and whether Jan's heirs and Jack's nephew
Paul
Blake Jr deserve to get anything. But a
library sale could be made
tomorrow,
and the money could be put in escrow until the court decides
whether
it all belongs to Mr. Sampas or whether he must share it with Mr.
Blake
and Ms. Kerouac's heirs. It is that
simple, and that easy, if Mr.
Sampas
wanted to do it.
Bancroft, Stanford, and New York
Public would all pay one million
dollars
for the archive tomorrow, and I know that because I have talked to
the
respective collections directors of each library.
Respectfully, Gerald Nicosia
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I saw
an enlightening painting on North Poplar Street in Wichita between
Douglas
and Second this weekend. It was titled
"A Gang of One".
I
returned to a digest that included a diatribe or polemic i'm not
certain
which concerning the anti-Johnsonishtistic cliqueishness of
elements
on the Beat-L "ganging" up on folks and throwing them to the
wolves. And i thought -- oh yeah i think i did body
slam that guy once
or
twice. Sad that he took it as
hateful. Oh well.
And
then of course the gang doesn't ever argue within itself. We never
disagree
amongst ourselves -- we only say GO GO GO and AH! and this and
that
wondering who can pat the other's backs fastest and bestest and we
do this
while mentioning coded messages of the music which we're
listening
to while writing (for example i'm listening to Howl in my left
ear and
a learning channel show on apparitions in my right at this
moment)
and the coded soundtrack changes the whole meaning of the whole
thing
to everyone here and there and everywhere that is IN the gang but
is
intended obviously as a stonewalling of those who are out. Like my
introduction
to the Beat-L when I was so fucking beat that in reading
Rinaldo
on Howl and the Declaration of Independence pulled Carl Becker's
historical
interpretation off the bookshelf and began to scan it and
told
people that i was reading it (and the author wasn't even BEAT
egad) and of course i've committed a crime against
humanity here and
there
in my days on and off list. I've burned
a book or two and torn
many
apart to place them in different order in journals -- tossing on a
title
and giving it to my shrink. And i've
liberated more books than
anyone
on this list in my youth and what am i to do about it. i ain't
much of
a liberator these days. I'm much more
of a donater taking a box
of
books to charities usually a couple times a month. But how long will
this
bardonic purgatorgistic mark of theft hang on my brow like Cain
perhaps
I can spawn an entire race and will this race be as EVIL as
America
as the world as Moloch or Angels? I
have no clue
And who
do I see to get into this Gang anyway.
How many in this Gang?
What
are their names what are their names do you know the folks on the
good
Reuben James? I must wonder now and
then but I am told that if one
merely
mails to listserv address the word REVIEW the list of the
co-conspirators
will flash on my screen and i can mark down which are on
the
side of grace and which on the side of Moloch and who live in Kansas
or have
been through Wichita and driven down Poplar Street is obviously
something
of a Calvinistic notion of the "elect" in this Gang of One.
But
what was I saying?
Oh
yes. I drove South. I saw.
I visited. I followed an
enchanting
Irish
pied piper keyboard from oldtown to the Bill Garrison blues
society
convention birthday party an eclectic Ericksonian halloween bash
and a
rendition of "All of Me" in which we all decided we were only half
conscious
so began again singing "Half of me, why not take Half of Me"
and
then walked again into a dark wichita night and the Gang of One
painting
lead me here and there and to the Knights Motel and back across
to Poplar
and to the U. and to Southeast Asia foreign policy concerning
Burmese/Myanamaristic
heroin dealing. And return to a
diatribe against
my one
nation under God and heard a cat say this morning "I invent more
Gods in
one day than you will believe in in a lifetime" and so I
understand
but then again after about two or three questions from moi he
did
admit that he also "destroys more Gods in one day than you will
believe
in in a lifetime" and this caveman's eyes sparkle in a cricket
habitat
as he says these things and so do i invent or do i destroy and
am I
america or is america some evil demon someone ELSE has created and
that i
will sit around and whine about in my youth.
Of course it is,
because
we all go through those days ... bad hair days in which the
world
is our oyster and the troubles are all caused by them. By the
gang. That damn clique on the Beat-L -- they're
probably responsible
for the
tensions in Kashmir afterall aren't they.
And I am A GANG OF
ONE! but it is pretty fucking big ONE if you get
the drift. ONE nation
under
GOD (pick a god any god) INDIVISABLE ah there's the rub. At least
to
those who ain't in Kansas cuz ya gotta know that whether you pick
Lecompton
or Topeka the crystal on my bathroom shelf still shines the
same
mystic colours. Why divide? Why not belive in indivisibility?
Because
I am not me? You are not me. I am not in the Gang. The Gang
is in
the Gang and since I'm outside of the Gang I must not be in the
Gang
and I am outside the Gang because I ain't no I yet I'm sitting
around
saying YOU YOU YOU it's all your fault.
Well, son, find a little
Moloch
in yourself ... smile at it sing Holy Holy Holy to your Moloch
admit
it and get over it and become a Gang of One and then look around
at the
Gangs of Gangs that Mother of All Gangs that you feared most
(whichever
it happens to be this minute) and you'll say -- Oh it's you!
Why
didn't you tell me were falling into that old Steppenwolf spiritual
trip
again!!! <grin>
david
rhaesa
salina,
Kansas
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I think
the Florida marlins just won the World seies.
Renteria hit one up
the middle
in the 11th.
Tony
Fernandez was "the goat" (always unfair to call someone the goat to
my
mind--but
they do) was Livan Hernandez the MVP.
This guy is just 22 years
old and
he had to escape from Cuba (escape--run away--flee) to come to the
US and
play.
Go
figure.
"I
love you Miami" is what he shouted.
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From: Attila Gyenis <GYENIS@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: estate stuff and blah blah
In a
message dated 97-10-25 17:30:20 EDT, Gerry writes:
<< That's the only time we have met, to my recollection. YOu certainly
never
attended any of my other speeches or
presentations in Lowell. ...
(snip) ....You had to have had access to
Jan's deposition, which
could
only have been thru Sampas. And that
deposition tells how she
discovered
the forgery, just as the SAMPAS's deposition of me tells my side
of the
story. If you haven't read my side yet,
just go on over to Sampas's
house
and read it. I'm sure he'd be more than
happy to show it to you. And
don't
forget to ask him for another Viking/Penguin ad for DHARMA BEAT, while
you're
at it.
Best always, Gerry Nicosia>>
Gerry,
Besides
the Greek dinner that we shared, I videotaped your speech in Lowell
when
you talked about 'The Tragedy of Jack Kerouac" (not sure of the exact
title)
and we talked several times that weekend. I saw you another year when
Jan and
you spoke at the Middlesex Community College (about the archives and
stuff).
I saw you in New York at the two NYU events. The second year at NYU
we
weren't talking much because of a difference of opinion after you
disagreed
about the way I edited an article that was to be included in DHARMA
beat
(that was excerpted from your speech in Lowell), which never got
published
after you accused me of censorship. And I did talk to you once or
twice
on the phone.
And I
always supported the fact that Jack's archives should be publicly
available
as Jack intended. I just don't think Jack intended you to handle
it.
And I
have always felt that Jan was due something from the estate being the
daughter
of Jack. But a few years ago, when I found that she was getting
monies
(royalties) from the estate, that issue became less of an concern. How
much
more she should have gotten, legally or ethically, is a different
question
that I don't have a strong opinion on.
When I
say "met with" I mean more then just a hello. So while I have seen
John
Sampas many times during the Lowell events, I have only met and talked
with
him a few times.
I have
only approached John Sampas once for material for DHARMA beat (and
that
was this year and I got turned down). He did on his own offer DHARMA
beat
two unpublished Kerouac pieces a couple of years ago (which we
published).
You
make the accusation that the ads were all done through Mr. Sampas,
whereas
in reality I contacted each of the companies myself, directly. Now if
you
have information that Viking does not publish an ad without Sampas
approval,
so be it.
I have
NEVER been to John Sampas's house. I have NEVER seen Jan's depositions
(or
your deposition).
These
are all assumptions (among others) that you make and that you keep
repeating.
It wasn't true the first time you said it and it is not true now
either.
I
haven't lived near Lowell for over a year and a half (I used to live in New
Hampshire).
Actually, we are practically neighbors since I am now living here
in
northern California (Eureka).
so if
you are coming over, let me know
and
I'll bake you a cake
Attila
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Subject: Steal this book
The
people who are stealing Kerouac books aren't stealing them to read. They
are
stealing them to resell to used bookstores. It is very hard to find used
Kerouac
used books (since everyone keeps theirs for life). I know that is the
case in
NYC. So I don't think it is the people on this list who are stealing
them
(?or are you). Kerouac books, good as gold.
someone
wrote:
>>
Now I'm hearing that followers of the beat generation are notorious book
thieves
in some areas. What does that say about
the Beat ethic? Do any of
you
bookstore employees on this list know of other books and genres that are
eminently
stealable? I can't believe that in the
whole wide world of books,
only
Beat Generation
topics
inspire theft. ..
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>Dear
Sherri: Oct 26, 1997
> To set the record straight, the
"discord" began when Jan Kerouac
>filed
suit against the Sampas family in May, 1994.
At that point, John
>Sampas
had been in control of the Kerouac Estate for 3 years. He had made
>no
move to put the Kerouac Archive in a library during that period.
Folks,
read the above then pick up your copy of "Some of the Dharma" open
it to
the forward and read this the fourth paragraph down. It reads,
In June 1993, I placed the finished
manuscript of "Some of the Dharma" and
the
eleven spiral notebooks in which Jack originally wrote the book in the
New
York Public Library's Berg Collection. They are available there for
study
by literary scholars.
John
Sampas Executor - The Estate of Jack Kerouac
Personally
I would love to see all the archives in a library at some point,
as I'm
sure all of you would but I think anyone would be a fool to only get
one
million for it. Gerry, I'm sure John really appreciates all your help
but
somehow I don't think he needs you to negotiate a deal with a library
for
him. Phil Chaput
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Leon Tabory wrote:
> I
can be pissed at lack of compassion and
at mistreatment of people
>
anywhere in the world. Screw you suggests to me not a call for a
>
specific
>
action but an outraged outcry at uncalled for meanness. I don't think
> it
is
>
fair to single out the United States as being a bad apple among
>
nations,
>
when in my opinion it is qactually better than most.
Leon,
I have
to agree with you about the replacing of America with world,
because
the kind of meanness you suggest is in effect widespread as
"man's
inhumanity to man." I read Keith's
screw you America to mean he
wants
nothing to do with what America is, but whether one likes it or
not, whether
we feel we are in or out of the mainstream, we are all a
part of
America unless we chose to leave it. I
would rather see the
screw
you applied more appropriately to specific actions and not the
country
as a whole, much like what Ginsberg was doing when he wrote "Go
fuck
yourself with your atom bomb."
DC
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here is
where i'm at in thinking concerning Howl part one over on the
Burke-L. If any of y'all can provide details and
insights to help me
further
in this expedition i appreciate any help.
Feel free to splice
your
own thoughts right into the stream of thought.
One of Kenneth
Burke's
beliefs was in "the ongoing conversation" and i believe that
things
i've discovered on Beat-L such as the exploding text are right in
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RACE
--- wrote:
>
>
i'll try to put into words more clearly the process involved in the next
>
few days. Well back from Wichita -- had
a good talk with John O. Burtis of
Kansas State about this process over the
weekend at Wichita State. Not too
much time this morning but will try to
provide another layer of thought.
>
Richard
wrote:
>
> (2)So: What is being unfolded, what is being folded?
>
>
while i just did it visually, the best way to understand it would be
>
literally the paper is folded and unfolded.
But
beyond this literal -- which is something of a movement from some of
William
Burroughs and Brion Gysin's toying with the evolutionary virus
of
symbolism, there are obviously movements and layers of folding and
unfolding. John had some interesting insights in this
regard.
>
Richard
wrote:
> I see one specific
>
> word repeated ("naked"), but what is it specifically that
connects the two
>
> passages you mention?
in
addition to the structural notions mentioned below, i think it is
fair to
suggest that the depth of condensation of the term "naked" in
the
Beat spin on language is significant.
"Naked" might even be
considered
a God-term of the Beatific. I hope that
some can offer
examples
of the revelatory function of the naked terminology of
"naked". I will contemplate at attempt to come up
with some examples
myself.
>
> it
would be the difference structurally of these passages from the
>
litany of who's between. I would guess
that the second passage should
>
probably be extended further.
Now i'm
adding a twist of sorts to the folding and unfolding which comes
from
William and Brion's works and obviously is influenced by the film
and
music artist-producers. A bit of
splicing by incorporating a tad of
KB's
dialectician's hymn into the stew.
>
> so
for example:
>
>
Hail to Thee, Logos, Thou Vast Almighty Title . . . I saw the best minds of my
generation destroyed by madness, starving
>
hysterical naked . . .In whose name we conjure our acts the partial
representatives ... who studied Plotinus Poe
St. John of the Cross
>
telepathy and bop kaballa because the cosmos instinctively vibrated at
>
their feet in Kansas ... to recreate the syntax and measure ... Of Thy whole
act. . . . of poor human prose and stand
before you speechless and intelligent
and shaking with shame, ... may we be Thy
delegates In parliament assembled.
Parts of thy wholeness. And in our conflicts Correcting one another
...
rejected yet confessing out the soul to
conform to the
>
rhythm of thought in his naked and endless head, the madman bum and
>
angel beat in Time, unknown, yet putting down here what might be left to
>
say in time come after death .....By study of our errors Gaining Revelation.
>
I
believe that the splicing of the poetry of Kenneth Burke into the
folding
and unfolding example begins to paint a bit more of where my
idea is
headed. Perhaps we can have an
apparitional panel at the Iowa
City
conference in which KB and WSB and others of significance can
dissect
the howling of post-Nagasaki literature even more <smile>.
> it
seems that each of the "who" sections when set within these folds (as
>
shown here with the Kansas line) shows that AG has condensed a huge tale
>
that perhaps is yet to be told. In
Kerouacian style, the telling of
>
this line alone would likely be most of a book. AG condenses so much
>
experience into these lines revealing a glimpse of the lives but hiding
>
the details of the stories, the legends, the myths.
I had
even more insight -- near epiphany of a notion suggested by
patricia
elliot of lawrence that there are no minor poets -- while in
Wichita. Having bracketed the one in the litany of
who's prior to
wichita
expedition, i found myself receiving tour of town from a gentle
Irishman
who has just published in small press a book about a tavern in
Wichita
named "A Blackout". It is
precisely the "type" of work -- in
this
instance something of "a folklore of a place" that is not revealed
but
suggested and hidden in the litany of the who's in the pre-folded
form
and this is precisely the type of unfolding that i was hoping to
show. It is these types of small press
"minor" writer works which fill
the
experiential gaps in the anthem of Part One of Howl for Carl
Solomon.
>
> i
will try and do more to flesh out what i'm up to in the coming days.
i will
try and do more to flesh out what i'm up to in the coming weeks.
>
>
david rhaesa
>
salina, Kansas
>
>
dbr
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:15:16 -0500
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From: Diane De Rooy <Ddrooy@AOL.COM>
Subject: beat websites: updated today
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Here's
my updated (plus the original) Beat websites listing. If your site
isn't
included here, don't get mad... just send the link (yo, what do a l=
ook
like, a
freakin librarian?) and I'll include it in my master list, which =
is
certainly
NOT definitive.
I
understand that when these leave my mailbox and go through cyberspace,
there
is some garbling or something. If you have trouble deciphering any =
of
these
links, let me know, and I'll do what I can to help.
IF YOU
ARE ON AOL, write to me directly and I'll send you the "hot-linked=
"
list.
That will save you the trouble of typing the URL into your web brow=
ser.
You can
just click on the hyperlink and ZINNNNG! Yer there.
For
those of you who've already seen these, skip down to the line that sa=
ys
"Updated
27 October..."
diane
de rooy
COMPASS
POINTS ON THE cyberROAD
"Route
66 can be read in two directions. First stop on this page : Jack
Kerouac
and the 'Beat Generation', a coast to coast trip down the legenda=
ry
highway,
in the footsteps of the beatniks. A page of history. Second stop=
:
Jack
Kerouac and the 'Byte Generation', where we take a virtual stroll,
seeking
memories of Route 66 in the Web universe. Or when the mouse repla=
ces
the
car... " --From the intro to
"Jack Kerouac and the "Beat Generation"
home
page
EVENTS
LCKerouac
Festival Page =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://members.aol.com/lckerouac/festival.htm">http://members.=
aol.com
/lckerouac/festival.htm</A>
SITES
WITH LINKS
Literary
Kicks =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.charm.net/%7Ebrooklyn/LitKicks.html">http://www.cha=
rm.net/
%7Ebrooklyn/LitKicks.html</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
The
Unofficial WSB website =3D
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.peg.apc.org/~firehorse/wsb/wsb.html">http://www.peg=
.apc.or
g/~firehorse/wsb/wsb.html</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
The
Wild Bohemian Home Page =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.halcyon.com/colinp/bohemian.htm">http://www.halcyon=
.com/co
linp/bohemian.htm</A>
"Included
here are links to pages about Hippies, the Beat Generation, the
Grateful
Dead and other Bohemian bands, outlaw bikers (including the Hell=
s
Angels),
all the way back to... Diogenes and the Cynics. --Colin Pringle
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Ignition
- On the Road in CyberSpace =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.the-wire.com/newjon/what.html">http://www.the-wire.=
com/new
jon/what.html</A>
"I=92m
Jon Newton, a writer living in Toronto, Canada. CyberSpace ...is a=
Black
Hole to
most people who aren=92t online so why not write a kind of CyberS=
pace
On the
Road, after Jack Kerouac?"
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Cassady's
Home Page =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/5160">http://www.geocities.com/S=
oHo/516
0</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
The
William S. Burroughs Files =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.hyperreal.com/wsb/">http://www.hyperreal.com/wsb/</=
A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
burroughs
=3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.peg.apc.org/~firehorse/wsb/wsb.html">http://www.peg=
.apc.or
g/~firehorse/wsb/wsb.html</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
BohemianInk
=3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.levity.com/corduroy/index.htm">http://www.levity.co=
m/cordu
roy/index.htm</A>=20
Special
mention goes to this site for its incredible focus on the art it
promotes,
rather than the personalities who created it.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Jack
Kerouac and the "Beat Generation" =3D
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.virgin.fr/virgin/html/us/nostalgia/route66/beat_gen=
eration
.html">http://www.virgin.fr/virgin/html/us/nostalgia/route66/beat_generat=
ion.h
tml</A>
Weird,
fascinating, filled with inaccuracies, but worth visiting nonethel=
ess,
if only
to experience a French point of view on Jean Louis Kirouac.
PUBLISHERS
BookZen
=3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.bookzen.com">http://www.bookzen.com</A>
WRITING/EDUCATION
Kerouac,
Spontaneous Prose =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/kerouac-spontaneous.=
html">h
ttp://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/kerouac-spontaneous.html</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
English
320W-02: The Beat Generation =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/kerouac-spontaneous.=
html">h
ttp://www.mnsfld.edu/~julrich/beatweb.html</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
The
Writer's Gallery =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html">http=
://www.
onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Ball's
Beat Generation =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.vmi.edu/%7Eenglish/beats.html">http://www.vmi.edu/%=
7Eengli
sh/beats.html</A>
Perhaps
the most unlikely source for Beat links: Home page features Virgi=
nia
Military
Institute cadets in uniform. "Intended Primarily for Students of=
EN
365
This page contains links to multifaceted webs devoted to Kerouac,
Ginsberg,
Burroughs, and other major figures of the Beat Generation."
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.mnsfld.edu/~julrich/beatweb.html">http://www.mnsfld=
.edu/~j
ulrich/beatweb.html</A>
Welcome
to the Internet Resources Page for English 320W-02: The Beat
Generation
Mansfield
University of Pennsylvania=20
CHAT
beat
generation private chatroom =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html">aol:=
//2719:
2-2-beat%20generation</A>
TRIBUTES
Charles
Plymell =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.buchenroth.com/cplymell.html">http://www.buchenroth=
.com/cp
lymell.html</A>
FANTASY
1996
Dharma Beats Roster =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.clark.net/pub/cosmic/96dbr.html">http://www.clark.n=
et/pub/
cosmic/96dbr.html</A>
"Kerouac
managing veterans like Ginsberg and Huncke, along with rookies l=
ike
Kurt
Cobain."=20
MAGAZINES
Steve
Silberman's How Beat was born =3D
<A
HREF=3D"http://ezone.org/ez/e2/articles/digaman.html">http://ezone.org=
/ez/e2/
articles/digaman.html</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
Shambhala
Sun Home Page =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.shambhalasun.com/">http://www.shambhalasun.com/</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
Allen
Ginsberg =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.talk.com/talk/club/special/transcripts/96-12-16-gin=
sberg.h
tml">http://www.talk.com/talk/club/special/transcripts/96-12-16-ginsberg.=
html<
/A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
WIRED
magazine =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://wwww.wired.com/wired/">http://wwww.wired.com/wired/</A>
BOOKSTORES
1 800
KEROUAC - Beat Generation Catalog =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.kerouac.com/">http://www.kerouac.com/</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
Jack
Kerouac at the Iliad =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://host.interloc.com/%7Eiliadbks/kerouac.html">http://host=
.interl
oc.com/%7Eiliadbks/kerouac.html</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
About
Allen Ginsberg =3D Open Book Systems
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.obs-europa.de/obs/english/books/ginsberg/ata.htm">h=
ttp://w
ww.obs-europa.de/obs/english/books/ginsberg/ata.htm</A>
SOUNDS
Kerouac
Speaks =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www-hsc.usc.edu/~gallaher/k_speaks/kerouacspeaks.html">=
http://
www-hsc.usc.edu/~gallaher/k_speaks/kerouacspeaks.html</A>
NEWSGROUPS
<A
HREF=3D"Beat-L@listserv.cuny.edu">Beat-L@listserv.cuny.edu</A>
alt.books.beatgeneration
=3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"aol://5863:126/alt.books.beatgeneration">aol://5863:126/alt.bo=
oks.bea
tgeneration</A>
MUSIC/MULTIMEDIA
Rhino
Records - Catalog - Kerouac, Jack =3D <A HREF=3D"http://rhino.com/s=
earch/art
info.cfm?name=3DKEROUAC,+JACK">http://rhino.com/search/artinfo.cfm?name=3D=
KEROUAC,
+JACK</A>
VERVE
Celebrates Charlie Parker =3D <A HREF=3D"http://www.jazzonln.com/JA=
ZZ/LABELS
/VERVE2/birdhome.htm">http://www.jazzonln.com/JAZZ/LABELS/VERVE2/birdhome=
.htm<
/A>
Sean
Singer's Jazz Literature Page =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu/%7Essinger/">http://ezinfo.ucs.i=
ndiana.
edu/%7Essinger/</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Additions:
Updated 27 October 1997, in no particular order:
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.bibd.appstate.edu/~kh14586/links/beats/">Beat
Lite=
rature<
/A>
good ol' Alex Howard....
http://www.bibd.appstate.edu/~kh14586/links/beats/
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/rothko/31/index.html">Th=
e
Beat=20
Literature
Page</A>=20
http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/rothko/31/index.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/BeatGen.html">The Beat
Genera=
tion:
=20
Audio
and Video Materia...</A>
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/BeatGen.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.compendium-books.com/beat/beatnew.htm">Beat
Books =
and Poe
try
List - General Beat Cul...</A> =20
http://www.compendium-books.com/beat/beatnew.htm
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.bigmagic.com/pages/blackj/column24.html">column24.=
html at
www.bigmagic.com</A>=20
http://www.bigmagic.com/pages/blackj/column24.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://euro.net/mark-space/ElisabethVonarburg2.html">Mark/Spa=
ce: Ana
chron
City: Library: Authors: ...</A>
http://euro.net/mark-space/ElisabethVonarburg2.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://jefferson.village.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Revie=
w_entry
.html">Sixties
Literature: Book, Film, Music and Mul...</A> =20
http://jefferson.village.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Review_entry.html
The
author loses points for not knowing the difference between Dobie Gill=
is
and
Maynard G. Krebs at this site:=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.columbia.edu/acis/bartleby/cjas/11/9.html">Nanes,
=
Susan.=20
1995.
Beat-ing a Dead Horse. CJ...</A>=20
http://www.columbia.edu/acis/bartleby/cjas/11/9.html
Levi
Asher: always bears repeating:
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.charm.net/~brooklyn/Topics/BeatSources.html">Books=
About=20
The
Beats</A>
http://www.charm.net/~brooklyn/Topics/BeatSources.html=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.sfnorthbeach.com/jul96.html">And The Beach Goes
On=
..July=20
1996</A>=20
http://www.sfnorthbeach.com/jul96.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.waterrowbooks.com/wrcatalog3.html">wrcatalog3.html=
at www
.waterrowbooks.com</A>=20
http://www.waterrowbooks.com/wrcatalog3.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.dtx.net/~vonhalem/kerouac.html">kerouac.html at
ww=
w.dtx.n
et</A>=20
http://www.dtx.net/~vonhalem/kerouac.html
If you
seek enlightenment, or maybe need a reference point as you make yo=
ur
way
through "Some of the Dharma:"
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.ciolek.com/WWWVLPages/BuddhPages/Daily-Zen-Sutras.=
html">B
uddhist
Studies - Daily Zen Sutras</A>=20
http://www.ciolek.com/WWWVLPages/BuddhPages/Daily-Zen-Sutras.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.fmp.com/amram/kerouac.html">Jack Kerouac and
David=
Amram<
/A>=20
http://www.fmp.com/amram/kerouac.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.citylights.com/">Welcome to City Lights
Bookseller=
s and P
ublis...</A>=20
http://www.citylights.com/
If
you're looking for Beat books to collect:
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.abebooks.com/">The Advanced Book Exchange Home
Page=
</A>=20
http://www.abebooks.com/
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.rmisp.com/kerouac/">jack-K</A>=20
http://www.rmisp.com/kerouac/
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.theatlantic.com/atlantic/issues/96aug/jackk/jackk.=
htm">Th
e Only
People For Him</A>=20
http://www.theatlantic.com/atlantic/issues/96aug/jackk/jackk.htm
<A HREF=3D"http://www.biography.com/read/reviews/jackk.html">Biography's=
Top 10
List-Jack Kerouac</A>=20
http://www.biography.com/read/reviews/jackk.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://users.aol.com/paulcllins/resindex.html">The Garden
of =
Forking
Paths: Green</A>=20
http://users.aol.com/paulcllins/resindex.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.tvguide.com/tv/poetry/ginsberg.htm">Allen
Ginsberg=
interv
iew</A>=20
http://www.tvguide.com/tv/poetry/ginsberg.htm
<A
HREF=3D"aol://4344:125.oct97_36.1331404.558905965">WILLIAM S.
BURROUG=
HS: 191
4-1997:
The Priest</A>=20
aol://4344:125.oct97_36.1331404.558905965
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.viperroom.com/Kerouactimes.html">KEROUAC
TRIBUTE-L=
A TIMES
REVIEW</A>=20
http://www.viperroom.com/Kerouactimes.html
<A HREF=3D"http://www.mainelink.net/~writer/cafe_html/spring_95/spring.h=
tml">SP
RING
95</A>=20
http://www.mainelink.net/~writer/cafe_html/spring_95/spring.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.lisp.wayne.edu/beat.html">Beatniks on the
Internet=
</A>=20
http://www.lisp.wayne.edu/beat.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://members.aol.com/KEROUACZIN/DHARMAbeat.htlm">DHARMA
bea=
t's Hom
e
Page</A>=20
http://members.aol.com/KEROUACZIN/DHARMAbeat.htlm
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.freeyellow.com/members/upstartcrow/page1.html">The=
Keroua
c
Quarterly</A>=20
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/upstartcrow/page1.html
I don't
know about you, but this next thing made me completely ill. Let m=
e
know
what you think:
<A
HREF=3D"http://www2.linknet.net/fahey/Wisdom/">Wisdom's Maw - Now
Ava=
ilable!
</A>=20
http://www2.linknet.net/fahey/Wisdom/
Not so
Beat, but good for dessert:
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.netsurf.org/~stampf/KamaSutra/">The Love
Teachings=
of Kam
a
Sutra</A>=20
http://www.netsurf.org/~stampf/KamaSutra/
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:50:36 -0500
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On Sun,
26 Oct 1997, R. Bentz Kirby wrote:
>
America is a pine tree in South Carolina.
>
> On
the other hand, some folks would like to forget South Carolina.
>
I think
South Carolina is the realization of a great oxymoron: anarchist
government. No one tells them what to do but them.
------------------
Alex
Howard (704)264-8259 Appalachian State
University
kh14586@am.appstate.edu P.O. Box 12149
http://www1.appstate.edu/~kh14586 Boone, NC 28608
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From: Jennifer Stoner Dorson
<JenPeace2U@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: beat websites: updated today
Diane
the
list was quite extensive...so I guess I know where I will be spending
my next
few days...I just wanted to say thanks for sharing it.
peace
jen
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Jen---
these should be hot, and save you lots of time. Click on blue
lines....
diane
COMPASS
POINTS ON THE cyberROAD
"Route
66 can be read in two directions. First stop on this page : Jack
Kerouac
and the 'Beat Generation', a coast to coast trip down the legenda=
ry
highway,
in the footsteps of the beatniks. A page of history. Second stop=
:
Jack
Kerouac and the 'Byte Generation', where we take a virtual stroll,
seeking
memories of Route 66 in the Web universe. Or when the mouse repla=
ces
the
car... " --From the intro to
"Jack Kerouac and the "Beat Generation"
home
page
EVENTS
LCKerouac
Festival Page =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://members.aol.com/lckerouac/festival.htm">http://members.=
aol.com
/lckerouac/festival.htm</A>
SITES
WITH LINKS
Literary
Kicks =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.charm.net/%7Ebrooklyn/LitKicks.html">http://www.cha=
rm.net/
%7Ebrooklyn/LitKicks.html</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
The
Unofficial WSB website =3D
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.peg.apc.org/~firehorse/wsb/wsb.html">http://www.peg=
.apc.or
g/~firehorse/wsb/wsb.html</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
The
Wild Bohemian Home Page =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.halcyon.com/colinp/bohemian.htm">http://www.halcyon=
.com/co
linp/bohemian.htm</A>
"Included
here are links to pages about Hippies, the Beat Generation, the
Grateful
Dead and other Bohemian bands, outlaw bikers (including the Hell=
s
Angels),
all the way back to... Diogenes and the Cynics. --Colin Pringle
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Ignition
- On the Road in CyberSpace =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.the-wire.com/newjon/what.html">http://www.the-wire.=
com/new
jon/what.html</A>
"I=92m
Jon Newton, a writer living in Toronto, Canada. CyberSpace ...is a=
Black
Hole to
most people who aren=92t online so why not write a kind of CyberS=
pace
On the
Road, after Jack Kerouac?"
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Cassady's
Home Page =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/5160">http://www.geocities.com/S=
oHo/516
0</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
The
William S. Burroughs Files =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.hyperreal.com/wsb/">http://www.hyperreal.com/wsb/</=
A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
burroughs
=3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.peg.apc.org/~firehorse/wsb/wsb.html">http://www.peg=
.apc.or
g/~firehorse/wsb/wsb.html</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
BohemianInk
=3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.levity.com/corduroy/index.htm">http://www.levity.co=
m/cordu
roy/index.htm</A>=20
Special
mention goes to this site for its incredible focus on the art it
promotes,
rather than the personalities who created it.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Jack
Kerouac and the "Beat Generation" =3D
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.virgin.fr/virgin/html/us/nostalgia/route66/beat_gen=
eration
.html">http://www.virgin.fr/virgin/html/us/nostalgia/route66/beat_generat=
ion.h
tml</A>
Weird,
fascinating, filled with inaccuracies, but worth visiting nonethel=
ess,
if only
to experience a French point of view on Jean Louis Kirouac.
PUBLISHERS
BookZen
=3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.bookzen.com">http://www.bookzen.com</A>
WRITING/EDUCATION
Kerouac,
Spontaneous Prose =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/kerouac-spontaneous.=
html">h
ttp://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/kerouac-spontaneous.html</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
English
320W-02: The Beat Generation =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/kerouac-spontaneous.=
html">h
ttp://www.mnsfld.edu/~julrich/beatweb.html</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
The
Writer's Gallery =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html">http=
://www.
onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Ball's
Beat Generation =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.vmi.edu/%7Eenglish/beats.html">http://www.vmi.edu/%=
7Eengli
sh/beats.html</A>
Perhaps
the most unlikely source for Beat links: Home page features Virgi=
nia
Military
Institute cadets in uniform. "Intended Primarily for Students of=
EN
365 This
page contains links to multifaceted webs devoted to Kerouac,
Ginsberg,
Burroughs, and other major figures of the Beat Generation."
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.mnsfld.edu/~julrich/beatweb.html">http://www.mnsfld=
.edu/~j
ulrich/beatweb.html</A>
Welcome
to the Internet Resources Page for English 320W-02: The Beat
Generation
Mansfield
University of Pennsylvania=20
CHAT
beat
generation private chatroom =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html">aol:=
//2719:
2-2-beat%20generation</A>
TRIBUTES
Charles
Plymell =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.buchenroth.com/cplymell.html">http://www.buchenroth=
.com/cp
lymell.html</A>
FANTASY
1996
Dharma Beats Roster =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.clark.net/pub/cosmic/96dbr.html">http://www.clark.n=
et/pub/
cosmic/96dbr.html</A>
"Kerouac
managing veterans like Ginsberg and Huncke, along with rookies l=
ike
Kurt
Cobain."=20
MAGAZINES
Steve
Silberman's How Beat was born =3D
<A
HREF=3D"http://ezone.org/ez/e2/articles/digaman.html">http://ezone.org=
/ez/e2/
articles/digaman.html</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
Shambhala
Sun Home Page =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.shambhalasun.com/">http://www.shambhalasun.com/</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
Allen
Ginsberg =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.talk.com/talk/club/special/transcripts/96-12-16-gin=
sberg.h
tml">http://www.talk.com/talk/club/special/transcripts/96-12-16-ginsberg.=
html<
/A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
WIRED
magazine =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://wwww.wired.com/wired/">http://wwww.wired.com/wired/</A>
BOOKSTORES
1 800
KEROUAC - Beat Generation Catalog =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.kerouac.com/">http://www.kerouac.com/</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
Jack
Kerouac at the Iliad =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://host.interloc.com/%7Eiliadbks/kerouac.html">http://host=
.interl
oc.com/%7Eiliadbks/kerouac.html</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
About
Allen Ginsberg =3D Open Book Systems
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.obs-europa.de/obs/english/books/ginsberg/ata.htm">h=
ttp://w
ww.obs-europa.de/obs/english/books/ginsberg/ata.htm</A>
SOUNDS
Kerouac
Speaks =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www-hsc.usc.edu/~gallaher/k_speaks/kerouacspeaks.html">=
http://
www-hsc.usc.edu/~gallaher/k_speaks/kerouacspeaks.html</A>
NEWSGROUPS
<A
HREF=3D"Beat-L@listserv.cuny.edu">Beat-L@listserv.cuny.edu</A>
alt.books.beatgeneration
=3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"aol://5863:126/alt.books.beatgeneration">aol://5863:126/alt.bo=
oks.bea
tgeneration</A>
MUSIC/MULTIMEDIA
Rhino
Records - Catalog - Kerouac, Jack =3D <A HREF=3D"http://rhino.com/s=
earch/art
info.cfm?name=3DKEROUAC,+JACK">http://rhino.com/search/artinfo.cfm?name=3D=
KEROUAC,
+JACK</A>
VERVE
Celebrates Charlie Parker =3D <A HREF=3D"http://www.jazzonln.com/JA=
ZZ/LABELS
/VERVE2/birdhome.htm">http://www.jazzonln.com/JAZZ/LABELS/VERVE2/birdhome=
.htm<
/A>
Sean
Singer's Jazz Literature Page =3D=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu/%7Essinger/">http://ezinfo.ucs.i=
ndiana.
edu/%7Essinger/</A>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Additions:
Updated 27 October 1997, in no particular order:
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.bibd.appstate.edu/~kh14586/links/beats/">Beat
Lite=
rature<
/A>
good ol' Alex Howard....
http://www.bibd.appstate.edu/~kh14586/links/beats/
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/rothko/31/index.html">Th=
e
Beat=20
Literature
Page</A>=20
http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/rothko/31/index.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/BeatGen.html">The Beat
Genera=
tion:
=20
Audio
and Video Materia...</A>
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/BeatGen.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.compendium-books.com/beat/beatnew.htm">Beat
Books =
and Poe
try
List - General Beat Cul...</A> =20
http://www.compendium-books.com/beat/beatnew.htm
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.bigmagic.com/pages/blackj/column24.html">column24.=
html at
www.bigmagic.com</A>=20
http://www.bigmagic.com/pages/blackj/column24.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://euro.net/mark-space/ElisabethVonarburg2.html">Mark/Spa=
ce: Ana
chron
City: Library: Authors: ...</A>
http://euro.net/mark-space/ElisabethVonarburg2.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://jefferson.village.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Revie=
w_entry
.html">Sixties
Literature: Book, Film, Music and Mul...</A> =20
http://jefferson.village.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Review_entry.html
The
author loses points for not knowing the difference between Dobie Gill=
is
and
Maynard G. Krebs at this site:=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.columbia.edu/acis/bartleby/cjas/11/9.html">Nanes,
=
Susan.=20
1995.
Beat-ing a Dead Horse. CJ...</A>=20
http://www.columbia.edu/acis/bartleby/cjas/11/9.html
Levi
Asher: always bears repeating:
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.charm.net/~brooklyn/Topics/BeatSources.html">Books=
About=20
The
Beats</A>
http://www.charm.net/~brooklyn/Topics/BeatSources.html=20
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.sfnorthbeach.com/jul96.html">And The Beach Goes
On=
..July=20
1996</A>=20
http://www.sfnorthbeach.com/jul96.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.waterrowbooks.com/wrcatalog3.html">wrcatalog3.html=
at www
.waterrowbooks.com</A>=20
http://www.waterrowbooks.com/wrcatalog3.html
<A HREF=3D"http://www.dtx.net/~vonhalem/kerouac.html">kerouac.html
at ww=
w.dtx.n
et</A>=20
http://www.dtx.net/~vonhalem/kerouac.html
If you
seek enlightenment, or maybe need a reference point as you make yo=
ur
way
through "Some of the Dharma:"
<A HREF=3D"http://www.ciolek.com/WWWVLPages/BuddhPages/Daily-Zen-Sutras.=
html">B
uddhist
Studies - Daily Zen Sutras</A>=20
http://www.ciolek.com/WWWVLPages/BuddhPages/Daily-Zen-Sutras.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.fmp.com/amram/kerouac.html">Jack Kerouac and
David=
Amram<
/A>=20
http://www.fmp.com/amram/kerouac.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.citylights.com/">Welcome to City Lights
Bookseller=
s and P
ublis...</A>=20
http://www.citylights.com/
If
you're looking for Beat books to collect:
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.abebooks.com/">The Advanced Book Exchange Home
Page=
</A>=20
http://www.abebooks.com/
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.rmisp.com/kerouac/">jack-K</A>=20
http://www.rmisp.com/kerouac/
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.theatlantic.com/atlantic/issues/96aug/jackk/jackk.=
htm">Th
e Only
People For Him</A>=20
http://www.theatlantic.com/atlantic/issues/96aug/jackk/jackk.htm
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.biography.com/read/reviews/jackk.html">Biography's=
Top 10
List-Jack Kerouac</A>=20
http://www.biography.com/read/reviews/jackk.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://users.aol.com/paulcllins/resindex.html">The Garden
of =
Forking
Paths: Green</A>=20
http://users.aol.com/paulcllins/resindex.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.tvguide.com/tv/poetry/ginsberg.htm">Allen
Ginsberg=
interv
iew</A>=20
http://www.tvguide.com/tv/poetry/ginsberg.htm
<A
HREF=3D"aol://4344:125.oct97_36.1331404.558905965">WILLIAM S.
BURROUG=
HS: 191
4-1997:
The Priest</A>=20
aol://4344:125.oct97_36.1331404.558905965
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.viperroom.com/Kerouactimes.html">KEROUAC
TRIBUTE-L=
A TIMES
REVIEW</A>=20
http://www.viperroom.com/Kerouactimes.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.mainelink.net/~writer/cafe_html/spring_95/spring.h=
tml">SP
RING
95</A>=20
http://www.mainelink.net/~writer/cafe_html/spring_95/spring.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.lisp.wayne.edu/beat.html">Beatniks on the
Internet=
</A>=20
http://www.lisp.wayne.edu/beat.html
<A
HREF=3D"http://members.aol.com/KEROUACZIN/DHARMAbeat.htlm">DHARMA
bea=
t's Hom
e
Page</A>=20
http://members.aol.com/KEROUACZIN/DHARMAbeat.htlm
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.freeyellow.com/members/upstartcrow/page1.html">The=
Keroua
c
Quarterly</A>=20
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/upstartcrow/page1.html
I don't
know about you, but this next thing made me completely ill. Let m=
e
know
what you think:
<A
HREF=3D"http://www2.linknet.net/fahey/Wisdom/">Wisdom's Maw - Now
Ava=
ilable!
</A>=20
http://www2.linknet.net/fahey/Wisdom/
Not so
Beat, but good for dessert:
<A
HREF=3D"http://www.netsurf.org/~stampf/KamaSutra/">The Love
Teachings=
of Kam
a
Sutra</A>=20
http://www.netsurf.org/~stampf/KamaSutra/
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Subject: sorry about the duplication...
meant
to send it to jen directly, of course. didn't check my "To:" box.
Must
be
getting a bad case of Staufferitis.
hee hee
hee....
diane
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From: "THE ZET'S GOOD."
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Subject: Re: Steal this book
As a
librarian, I know that we (here at Kenyon college) stamp "DISCARD" on
any
old
library books we get rid of. If you want to boycott stolen books , you
might
avoid ex-library copies that do not have a DISCARD stamp in them. I think
this
practice is fairly common. Of course I say this after having bought a nice
ex-library
copy of BIG SUR a few years ago (and also and ex-lib copy of Phillip
K.
Dick's DO ANDROIDS DREAM OF ELECTRIC SHEEP). As any devout buyer of used
books
knows, ex-library copies are not worth much in the investment dept. They
generally
have the same statues as "READING COPIES." Once a book has been
stamped
and bar coded, the price goes down. So buyer beware, choose as yer
concious
directs!
dave B.
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>I
think the Florida marlins just won the World seies. Renteria hit one up
>the
middle in the 11th.
>
>Tony
Fernandez was "the goat" (always unfair to call someone the goat to
my
>mind--but
they do) was Livan Hernandez the MVP.
This guy is just 22 years
>old
and he had to escape from Cuba (escape--run away--flee) to come to the
>US
and play.
>
>Go
figure.
>
>"I
love you Miami" is what he shouted.
Mr.
Gallaher,
After
hearing about the game this morning I was really sorry I didn't stop
work
and watch it last night. Hernandez is an incredible baseball player.
As
baeball fans know, Cuba has a reputation for developing outstanding
baseball
players. One ponly has to check the history of how their teams do
in the
Olympics.
Also,
he didn't have to "escape--run away--flee" Cuba to play baseball, he
had to
leave Cuba to become a millionare baseball player.
I have
no problem with that, but there are many who would call him a
"gusano."
That's unfair because so many Cubans in
the U.S. send money to
their
relatives in Cuba.
It
hasn't been easy on that tiny island with the most powerful nation on
earth
doing everything in it's power--short of invasion and all-out war--to
break
their economic back.
j grant
Small Press Authors and Publishers
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At
08:35 AM 10/27/97 -0500, Phil Chaput wrote: I think anyone would be a
fool to
only get
>one
million for it. Gerry, I'm sure John really appreciates all your help
>but
somehow I don't think he needs you to negotiate a deal with a library
>for
him. Phil Chaput
>
Phil, Oct 27, 1997
The libraries I mentioned, offering a
million bucks for the Kerouac
Archive,
are the richest in the country. No
library has got more than a
million
(or maybe a million and a quarter, tops) to offer. The only way Mr.
Sampas
can get more is by selling the stuff off to collectors and dealers.
Then he
can get a lot more, like about twenty million dollars (estimate
given
me by several Beat dealers).
Is that what you support--a return to
the public marketing of pieces
of the
archive?
P.S. I offered my help because Maher
and others claim it is the
lawsuit
that prevents the deposit of Kerouac materials in a library.
Respectfully, your father's friend
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At
03:03 AM 10/27/97 -0500, Attila Gyenis wrote:
>And
I always supported the fact that Jack's archives should be publicly
>available
as Jack intended. I just don't think Jack intended you to handle
>it...
I have NEVER seen Jan's depositions
>(or
your deposition).
Dear
Attila, Oct 27, 1997
Jack sure as hell didn't intend the
Sampases to take care of his
archive. He wrote to Paul Blake, Jr. on October 20,
1997, just before he
fell
ill: "I just wanted to leave my 'estate' (which is what it really is)
to
someone directly connected with the last remaining drop of my direct
blood
line, which is, me sister Carolyn, your Mom, and not to leave a
dingblasted
f------g think to my wife's one hundred Greek relatives."
On the other hand, I have in my
possession signed statements from
both
Paul Blake, Jr. and Jan Kerouac--who are the last remaining "drops of
his
direct blood line"--stating that they wish me to care for Jack Kerouac's
archive.
Jan's will reads: "As to these
[Jack Kerouac's] literary works and
materials,
I appoint GERALD NICOSIA as Literary Executor.
In his capacity
as
Literary Executor, he shall make all decisions regarding the appropriate
publication,
republication, sale, license, or any other exploitation of any
nature
of any intellectual property rights... [of these materials]."
The statement made by Paul Blake reads in part: "Gerald
Nicosia is
authorized
to seek information about libraries or other educational
institutions
capable of housing and making available for study the literary
archive
of my Uncle Jack Kerouac."
In view of all this, how do you
support your contention that John
Sampas
should be in control of Kerouac's archive?
P.S. I'm still trying to figure out
how several mistakes from Jan's
deposition
showed up in only one other place: YOUR POSTS.
Like the fact
that
Jan was supposedly "on Medicaid."
Mr. Sampas's lawyer made this
mistake
in the deposition, and it is a pretty dumb one, since you have to
earn
less than $600 a month to get on Medicaid, and everybody (certainly
you)
knew that Jan was making more than $600 a month. Did you talk to
someone
who'd read the deposition?
Respectfully, Gerald Nicosia
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Diane
De Rooy wrote:
>
>
Not so Beat, but good for dessert:
> <A
HREF="http://www.netsurf.org/~stampf/KamaSutra/">The Love
Teachings of Kam
> a
Sutra</A>
> http://www.netsurf.org/~stampf/KamaSutra/
ain't
bad for a naked breakfast either!
david
rhaesa
salina,
Kansas
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Hi to
everyone! Oct 27, 1997
Just wanted to explain that I'll be
scarce for a few days since I'm
headed
down to L.A. to collect the PEN USA CENTER WEST award for the Bob
Kaufman
book I edited (posthumously) called CRANIAL GUITAR (Coffee House
Press). Bob's book was picked as the best poetry
book in the Western United
States
last year. The awards ceremony is at
the Biltmore in downtown L.A.
starting
6:30 Tuesday evening. Supposed to be
movie stars reading the
award-winning
books. Sounds like a kick.
Best always, Gerry Nicosia
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Get out
the blue ribbon folks!
(...and apologies in advance
now that I see how I did go
on and
on! Anyone know the music of Chick Brodsky? He has a brilliant song
about
being bored silly by some self-involved person...not me of course!)
Attila,
There have been some interesting psots
from both sides of the estate
divide,
but this is among the best and the current blue medal winner.
...sorry Gerry, but it all sounds very
sane, reasonable and very,
very
convincing. The rabidness of your attacks and those of Wallner have
slowly
worked to erode my sympathies for "the cause."
I know "rabid" will be seen
as a strong - too strong - word and I
await
the spin you will put on it...and the way you will weave it into all
the
other "humiliations' of the past estate battles. I use
"hmiliations"
because
it carries special meaning here in my province of Quebec. The
separatist
forces regularly decry the "humiliations" that they have been
subjected
to without ever being able to satisfactorily detail who did what
to who
and what sort of outcome they hope for.
Sorry for the digression, and perhaps
the inept comparison, but
great
authorship - greatness in any field - is no surety that one will excel
in
other fields of endeavour; your presentation and debate of the issue has
hurt
"the cause.'
One of many points I would strenuously
argue against: you have said
repeatedly
that while you were away from the list the "gang of (pick a
number)"
regularly sang the praises of John Sampas and sniped at you; never
happened!!
Not in my recollection. Whoever was reporting back to you from
the
list was misleading you.
Notwithstanding the estate miasma, I
stay on the list because it is
endlessly
fascinating and informative. I have a big bin of stuff that I've
saved
for reference or have used to fuel my own research in my own areas of
interest.
There's stuff in there from Phil Chaput, Gerry Nicosia, Joe Grant,
Jeffrey
Weinberg, Levi Asher, Attila Gyenis, Pat Elliot, Bill Morgan, Diane
DuRooy,
Marie and Derek and David and Bill Gargan....the list is long - I
just
want to stop hearing spite and continue to have fun.
And PLEASE - stop with the smarmy
respectfully yours, etc.
I challenge you to grab my interest
with something, in the way you
did
when you spoke about your father...or about several other topics.
Antoine (check out my sig file below! That goes for me in spades!)
Voice contact at (514) 933-4956 in Montreal
"Blessed are they who can laugh at
themselves, for they shall never
cease
to be amused."
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From: "Timothy K. Gallaher"
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At
03:03 AM 10/27/97 -0500, you wrote:
>The
people who are stealing Kerouac books aren't stealing them to read. They
>are
stealing them to resell to used bookstores. It is very hard to find used
>Kerouac
used books (since everyone keeps theirs for life).
That's
proabably a very good point. I'll bet
you are right. I see few
Kerouac
books at used bookstores and it has always been that way.
But, I
gave away all my kerouac books about 7 years ago. So now I have only
SF
Blues (the little Penguin edition), The Letters and now Some of the
Dharma. It hinders me here for discussions of the
boooks in that although I
have
read them and reread them it's been a long time ago now and I don't
have
them to look at to refresh my memories and make comments.
In
other words I am saying not everyone keeps them forever.
I know
that is the
>case
in NYC. So I don't think it is the people on this list who are stealing
>them
(?or are you). Kerouac books, good as gold.
>
>someone
wrote:
>>>
Now I'm hearing that followers of the beat generation are notorious book
>thieves
in some areas. What does that say about
the Beat ethic? Do any of
>you
bookstore employees on this list know of other books and genres that are
>eminently
stealable? I can't believe that in the
whole wide world of books,
>only
Beat Generation
>topics
inspire theft. ..
>
>
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I
noticed this before the first time oyu posted this nice list.
There
is something strange.
These
links:
The
Writer's Gallery =
<A
HREF="http://www.onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html">http://www.
onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html</A>
============================================
beat
generation private chatroom =
<A
HREF="http://www.onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html">aol://2719:
2-2-beat%20generation</A>
These links
to
http://www.onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html
are to
a story I wrote. I am very pleased to
see it here in this list
(twice
even) but it doesn't really have anything to do with the Beats except
if you
consider eating pancakes beat.
Just
thought I would point that out. I link
to it from my Kerouac Speaks
page si
maybe that's how it got on the list.
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At
11:48 AM 10/27/97 -0600, you wrote:
>>I
think the Florida marlins just won the World seies. Renteria hit one up
>>the
middle in the 11th.
>>
>>Tony
Fernandez was "the goat" (always unfair to call someone the goat to
my
>>mind--but
they do) was Livan Hernandez the MVP.
This guy is just 22 years
>>old
and he had to escape from Cuba (escape--run away--flee) to come to the
>>US
and play.
>>
>>Go
figure.
>>
>>"I
love you Miami" is what he shouted.
>
>Mr.
Gallaher,
>
>After
hearing about the game this morning I was really sorry I didn't stop
>work
and watch it last night. Hernandez is an incredible baseball player.
>As
baeball fans know, Cuba has a reputation for developing outstanding
>baseball
players. One ponly has to check the history of how their teams do
>in
the Olympics.
>
>Also,
he didn't have to "escape--run away--flee" Cuba to play baseball, he
>had
to leave Cuba to become a millionare baseball player.
>
>I
have no problem with that, but there are many who would call him a
>"gusano."
What's
a "gusano"?
And he
did have to run away. He left in Mexico
when the Cuban team was
playing
there. He did not have permission. Rene Arocha was the first Cuban
ball
player to do that and he literally ran away.
>That's
unfair because so many Cubans in the
U.S. send money to
>their
relatives in Cuba.
>
>It
hasn't been easy on that tiny island with the most powerful nation on
>earth
doing everything in it's power--short of invasion and all-out war--to
>break
their economic back.
>
>j
grant
>
>
>
>
>
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Antoine,
Thnaks
for your thoughtful post on the "estate miasma". I concurr
completely
with your view. Reasonableness and a
quiet, sure tone gain
respect. Constant aspersions on the motives of others
don't. Like you,
I
remember no dirt being slung at Gerry during his abscense. If the
discussion
could follow the sort of tone that Attila has used I think we
all
would learn more about what the "facts" (if we will ever know them)
are. More light.
Less heat.
Antoine
Maloney wrote:
>
>
Get out the blue ribbon folks!
> There have been some interesting
psots from both sides of the estate
>
divide, but this is among the best and the current blue medal winner.
>
> ...sorry Gerry, but it (Attilla's
post) all sounds very sane,
reasonable and very,
>
very convincing. The rabidness of your attacks and those of Wallner have
>
slowly worked to erode my sympathies for "the cause."
And
Lord knows your signature line goes double for me!
J.
Stauffer
>
> "Blessed are they who can laugh at
themselves, for they shall never
>
cease to be amused."
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respectfully
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At
01:25 PM 10/27/97 -0500, Antoine Malone wrote:
> One of many points I would strenuously
argue against: you have said
>repeatedly
that while you were away from the list the "gang of (pick a
>number)"
regularly sang the praises of John Sampas and sniped at you; never
>happened!!
Not in my recollection. Whoever was reporting back to you from
>the
list was misleading you.
.....
>
> And PLEASE - stop with the smarmy
respectfully yours, etc.
>
Dear
Antoine, Oct 27, 1997
I NEVER said they attacked me while I
was off the Beat-List. I did
say
they said what a great custodian John Sampas was of the archive (I have
the
posts, they were forwarded to me) as well as promoting Sampas-approved
events,
like Kerouac Week in Lowell (at which poor Jan remained more than a
ghost).
I can only say I'm glad lots of people
on the list feel differently
than
you. I have received supporting posts
from dozens of people during
this
latest blitz. And besides, my all-time
hero is not Jack Kerouac but
another
Franco-American named Henry David Thoreau, who said, "Any man more
right
than his neighbors constitutes a majority of one already."
As far as "respectfully," my
parents taught me to respect everyone,
and when
I say it, it's a lot more sincere than Mr. Maher saying "Let's be
friends"
and then blasting me in the very next post.
Respectfully (and not smarmily) yours,
Gerald Nicosia
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>Personally
I would love to see all the archives in a library at some
>point,
>as
I'm sure all of you would but I think anyone would be a fool to only
>get
>one
million for it. Gerry, I'm sure John really appreciates all your
>help
>but
somehow I don't think he needs you to negotiate a deal with a
>library
>for
him. Phil Chaput
Herein, Mr. Chaput, lies the essential
problem; "I think anyone
would
be a fool to only get one million for it." Jack, as I can in all
sureness
declare, did not write the vast number of books he did that he
might
make anyone, with the exclusion of himself, wealthy. Nor did he
meticulously
archive his material so that a profit might be made from
it by
Mr. Sampas some 30 years later. Whether
or not the profit
belongs
to the Kerouac estate or goes directly into Mr. Sampas' pockets
is
irrelevant; money cannot be the determining factor concerning the
archives. The blatantly simple facts: (1) Jack wants
his archives
preserved
and accessible, not privately hoarded.
(2) More than one
library
is greatly interested in obtaining the archives for such
purposes
as Jack intended, libraries willing to pay one million dollars
for
said archive, libraries with the funds to properly care for the
archives. (3) Mr. Sampas, whether legitimately or not
as yet to be
determined,
has the authority to place such archives in their proper
place,
fulfilling Jack's wishes, and making a cool million at the same
time
(wherever that million legally becomes distributed). Now, I think
most
folks will agree with me when I say that, to mine eyes, there is
obviously
only one thing standing in the way of the correct course of
action:
Greed. A greed manifested by Spite,
Jealousy, Vendetta, Anger
at the
past and at what one man was not afraid to place in writing
concerning
certain persons. Talk about
vanity. Now you can say I
don't
know the severity of what rides on all this politics, or that
it's
easy to take on an air of idealism when I'm not the person who has
to make
these choices, or stands to make loads of cash. But, Mr.
Chaput,
Mr. Sampas, and others involved, it doesn't take much thinking
to see
what needs to and should be done. Yes,
this has all been said
before
in one form or another, but the fact remains that the bullshit
continues. "Gerry Nicosia's lame pursuits are what's
holding up the
availabillity
of the archives." Bullshit! Anyone
on this list can see
that's
as bogus a claim as possible.
Interesting how Mr. Sampas
possesses
enough power to instill fear of retribution in so many
people,
proof of which can be found in the various exclusions of Jan
from
Jack-related events, yet he cannot make available the Kerouac
archives,
which he's been trying to do for oh so long, because of Mr.
Nicosia. Do you or Mr. Sampas actually expect anyone
to believe that?
This
whole situation has a raunchy taste to it, Phil, very raunchy.
Tyson Ouellette
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beat-L'ers
As many
of you know, for the last year i have been making linoleum block
prints
which i have distributed all over the net (some of which are slated
for
possible publication from _bulldog breath_, _william s. burroughs:
calling
the toads_, _william s. borroughs: ghost of steel_, and _beat
scene_.
also - i recently completed a print which was used for the
promotional
poster of the RANT in louisville, KY reading organized by
Bohemian
Ink and Published in Heaven Press.) also - several readers of
beat-L
have my prints (off the top of my head i can think of rod anstee,
marie
countryman, gerry nicosia, ron whitehead, antoine maloney, and
around
a dozen others i think).
I have recently finished a new print of dizzy gillespie and
charlie
parker entitled "diz'n'bird", in a limited edition of 4
prints
(with 1 Artist's Proof) with an image size of approx. 6"x6" and
printed
on japanese woodblock paper.
I am really happy with these prints
and i will not be reprinting
them
either for a new edition or for publication (once they're gone,
they're
gone)
I am offering these prints for sale
at $12.00 US each (including
shipping
& postage) if anyone is interested.
Please let me know if any of you are
interested in purchasing one
of
these prints, its a work that im proud of and im sure you would like as
well.
yrs
derek beaulieu
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at my
library, they sell all the books that have never been checked
out in
a few years for about a buck. i found some pretty good stuff
there,
and some crap.but they donot have discard stamps on them. is
jacksonville
just behind or is DISCARDing stamping a college library
thing?
randy
> As
a librarian, I know that we (here at Kenyon college) stamp "DISCARD"
on any
>
old library books we get rid of. If you want to boycott stolen books , you
>
might avoid ex-library copies that do not have a DISCARD stamp in them. I
think
>
this practice is fairly common. Of course I say this after having bought a
nice
>
ex-library copy of BIG SUR a few years ago (and also and ex-lib copy of
Phillip
> K.
Dick's DO ANDROIDS DREAM OF ELECTRIC SHEEP). As any devout buyer of used
>
books knows, ex-library copies are not worth much in the investment dept. They
>
generally have the same statues as "READING COPIES." Once a book has
been
>
stamped and bar coded, the price goes down. So buyer beware, choose as yer
>
concious directs!
>
>
dave B.
>
>
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cannot get any messages for more than 2 days.
Yrs
Murat Balkose
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On Thu,
23 Oct 1997 16:36:00 -0400 Icychick34@AOL.COM wrote:
>
From: Icychick34@AOL.COM> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:36:00
-0400
>
Subject: HELP PLEASE!!!!!!
>
To: BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
>
>
hello,
>
let me start off by saying that my name is kristina and i
am a 19
year old in
>
need of help. i am writing a research paper about William
S.
Burroughs novel j
>
unky. i was wondering if you could help me by finding or
offering
critical
>
opinions of the book for me as soon as possible. anything
you
could come up
>
with would be greatly appreciated. thank you.
>
sincerely,
>
kristina ames e-mail:
ICYCHICK34@SOL.COM
I don't
think kristina is on the list, since I directed her
to it
for more help on her question (she found my web page
or
something), so if you're replying it might be a good idea
to mail
me directly. ALternatively, she might
be on the
list,
and I might have just deleted her subscribe message
with
all the bullshit estate state (sorry, no offense,
please
don't kill me, but it's BORING) (Tom - not sounding
like a
ten year old, really....)
It's
Monday night! And it's... tedious. Two more hours and
I can
go to the pub... oh the joy...
Tom. H.
http://www.uea.ac.uk/~w9624759
"When
the going gets wierd, the wierd turn pro."
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At
03:03 AM 10/27/97 -0500, Attila Gyenis wrote:
>
>I
haven't lived near Lowell for over a year and a half (I used to live in New
>Hampshire).
Actually, we are practically neighbors since I am now living here
>in
northern California (Eureka).
Hi,
Neighbor! Oct 27, 1997
One quick question. You claim you've been away from Lowell for a
year
and a half. Yet I just received the
DHARMA BEAT, which you edit and
publish,
and the address of the magazine is Lowell, Massachusetts. Can you
explain
this discrepancy?
Also, I sent you several corrections
of glaring errors in your
latest
issue, such as the fact that Jack never saw Neal while living in
Berkeley
in 1957. Did you get those
corrections? I sent them to your
Lowell
address. If not, where should I send
them?
Best always, Gerry Nicosia
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Marie and all,
sorry I didn't post yet, but I just
checked my email today. (all 190 posts)
Ever since stumbling on Harry Smith's
work at Naropa in 1993. I have
awaited the reissue of his anthology. I
was glad to find that it has been
reissued with all of Harry's original
artwork/notes. The magnitude of this
anthology cannot not be understated. The
music is haunting. An america
already gone. These are the real voices
of America. One can only imagine
what it would have been to hear these
voices in 1952 at the height of the
McCarthy era.
I have just barely skimmed the surface of
this collection. I think that
this would be a great thread on this list
if others who have this set could
comment. Harry Smith's films are amazing
as well, anyone out there famliar
with the films too?
In regards to Jym's comment I have to say
that I love both Jazz and folk.
In fact, they are so close that they are
woven together in my mind.
Harry used to paint following the music
of Dizzy or others. Every stroke in
his painting corresponded to a note in
the music.
on beyond the on-beyond
More soon
Sean D. Young
syoung@dsw.com
For
info on this mind-boggling collection of American music, go to
http://www.si.edu/organiza/offices/folklife/folkways/harry/hatext.htm
This
anthology is so rich that I've been listening to it since August and have
only
gotten through the first four of six CD's.
Although
I am a Beat fan of many years' standing, I am definitely not a jazz
fan...just
an old folkie at heart...always have been, always will be. No
apologies,
no regrets.
Regards,
Jym
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On Fri,
24 Oct 1997 13:39:28 -0600 Sean Young said: > Marie,
>
> same plane.
> dylan CD all around.
> alternating with Harry Smith's folk
anthology. >
> many voices. lost times
>
> AH
>
> SDY
>
>
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>Date: 10/24/97 1:23 PM
>
>
>...and
there's no one around...
>WHO
IS BOB DYLAN AND WHY WON'T HE LEAVE MY CD PLAYER???
>
>thank
the gods and goddesses:
>all
and whoever.
>
>the
best matured combo of blonde on blonde, new morining and blood on
>the
tracks.
>i'm
in dylan heaven....
>mc
Sean, can you post specifics on Harry Smith's
anthology?
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hey,
its just me
i was
wondering if you beat folks and bookselllers might be able to help
me on a
search. im looking for copies of the following books by mary
Shelley
(y'know the author of _frankenstein_) and i was wondering if you
all
could help. im looking for them as a collector, but rather a xmas
present
as my girlfriend is doing her master's thesis on shelley and needs
to find
copies of the following:
_The
fortunes of perkin warbeck_
_travel
writing_
_rambles
in germany and italy_ (very important)
_falkner;
a novel_
can any
of you keep yr eyes out for these books and let me know if you
find
them in yr travels. i would really like to get a hold of them (if
they
arent too expensive) and im sure we can work something out (i'll pay,
of
course, for all postage and cost...)
thanks
for yr help
yrs
derek
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Derek
A. Beaulieu wrote:
>
>
hey, its just me
> i
was wondering if you beat folks and bookselllers might be able to help
> me
on a search. im looking for copies of the following books by mary
>
Shelley (y'know the author of _frankenstein_) and i was wondering if you
>
all could help. im looking for them as a collector, but rather a xmas
>
present as my girlfriend is doing her master's thesis on shelley and needs
> to
find copies of the following:
>
_The fortunes of perkin warbeck_
>
_travel writing_
>
_rambles in germany and italy_ (very important)
>
_falkner; a novel_
>
can any of you keep yr eyes out for these books and let me know if you
>
find them in yr travels. i would really like to get a hold of them (if
>
they arent too expensive) and im sure we can work something out (i'll pay,
> of
course, for all postage and cost...)
>
thanks for yr help
>
yrs
>
derek
http://www.bibliofind.com/
dbr
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>This
whole situation has a raunchy taste to it, Phil, very raunchy.
>
>
> Tyson Ouellette
>What's
been in your mouth?
"We
cannot well do without our sins; they are the highway to our virtues."
Henry David Thoreau
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I have
one question, while the archives in the NY Public Library are not
"all"
the archives, neverthess they are there...who, amongst the top ten
complainers
on this list has actually used anything there for research and
if
so...what have you done? P.
"We
cannot well do without our sins; they are the highway to our virtues."
Henry David Thoreau
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race
thanks
for advice re: bibliofind
BUT
i've already checked amazon, bibliofind, nansearch and local
bookstores'
books in print - thats why im turning to the shelves and
eagle-eyes
of fellow beat members to keep an eye out
yrs
derek
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i would
like to tell all here that i am the proud curator of many many of
derek's
prints (one of which will be representing a 'slice' of me in the big
boho
book.)
exquisite
detail, lots of love of the process and obvious love of subject.
derek,
i gotta save for california next month, but i want to let everyone
know
that you are the primo.
mc
Derek
A. Beaulieu wrote:
>
beat-L'ers
> As
many of you know, for the last year i have been making linoleum block
>
prints which i have distributed all over the net (some of which are slated
>
for possible publication from _bulldog breath_, _william s. burroughs:
>
calling the toads_, _william s. borroughs: ghost of steel_, and _beat
>
scene_. also - i recently completed a print which was used for the
>
promotional poster of the RANT in louisville, KY reading organized by
>
Bohemian Ink and Published in Heaven Press.) also - several readers of
>
beat-L have my prints (off the top of my head i can think of rod anstee,
>
marie countryman, gerry nicosia, ron whitehead, antoine maloney, and
>
around a dozen others i think).
> I have recently finished a new print
of dizzy gillespie and
>
charlie parker entitled "diz'n'bird", in a limited edition of 4
>
prints (with 1 Artist's Proof) with an image size of approx. 6"x6"
and
>
printed on japanese woodblock paper.
> I am really happy with these prints
and i will not be reprinting
>
them either for a new edition or for publication (once they're gone,
>
they're gone)
> I am offering these prints for sale
at $12.00 US each (including
>
shipping & postage) if anyone is interested.
> Please let me know if any of you are
interested in purchasing one
> of
these prints, its a work that im proud of and im sure you would like as
>
well.
> yrs
> derek beaulieu
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Derek--
have you tried these guys? http://www.abebooks.com/
<A
HREF="http://www.abebooks.com/">The Advanced Book Exchange Home
Page</A>
diane
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Subject: Re: The Gang of One
once
again, you blow my fucking mind!!! be
my Moloch!! <BG>
love
you,
sherri
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RACE ---
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Subject: The Gang of One
I saw
an enlightening painting on North Poplar Street in Wichita between
Douglas
and Second this weekend. It was titled
"A Gang of One".
I
returned to a digest that included a diatribe or polemic i'm not
certain
which concerning the anti-Johnsonishtistic cliqueishness of
elements
on the Beat-L "ganging" up on folks and throwing them to the
wolves. And i thought -- oh yeah i think i did body
slam that guy once
or
twice. Sad that he took it as
hateful. Oh well.
And
then of course the gang doesn't ever argue within itself. We never
disagree
amongst ourselves -- we only say GO GO GO and AH! and this and
that
wondering who can pat the other's backs fastest and bestest and we
do this
while mentioning coded messages of the music which we're
listening
to while writing (for example i'm listening to Howl in my left
ear and
a learning channel show on apparitions in my right at this
moment)
and the coded soundtrack changes the whole meaning of the whole
thing
to everyone here and there and everywhere that is IN the gang but
is
intended obviously as a stonewalling of those who are out. Like my
introduction
to the Beat-L when I was so fucking beat that in reading
Rinaldo
on Howl and the Declaration of Independence pulled Carl Becker's
historical
interpretation off the bookshelf and began to scan it and
told
people that i was reading it (and the author wasn't even BEAT
egad) and of course i've committed a crime against
humanity here and
there
in my days on and off list. I've burned
a book or two and torn
many
apart to place them in different order in journals -- tossing on a
title
and giving it to my shrink. And i've
liberated more books than
anyone
on this list in my youth and what am i to do about it. i ain't
much of
a liberator these days. I'm much more
of a donater taking a box
of
books to charities usually a couple times a month. But how long will
this
bardonic purgatorgistic mark of theft hang on my brow like Cain
perhaps
I can spawn an entire race and will this race be as EVIL as
America
as the world as Moloch or Angels? I
have no clue
And who
do I see to get into this Gang anyway.
How many in this Gang?
What
are their names what are their names do you know the folks on the
good
Reuben James? I must wonder now and
then but I am told that if one
merely
mails to listserv address the word REVIEW the list of the
co-conspirators
will flash on my screen and i can mark down which are on
the
side of grace and which on the side of Moloch and who live in Kansas
or have
been through Wichita and driven down Poplar Street is obviously
something
of a Calvinistic notion of the "elect" in this Gang of One.
But
what was I saying?
Oh
yes. I drove South. I saw.
I visited. I followed an
enchanting
Irish
pied piper keyboard from oldtown to the Bill Garrison blues
society
convention birthday party an eclectic Ericksonian halloween bash
and a
rendition of "All of Me" in which we all decided we were only half
conscious
so began again singing "Half of me, why not take Half of Me"
and
then walked again into a dark wichita night and the Gang of One
painting
lead me here and there and to the Knights Motel and back across
to Poplar
and to the U. and to Southeast Asia foreign policy concerning
Burmese/Myanamaristic
heroin dealing. And return to a
diatribe against
my one
nation under God and heard a cat say this morning "I invent more
Gods in
one day than you will believe in in a lifetime" and so I
understand
but then again after about two or three questions from moi he
did
admit that he also "destroys more Gods in one day than you will
believe
in in a lifetime" and this caveman's eyes sparkle in a cricket
habitat
as he says these things and so do i invent or do i destroy and
am I
america or is america some evil demon someone ELSE has created and
that i
will sit around and whine about in my youth.
Of course it is,
because
we all go through those days ... bad hair days in which the
world
is our oyster and the troubles are all caused by them. By the
gang. That damn clique on the Beat-L -- they're
probably responsible
for the
tensions in Kashmir afterall aren't they.
And I am A GANG OF
ONE! but it is pretty fucking big ONE if you get
the drift. ONE nation
under
GOD (pick a god any god) INDIVISABLE ah there's the rub. At least
to
those who ain't in Kansas cuz ya gotta know that whether you pick
Lecompton
or Topeka the crystal on my bathroom shelf still shines the
same
mystic colours. Why divide? Why not belive in indivisibility?
Because
I am not me? You are not me. I am not in the Gang. The Gang
is in
the Gang and since I'm outside of the Gang I must not be in the
Gang
and I am outside the Gang because I ain't no I yet I'm sitting
around
saying YOU YOU YOU it's all your fault.
Well, son, find a little
Moloch
in yourself ... smile at it sing Holy Holy Holy to your Moloch
admit
it and get over it and become a Gang of One and then look around
at the
Gangs of Gangs that Mother of All Gangs that you feared most
(whichever
it happens to be this minute) and you'll say -- Oh it's you!
Why
didn't you tell me were falling into that old Steppenwolf spiritual
trip
again!!! <grin>
david
rhaesa
salina,
Kansas
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On Mon,
27 Oct 1997, James Stauffer wrote:
>
Reasonableness and a quiet, sure tone gain respect. Constant aspersions
> on
the motives of others don't.
Much
truth there, James, but we must also bear in mind that there is a
time to
attack, in all righteous wrath.
I
cannot judge the merits of either side in the Estate debate, but Gerry's
indignation
and keep-on-coming energy wins my respect. And if the comments
re.
motives are accurate, I want to hear those aspersions too.
The
debate on the propriety of Beat-L as battlefield strikes me as a
Mahayana/Hinayana,
or Rinzai/Soto conflict. I've always gravitated to
Mahayana
Buddhism (and Rinzai Zen), so I say let's have the leviathans
duke it
out. Hurrah for both sides!
Michael
(slipping
a covert horseshoe into Gerry's glove)
+ -- +
-- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- +
Michael R. Brown foosi@global.california.com
+ -- +
-- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- +
"Fancy titles and nightshirts
are a waste of time."
- "Alfred" [a California
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cranial
guitar is a wonder , a pleasure, a shock a surprise and i love the
intro..
have a
good time gerry, relax and enjoy yourself. you've done a lot of
wonderful
work, in my eyes, mem babe, kaufman (the thought of his friends
chasing
after his napkins, his howling his poems in the street his anarchist
heart.
i am so
glad you took the time to gather them up and put them out into the
world
for us all
mc
Gerald
Nicosia wrote:
> Hi
to everyone! Oct 27, 1997
> Just wanted to explain that I'll be
scarce for a few days since I'm
>
headed down to L.A. to collect the PEN USA CENTER WEST award for the Bob
>
Kaufman book I edited (posthumously) called CRANIAL GUITAR (Coffee House
>
Press). Bob's book was picked as the
best poetry book in the Western United
>
States last year. The awards ceremony
is at the Biltmore in downtown L.A.
>
starting 6:30 Tuesday evening. Supposed
to be movie stars reading the
>
award-winning books. Sounds like a
kick.
> Best always, Gerry Nicosia
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On a
related subject, has anybody out there found a Kerouac early edition
paperback
in a thrift store? I had a fleeting vision recently about
finding
a 1st edition copy of OTR in a thrift store and have been
extra-throrough
when going through the book section.
Nothing so far, but
I have
found a few neato 50's/60's Ace science fiction paperbacks which
are
worth it for the cover art alone!
Anne
Sneddon
On Mon,
27 Oct 1997, Attila Gyenis wrote:
>
The people who are stealing Kerouac books aren't stealing them to read. They
>
are stealing them to resell to used bookstores. It is very hard to find used
>
Kerouac used books (since everyone keeps theirs for life). I know that is the
>
case in NYC. So I don't think it is the people on this list who are stealing
>
them (?or are you). Kerouac books, good as gold.
>
>
someone wrote:
>
>> Now I'm hearing that followers of the beat generation are
notorious book
>
thieves in some areas. What does that
say about the Beat ethic? Do any of
>
you bookstore employees on this list know of other books and genres that are
>
eminently stealable? I can't believe
that in the whole wide world of books,
>
only Beat Generation
>
topics inspire theft. ..
>
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>Dear
Attila, Oct 27, 1997
> Jack sure as hell didn't intend the Sampases to take care of his
>archive. He wrote to Paul Blake, Jr. on October 20,
1997, just before he
>fell
ill: "I just wanted to leave my 'estate' (which is what it really is)
>to
someone directly connected with the last remaining drop of my direct
>blood
line, which is, me sister Carolyn, your Mom, and not to leave a
>dingblasted
f------g think to my wife's one hundred Greek relatives."
Since
this seems to be the one quote used incessantly, I quote from a
notebook
of Jack Kerouac's which, in my opinion, strikes me as being just as
valid
as anything mentioned from you in the same vein....
"may God make me a millionaire someday
so I wont lend or leave anything to
any
Blakes."
The truth is this, that while some may
concur with Mr. Nicosia's
reasoning
about what Jack Kerouac may or may not have written (or to be
decreed
as testament or will),it is not the only thing that exists that
proves
his point solidly. We know Kerouac as contradictory and in his later
years,
embittered, but we cannot surmise the intentions of his estate by
what he
may or may not have mentioned in a letter. The fact is this, that
Gabrielle
Kerouac inherited the estate and from there, Stella Sampas.The
Sampas
Family controls the estate with John Sampas appointed as literary
representative.
The nimble thread of evidence that Gerry Nicosia balances
upon
for his case hinges on opinion, not Jack Kerouac's intentions. Hence,
the
pondering about forgery, the only thing that matters here for Mr.
Nicosia,
is the only thing he has to go on. It is easy to tread on the
intentions
of the dead, Jack, Gabrielle, Stella or otherwise...Paul of
TKQ....
"We
cannot well do without our sins; they are the highway to our virtues."
Henry David Thoreau
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Comments:
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On Fri,
24 Oct 1997, First_Name Last_Name wrote:
>
> if
i were a dead icon, i'd be pissed over such infantile arguing, no matter
>
how much it's in the name of jack or his estate or literature or any
>
reason.....
>
>
>
brian
>
Sorry,
I couldn't help laughing when I saw this.
Personally,
when I become a dead icon I intend not to get pissed over
anything.
Cordially,
Mike
Skau
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Derek
and others,
Online there is a site called "The
Advanced Book Exchange." They
bring
together
hundreds of independent booksellers all over the states into one
easily
searchable site. I've found quite a few
hard to find books there,
it's
worth a look... sorry I don't have the
URL, try Yahoo!, I think it's
an easy
to find site.
Bruce
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Date:
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Subject:
Re: help w/ non-beat book search please!
>race
>thanks
for advice re: bibliofind
>BUT
i've already checked amazon, bibliofind, nansearch and local
>bookstores'
books in print - thats why im turning to the shelves and
>eagle-eyes
of fellow beat members to keep an eye out
>yrs
>derek
>
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At
05:54 PM 10/27/97 +0000, you wrote:
>cranial
guitar is a wonder , a pleasure, a shock a surprise and i love the
>intro..
>have
a good time gerry, relax and enjoy yourself. you've done a lot of
>wonderful
work, in my eyes, mem babe, kaufman (the thought of his friends
>chasing
after his napkins, his howling his poems in the street his anarchist
>heart.
>i
am so glad you took the time to gather them up and put them out into the
>world
for us all
>mc
>
>
>Gerald
Nicosia wrote:
>
>>
Hi to everyone! Oct 27, 1997
>> Just wanted to explain that I'll be
scarce for a few days since I'm
>>
headed down to L.A. to collect the PEN USA CENTER WEST award for the Bob
>>
Kaufman book I edited (posthumously) called CRANIAL GUITAR (Coffee House
>>
Press). Bob's book was picked as the
best poetry book in the Western United
>>
States last year. The awards ceremony
is at the Biltmore in downtown L.A.
>>
starting 6:30 Tuesday evening. Supposed
to be movie stars reading the
>>
award-winning books. Sounds like a
kick.
>> Best always, Gerry Nicosia
>Cheers
and congrats to Gerry, I know how hard it is to garnish such praise
when
THE
RECIPIENT IS ON THE SAME BOARD THAT DEALT OUT THE AWARD (PEN WEST)!!!!!
Paul....
"We
cannot well do without our sins; they are the highway to our virtues."
Henry David Thoreau
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Paul A.
Maher Jr. wrote:
>
> At
05:54 PM 10/27/97 +0000, you wrote:
>
>cranial guitar is a wonder , a pleasure, a shock a surprise and i love the
>
>intro..
>
>have a good time gerry, relax and enjoy yourself. you've done a lot of
>
>wonderful work, in my eyes, mem babe, kaufman (the thought of his friends
>
>chasing after his napkins, his howling his poems in the street his
anarchist
>
>heart.
>
>i am so glad you took the time to gather them up and put them out into the
>
>world for us all
>
>mc
>
>
>
>
>
>Gerald Nicosia wrote:
>
>
>
>> Hi to everyone! Oct 27,
1997
>
>> Just wanted to explain
that I'll be scarce for a few days since I'm
>
>> headed down to L.A. to collect the PEN USA CENTER WEST award for the
Bob
>
>> Kaufman book I edited (posthumously) called CRANIAL GUITAR (Coffee
House
>
>> Press). Bob's book was picked
as the best poetry book in the Western
United
>
>> States last year. The awards
ceremony is at the Biltmore in downtown L.A.
>
>> starting 6:30 Tuesday evening.
Supposed to be movie stars reading the
>
>> award-winning books. Sounds
like a kick.
>
>> Best always, Gerry
Nicosia
>
>Cheers and congrats to Gerry, I know how hard it is to garnish such praise
>
when
>
THE RECIPIENT IS ON THE SAME BOARD THAT DEALT OUT THE AWARD (PEN WEST)!!!!!
>
Paul....
>
"We cannot well do without our sins; they are the highway to our
virtues."
>
Henry David Thoreau
technical
foul :)
the
Committee
dbr
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Diane
Carter wrote:
>
>
> Leon Tabory wrote:
>
>
> I can be pissed at lack of
compassion and at mistreatment of people
>
> anywhere in the world. Screw you suggests to me not a call for a
>
> specific
>
> action but an outraged outcry at uncalled for meanness. I don't think
>
> it is
>
> fair to single out the United States as being a bad apple among
> >
nations,
>
> when in my opinion it is qactually better than most.
>
>
Leon,
>
> I
have to agree with you about the replacing of America with world,
>
because the kind of meanness you suggest is in effect widespread as
>
"man's inhumanity to man." I
read Keith's screw you America to mean he
>
wants nothing to do with what America is, but whether one likes it or
>
not, whether we feel we are in or out of the mainstream, we are all a
>
part of America unless we chose to leave it.
I would rather see the
>
screw you applied more appropriately to specific actions and not the
>
country as a whole, much like what Ginsberg was doing when he wrote "Go
>
fuck yourself with your atom bomb."
> DC
of
course the alternative is Bob Dylan's speech receiving a civil
liberties
award when he said something to the affect of "we all have a
little
bit of Lee Harvey Oswald in us."
tangentially,
the ancient egyptians included a confession of the crimes
they
had not committed in their lifetime in their final spiritual
cleansings
before death -- perhaps to cleanse any psychic complicity --
i
really don't know.
david
rhaesa
salina,
Kansas
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Just a
quick post from a lurker. Have you
noticed that in both instances
(traffic
and email) the rage comes about (maybe) due to the fact that
we are,
to a degree, anonymous? I mean, I for one, have said things via
computer
that I wouldn't say if face to face with someone...just a
thought.
Jorgiana
On Wed,
22 Oct 1997, R. Bentz Kirby wrote:
> I
believe we should open a new thread. It
is on the internet/www
>
phenomenon. It should be a comparison
about how very intelligent people
>
can lose all sense of perspective when one of two things happens, they
>
get cut off in traffic (or someone drives into a parking place they have
>
been waiting on) or when they get mad or emotional about a thread on a
>
mail list. I believe these ideas are
comparable and that they can lead
> us
directly to the collective unconscious mind and how it affects mail
>
list behavior and traffic. For
instance, we could delve into how do you
>
"feel" someone staring at you at a trafffic light, and how do you
know
>
when someone has "insulted" you in a fashion that will lead to a duel
by
>
making a post to the mail list.
>
> I
think that we could even discuss the quality of the midi file of "Take
>
Five" on Keith's site. Is it real
jass, or is it Sear's jazz? What
>
would Jack think about it?
>
>
Well the list of topics is endless and I really did suggest a collection
> or
works, Big Sky Mind for discussion. Is
anyone interested? I suggest
> we
start with Harold Norse's poems as they are good and there are only
>
about three.
>
>
Just a thought.
>
> --
>
>
Peace,
>
>
Bentz
>
bocelts@scsn.net
>
http://www.scsn.net/users/sclaw
>
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RE:
Pull my Daisy.
Apologizing
in advance if someone already answered this...I have 400
messages
today and I'm only on 90. A few months back I had trouble finding
a video
until someone suggested Home FilmFestival 800-258-3456. Callthem
and see
if it helps.
Jorgiana
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At
10:49 AM 10/27/97 -0800, you wrote:
James
Stauffer wrote:
>Thnaks
for your thoughtful post on the "estate miasma". I concurr
>completely
with your view. Reasonableness and a
quiet, sure tone gain
>respect. Constant aspersions on the motives of others
don't. Like you,
>I
remember no dirt being slung at Gerry during his abscense. If the
>discussion
could follow the sort of tone that Attila has used I think we
>all
would learn more about what the "facts" (if we will ever know them)
>are. More light.
Less heat.
>
Sweet
Baby James,
Your Blue Ribbon Boy (Attila) has won
helluva walk to his post
office
box in Lowell, Massachusetts, from his home in Eureka, California. I
think
he ought to get the Blue Ribbon for that alone.
P.S. James Taylor, ex-junkie,
definitely is Beat.
Best always, Gerry Nicosia
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At
05:37 PM 10/27/97 -0500, Paul Maher wrote:
>THE
RECIPIENT IS ON THE SAME BOARD THAT DEALT OUT THE AWARD (PEN WEST)!!!!!
Once
again, Mr. Maher opens his mouth before he knows whereof he speaks.
The
board in LA (I'm in San Francisco) selects an awards committee, and the
awards
committee selects three prominent individuals in each catagory to
pick
the award. This year, the poetry award
was judged by Lorna Dee
Cervantes,
Francis Phillips, and Louis MacAdams. I
have never met Ms.
Cervantes
and Ms. (Mr.?) Phillips. Mr. MacAdams I
met once at a Kerouac
festival
several years ago, and have not had any communication with him since.
The Pen West award, by the way, was
mentioned by PUblishers Weekly
as one
of the most prestigious and significant awards in the country.
--Gerald Nicosia (targeted for slander
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Gerry,
An
award Bob richly deserved. May it be
some assistance to Eileen.
Don't
remember the PEN crew paying much attention to Kaufman when he was
among
us.
J.
Stauffer
"Sweet
Baby James" to you.
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Subject: Re: Bob Kaufman Award
In a
message dated 10/27/97 3:26:19 PM, you wrote:
<<>Cheers
and congrats to Gerry, I know how hard it is to garnish such praise
when
THE
RECIPIENT IS ON THE SAME BOARD THAT DEALT OUT THE AWARD (PEN WEST)!!!!!
Paul....
"We
cannot well do without our sins; they are the highway to our virtues."
Henry David Thoreau>>
Dear
Beat List,
I had
the pleasure of speaking with Elaine Kaufman (Bob's Widow)
at the
Six Gallery memorial reading, held recently in San Francisco.
She was
so proud of CRANIAL GUITAR being chosen for the Pen West Award.
Ms.
Kaufman was very excited about going to LA for the awards ceremony,
and
that after all these years Bob was getting some long overdue praise.
I for
one love his poetry. Best Wishes to Elaine and Gerry and
congratulations
on the
award.
yrs
Gary
Mex Glazner
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03:09 PM 10/27/97 -0800, you wrote:
>At
05:37 PM 10/27/97 -0500, Paul Maher wrote:
>>THE
RECIPIENT IS ON THE SAME BOARD THAT DEALT OUT THE AWARD (PEN WEST)!!!!!
>
>
>Once
again, Mr. Maher opens his mouth before he knows whereof he speaks.
>The
board in LA (I'm in San Francisco) selects an awards committee, and the
>awards
committee selects three prominent individuals in each catagory to
>pick
the award. This year, the poetry award
was judged by Lorna Dee
>Cervantes,
Francis Phillips, and Louis MacAdams. I
have never met Ms.
>Cervantes
and Ms. (Mr.?) Phillips. Mr. MacAdams I
met once at a Kerouac
>festival
several years ago, and have not had any communication with him since.
> The Pen West award, by the way, was
mentioned by PUblishers Weekly
>as
one of the most prestigious and significant awards in the country.
> --Gerald Nicosia (targeted for slander
by-------?)
>iF
I am wrong then I apologize profusely......Paul of TKQ. . .
"We
cannot well do without our sins; they are the highway to our virtues."
Henry David Thoreau
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Derek,
Here's hoping that there's one
left...is there?
Antoine
Voice contact at (514) 933-4956 in Montreal
"Blessed are they who can laugh at
themselves, for they shall never
cease
to be amused."
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i think
this is a post about the world series, there is no place safe.
tell me
baseball is beat because jack loved it. amerika spends its wad
on
sports, little boy elbows gone at 12, parents calling 8 year old
rivals
little bastards, money money money and of course drinking.
Timothy
K. Gallaher wrote:
>
> I
think the Florida marlins just won the World seies. Renteria hit one up
>
the middle in the 11th.
>
>
Tony Fernandez was "the goat" (always unfair to call someone the goat
to my
>
mind--but they do) was Livan Hernandez the MVP. This guy is just 22 years
>
old and he had to escape from Cuba (escape--run away--flee) to come to the
> US
and play.
>
> Go
figure.
>
>
"I love you Miami" is what he shouted.
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From: Bill Gargan
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Subject: Re: Why there is no Jack Kerouac Archive
to Study
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On Mon,
27 Oct 1997 15:54:10 -0500 Paul A. Maher Jr. said:
>I
have one question, while the archives in the NY Public Library are not
>"all"
the archives, neverthess they are there...who, amongst the top ten
>complainers
on this list has actually used anything there for research and
>if
so...what have you done? P.
>"We
cannot well do without our sins; they are the highway to our virtues."
> Henry David Thoreau
Not that I'm in the top ten complainers, but
I have used some of the Kerouac m
aterials
in the Berg Collection -- the notebooks for "The Beat
Generation." Th
is was
probably in the middle 1980s, however, before the arrival of the items d
dposited
by Mr. Sampas. I did enjoy the exhibit
a few years ago.
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At
05:52 PM 10/27/97 -0600, you wrote:
>i
think this is a post about the world series, there is no place safe.
>tell
me baseball is beat because jack loved it. amerika spends its wad
>on
sports, little boy elbows gone at 12, parents calling 8 year old
>rivals
little bastards, money money money and of course drinking.
Did you
ever see Pull My daisy? "Is
baseball holy?" is one of the questions
about
holiness they were asking the priest.
Dr. Sax
has great baseball stuff. I saw an
anthology of baseball fiction
once in
the sports section of a bookstore and lo and behold a section of Dr.
Sax was
included.
As I
recall Scotty Boldieu (so named because of his stinginess in eating his
candy
bars) was the ace of the Dracut Tigers.
>
>Timothy
K. Gallaher wrote:
>>
>>
I think the Florida marlins just won the World seies. Renteria hit one up
>>
the middle in the 11th.
>>
>>
Tony Fernandez was "the goat" (always unfair to call someone the goat
to my
>>
mind--but they do) was Livan Hernandez the MVP. This guy is just 22 years
>>
old and he had to escape from Cuba (escape--run away--flee) to come to the
>>
US and play.
>>
>>
Go figure.
>>
>>
"I love you Miami" is what he shouted.
>
>
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Dear
Eric,
I don't
remember creating a laugh at your expense.
I'm sorry
though,
if it hurt. I've been so bruised on the
newsgroups
that
I've lost most of my feelings and say anything that comes
to
mind, sometimes, but not with a view toward injuring anyone.
I hold
many of the same views you do about this list.
I mostly
contribute
nothing, but comment occasionally on what I read. I
don't
mean any harm. I'm sort of put off by
all the worshipping
of OTR,
Kerouac, Burroughs, etc. I don't
worship any of these
dead
white guys. I'm irreverent about the
Beat legacy. Its now
like
any other thoroughly accepted cultural "content." For sale
at the
highest price possible. I don't bitch
about the hawking of
books
and t-shirts because I don't care that the Beats have become
part of
the cultural wallpaper. I think you're
alright and I don't
think
you should take what you read here so seriously.
Come
back to the Five and Dime, Eric!
Mike
Rice
At
02:32 AM 10/26/97 -0500, you wrote:
>You
know, I agree with Richard Wallner.
There is a clique mentality on
>this
list and if you're not a part of it, you're screwed. Every time
>I've
posted here I've been dissed and cut down.
I'm not just another
>ignorant
college student bumbling my way through a paper. Yeah, I gotta
>write
a paper on Kerouac and Burroughs, but I came here far before I
>knew
I'd ever write about those guys. I fell
in love with the
>literature
and the lives of those behind it. It's
tough to find Beat
>references
and literature outside of pedestrian criticism and
>lightweight
works on the Beats as a collective. I
thought this list
>would
be a repository of great ideas and I could offer some
>interpretations
of Beat works that would drum up some new angles I'd
>never
considered. But after my first couple
of posts I realized -
>"flame
on!" - I was dead here. I stuck
around, hoping it would get a
>little
better, then the estate battle broke out and I realized tensions
>would
never ease. The camps were divided and
God forbid you fell
>anywhere
between them. Then I found one of my
posts quoted with Mike
>Rice's
"funny" dis of my post included for good humiliatory pleasure.
>That's
the last straw for me. I'm the butt of
jokes and ridicule every
>single
day at my university - I'm ostracized and criticized at every
>turn. Everyone either hates me, is afriad of me or
thinks I am an ass.
>I
don't need that popping up in my mailbox at home too. See ya later
>and
thanx for everything. Maybe I'll be
back one day . . .
>
>Eric
"Moose" Macy
>
>
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Paul A.
Maher Jr. wrote:
>
THE RECIPIENT IS ON THE SAME BOARD THAT DEALT OUT THE AWARD (PEN WEST)!!!!!
>
Paul....
now if
i say high tall this makes you look my sister will chide me for
relating
size to honor. but how about giving the
small petty creepy
remarks
a rest.
p
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Does
anyone know anything about this writer/poet?
All I've go is what
little
I've picked up (encouraged by Ginsberg, started Rent-A-Beatnik).
After
searching all the library systems in the state, I found one
collection
of his work. Does anyone know where I
could find some good
background
info? The resources here are limited
(as one can tell from the
above
statement). If anyone knows of an
anthology or article or book with
some
info on this guy I could be pointed toward I'd be eternally grateful.
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Alex
Howard (704)264-8259 Appalachian State
University
kh14586@am.appstate.edu P.O. Box 12149
http://www1.appstate.edu/~kh14586
Boone, NC 28608
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Paul -
that was below the belt and quite crude
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At
05:54 PM 10/27/97 +0000, you wrote:
>cranial
guitar is a wonder , a pleasure, a shock a surprise and i love the
>intro..
>have
a good time gerry, relax and enjoy yourself. you've done a lot of
>wonderful
work, in my eyes, mem babe, kaufman (the thought of his friends
>chasing
after his napkins, his howling his poems in the street his anarchist
>heart.
>i
am so glad you took the time to gather them up and put them out into the
>world
for us all
>mc
>
>
>Gerald
Nicosia wrote:
>
>>
Hi to everyone! Oct 27, 1997
>> Just wanted to explain that I'll be
scarce for a few days since I'm
>>
headed down to L.A. to collect the PEN USA CENTER WEST award for the Bob
>>
Kaufman book I edited (posthumously) called CRANIAL GUITAR (Coffee House
>>
Press). Bob's book was picked as the
best poetry book in the Western
United
>>
States last year. The awards ceremony
is at the Biltmore in downtown L.A.
>>
starting 6:30 Tuesday evening. Supposed
to be movie stars reading the
>>
award-winning books. Sounds like a
kick.
>> Best always, Gerry Nicosia
>Cheers
and congrats to Gerry, I know how hard it is to garnish such praise
when
THE
RECIPIENT IS ON THE SAME BOARD THAT DEALT OUT THE AWARD (PEN WEST)!!!!!
Paul....
"We
cannot well do without our sins; they are the highway to our virtues."
Henry David Thoreau
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From: John J Dorfner
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Subject: Re: Steal this book
i found
two copies of Maggie Cassidy 1st edition at a place called Manny's,
an art
supply/used book store in New Paltz New York.
and the price i
paid...12
cents each. yes...that is right...12
cents each. this was in
1976.
john j
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> i
wasn't going to head to wichita cuz my step-dad is in the hosptial but
>
i'm going to shift gears and leave him to the doctors and head down to
>
see Wichita and visit Pat O'Connor and the Wichita State Library (and
>
look for some books so i can ask questions about them)....
okay
okay i have to say it :
Anybody
ever heard of a band call soul coughing????
(true
dreams of wichita???)
some
are claiming that the lyricist/singer is the newest thing in beat
poetry,
but in all interviews i've read about them, he says, "no man, i
just
like playing around with words."
give a
listen to them if you can, in particular their cd "ruby vroom"
cw
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> 2)
C'mon, Gerry and Phil and Paul and Bill and Marie
>
and Richard and Leon -- how about we all meet somewhere
>
like Lawrence Kansas (in the middle of the country) and
>
have a big group hug, come on everybody what do you say?
Levi:
can i
get in on the group hug thing? I'm in
iowa, and how much more in
the
middle of the country can you get???
cw