beat list 1996

Memory Babe - not sure)... thanks, I will try and hunt down that issue...

bfn,

JDL

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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 08:11:39 -0400

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From: William Miller <KenWNC@AOL.COM>

Subject: ticket that exploded

Hello folks.

I just finished a first reading of _The Ticket That Exploded_. I was

wondering if someone could comment on any passages that may be common between

_TTE_ and _Electronic Revolution_. I have not read ER, but the last 20 pages

or so of _TTE_ is a sort of manual for (what is now a very primitive)

electronic revolution.

Now into _Nova Express_.

Minutes to go,

William Miller

BTW, I think the best passage in _TTE_ was the description of the frogfaced

southern sheriff. Suddenly I can't find that passage -- anyone know if it's

in _TTE_ or is it in _The Soft Machine_?

>From _The Soft Machine_ : "I was more *physical before my *accident, you can

see from this interesting picture"

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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 10:08:59 -0500

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From: "L.Kelly" <lpk@KDSI.NET>

Subject: Re: The Ticket That Exploded

On Thu, 16 May 1996, William Miller wrote:

> I just finished a first reading of _The Ticket That Exploded_.

William, you might be intereted in the following URL:

http://www.bigtable.com/wsb/0009f.html

It contains some helpful information regarding Ticket, and it is part

of a larger exploration of Burroughs' work.

Regards,

Luke

---

/\ /\ /\ /\ Luke Kelly

/\/ \/ \/\/ __o / \/\ lpk@kdsi.net or

/\ / / \ / \<,_ / \ lpk@bigtable.com

/ / ..... \ ...(_)/-(_).. .. \ http://www.bigtable.com

Please don't drive. Ride a bike! http://www.kdsi.net

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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 20:42:44 -0400

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From: Bill Kiriazis <kir@HAMPTONS.COM>

Subject: Re: Sketches of Kerouac

> As I've been reading Kerouac's Visions of Cody I've become increasingly

>interested in his technique of "sketching." Does anyone know how and when this

>style originated? Was "October in the Railroad Earth" the first example of this

>technique that Kerouac went on to use more frequently? Also, are there any

>articles (aside from the ones that kerouac himself wrote) out there on this

>technique and how it is used in his books?

>just wondering,

>JDL

There is an excellent article that appeared in The American Poetry Review:

Jan/Feb. 1995. Written by Clark Coolidge, it is entitled

"Kerouac". He talks about the writing style Of JK and breaks it into three

categories: Alluvials, Sketching and Babble Flow. I use this article as a

introduction to my students for spontaneous writing. If anyone is

interested, I can try to scan it onto the computer.

Interesting Note: Coolidge was present at the infamous "Brandies University

Seminar" in which JK took on his critics.

Bill Kiriazis

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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 20:11:33 EST

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From: "J.D. P. Lafrance" <J.D._P._Lafrance@RIDLEY.ON.CA>

Organization: Ridley College

Subject: Re: Sketches of Kerouac

I would be very interested in the obtaining a copy of that article...it sounds

fascinating...

bfn,

JDL

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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 21:27:08 -0700

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From: Andrew Howald <and_how@IDIOM.COM>

Subject: Re: Sketches of Kerouac

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> Interesting Note: Coolidge was present at the infamous "Brandies University

> Seminar" in which JK took on his critics.

Where can I find out more about this infamous seminar please?

--Andrew

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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 00:43:17 -0700

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From: "Timothy K. Gallaher" <gallaher@HSC.USC.EDU>

Subject: Re: Sketches of Kerouac

>> Interesting Note: Coolidge was present at the infamous "Brandies University

>> Seminar" in which JK took on his critics.

>Where can I find out more about this infamous seminar please?

> --Andrew

A recording of this is included in the Rhino records kerouac

collection--the 3 CD ROM package of his records.

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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 07:44:19 -0400

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From: William Miller <KenWNC@AOL.COM>

Subject: Re: The Ticket That Exploded

Luke,

thanks for that URL information.

William.

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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 08:33:25 EST

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From: "J.D. P. Lafrance" <J.D._P._Lafrance@RIDLEY.ON.CA>

Organization: Ridley College

Subject: Re: Sketches of Kerouac

Also the Kerouac bio, MEMORY BABE goes into some detail the events leading up

to, during and after his appearance there... very interesting stuff.

bfn,

JDL

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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 16:38:13 -0400

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From: Neil Hennessy <nhenness@UWATERLOO.CA>

Subject: The Ticket that Exploded

> On Thu, 16 May 1996, William Miller wrote:

> > I just finished a first reading of _The Ticket That Exploded_.

> William, you might be intereted in the following URL:

> http://www.bigtable.com/wsb/0009f.html

> It contains some helpful information regarding Ticket, and it is part

> of a larger exploration of Burroughs' work.

I checked out the URL with the thought in mind that the best summary, and

most elucidating piece on any of the books in Burroughs's first trilogy is

to be found in Skerl's _William S. Burroughs_. Much to my surprise it

was the passage from Skerl's book. If you want a very easy bite-size

criticism of the trilogy Skerl's book is excellent. Mottram's _Algebra of

Need_ is also an excellent text, but tends to be more involved and

sometimes, I found, more abstruse.

Answering the original question about _Electronic Revolution_, ER is more

like _The Job_ than TTE. ER is a didactic, theoretical work that explains

some of Burroughs's methods for experimenting with the word virus. There

are some fictional vignettes interspersed throughout the text to

illustrate the theories in practice, but the overall tone remains

didactic, Burroughs's recipe for a revolution of consciousness. ER

includes the "Feedback From Watergate to The Garden of Eden" section that

appears in _The Job_. The second eponymously entitled part is a

continuation of his theories:

[snip]

In "The Invisible Generation" first published in IT and in the Los

Angeles Free Press in 1966 and reprinted in _The Job_, I consider the

potentials of thousands of people with tape recorders, portable and

stationary, messages passed along like signal drums, a parody of the

President's speech up and down the balconies, in and out open windows,

through walls, over courtyards, taken up by barking dogs, muttering bums,

music, traffic down windy streets, across parks and soccer fields.

Illusion is a revolutionary weapon.

[snip]

He then goes on to detail further specific uses of cut-up tapes as

revolutionary weapons. TTE is very close to _The Job_ and ER in theme,

but not in style or content. TTE brings the methods and theories about

the word as virus, and cut-up weaponry into Burroughs's fictional world,

into the battle between the Nova Mob and the rest of the Agents. ER would

be like a companion piece to TTE if you want to look at it that way.

Incidentally, my favourite part is when Lee or A.J. or whoever it is goes

to the Garden Of Delights; Burroughs's attack on hallucinogenic using,

peace-loving, utopia-believing, flower wearing, free sex hippies. Haha.

L. Kelly's site is very good for those who haven't read a lot of

Burroughs but want an overview of his career and writings. Tons of info

and great pics. He lifted (with permission of course) a section of an

essay I did on Ondaatje's Collected Works of Billy the Kid and

Burroughs's Place of Dead Roads for his PODR section at

http://www.bigtable.com/wsb/0020a.html

Cheers,

Neil

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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 19:25:27 EST

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From: "J.D. P. Lafrance" <J.D._P._Lafrance@RIDLEY.ON.CA>

Organization: Ridley College

Subject: Re: The Ticket that Exploded

Yes, I agree that that Burroughs site is one of the best I've seen -

particularly those essays on Burroughs by J. Skerl - her insights and analysis

of Naked Lunch was excellent!

well worth a looksee,

JDL

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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 20:54:29 -0400

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From: William Miller <KenWNC@AOL.COM>

Subject: WSB, Hippos

Hello folks.

William Miller here.

Thanks to Neil [nhenness@UWATERLOO.CA (Neil Hennessy)]

for providing more information on Burroughs' TTE and ER. I plan to step into

Nova Express this weekend.

I'm not visiting every web site associated with all of these boys because I

just find it more satisfying (GADS!) to actually read the book (paper, pages,

binding, and all that) than to cyber-do it.

But I'll check out that Big Table thing.

Neil (or anyone) do you know if anyone has ever seen a part or whole copy of

the manuscript for _And the Hippos were Boiled in their Tanks_ ?

BTW I still have not found a copy of _You Can't Win_, by Jack Black, despite

having done interlibrary loan requests. And working in a used bookstore. I

refuse to pay the US$20 for a new copy from some publisher in Hawaii. Anyone

with any info on Black's book (availability, price) please e-mail me directly

or post to the list.

thanks.

William

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Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 09:32:22 +1000

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From: JENS MOELLENHOFF <JMOELLEN@NW80.CIP.FAK14.UNI-MUENCHEN.DE>

Subject: b. gysins dreammachine & k. cobains suicide

hi,

in the fabulous booklet of the recently released cd "10 % under

burroughs" featuring burroughs gysin huncke and many less known

characters, there's a note saying that there could be some

connections between nirvana's kurt cobain's suicide and brion gysin's

dreammachine. what are these connections ?

jens

jmoellen@nw80.cip.fak14.uni-muenchen.de

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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 08:50:52 -0400

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Subject: ?

In a message dated 96-05-19 23:36:43 EDT, sfitzpat@pepps.pepperdine.de (Shar

Fitzpatrick) writes:

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>I am hoping this will work--I have been having the biggest problem with

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>the Jack Kerouac Institute in Colorado. It is actually not named that,

>but known for that. Also, if anyone knows the exact dates of the Kerouac

>Festival in Lowell, I'd appreciate it.

>Little interesting fact: I was in Prague last weekend and found Maggie

>Cassidy translated into Czech.

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I am hoping this will work--I have been having the biggest problem with

this little e-mail system. Anyway, I have been trying to find out about

the Jack Kerouac Institute in Colorado. It is actually not named that,

but known for that. Also, if anyone knows the exact dates of the Kerouac

Festival in Lowell, I'd appreciate it.

Little interesting fact: I was in Prague last weekend and found Maggie

Cassidy translated into Czech.

--TAA28271.832526911/pepps.pepperdine.de--

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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 09:21:11 -0400

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From: Ron Whitehead <RWhiteBone@AOL.COM>

Subject: Kerouac School & Festival

Hello! Here's contact information (someone requested & may be of interest to

others) on

The Naropa Institute & Jack Kerouac School of Disembodied Poetics Summer

Programs (June & July) plus Lowell Celebrates Kerouac! Annual International

Festival (first week October): Attn: Sue Hammond, School of Continuing

Education, The Naropa Institute, 2130 Arapahoe Ave., Boulder, CO 80302-6697,

phone 303-546-3578; Mark Hemenway (took over as Director last year after

years of incredible success by founder Brian Foye who is still active in

organization i.e. Brian arranged for Patti Smith to perform at last year's

Festival), Lowell Celebrates Kerouac!, P.O. Box 1111, Lowell, MA 01853, phone

508-454-0736. Thanks! Any further related to these or other Beat World

goingson contact me at: Ron Whitehead, White Fields Press, 1387 Lexington

Road, Louisville, Kentucky 40206, phone 502-568-4956 or RWhiteBone@aol.com

Later, Ron 5/21/96 9:20AM

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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 11:37:27 EDT

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From: mARK hEMENWAY <mhemenway@S1.DRC.COM>

Subject: Kerouac Festival

The 9th Annual Lowell Celebrates Kerouac Festival will be 3-6 October this

year. Send me your snail mail address to get on the mailing list. Wrtie me

at Lowell Celebrates Kerouac!, Box 1111, Lowell, MA 01853 or call me at

508-458-1721. Yes, Brina Foye is still active and very much a part of the

organization.

Mark Hemenway

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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 14:57:17 EDT

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From: Blaine Allan <ALLANB@QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA>

Subject: Re: Kerouac Festival

In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 21 May 1996 11:37:27 EDT from

<mhemenway@S1.DRC.COM>

On Tue, 21 May 1996 11:37:27 EDT mARK hEMENWAY said:

>The 9th Annual Lowell Celebrates Kerouac Festival will be 3-6 October this

>year. Send me your snail mail address to get on the mailing list. Wrtie me

>at Lowell Celebrates Kerouac!, Box 1111, Lowell, MA 01853 or call me at

>508-458-1721. Yes, Brina Foye is still active and very much a part of the

>organization.

I'm not sure if I'm already on your mailing list:

Blaine Allan

Film Studies

Queen's University

Kingston, Ontario

Canada K7L 3N6

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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 14:58:28 EDT

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From: Blaine Allan <ALLANB@QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA>

Subject: Re: Kerouac Festival

In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 21 May 1996 11:37:27 EDT from

<mhemenway@S1.DRC.COM>

Damn. Hit that "send" key just a little too quickly. Sorry, folks.

Blaine.

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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 15:13:43 -0400

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From: Neil Hennessy <nhenness@UWATERLOO.CA>

Subject: Re: The Ticket That Exploded

> Yes, I agree that that Burroughs site is one of the best I've seen -

> particularly those essays on Burroughs by J. Skerl - her insights and

> analysis

> of Naked Lunch was excellent!

The essays (at least the ones I've seen) are all excerpted from her book

_William S. Burroughs_. Here is the complete biblio info:

Skerl, Jenny. _William S. Burroughs_ G.K. Hall & Company: Boston, 1985.

Well worth reading. Of particular interest to the biographical\fictional

debates that occasionally rage on the list is her section on the role of

the "Burroughs myth" in his fiction. Her book sticks to major works that

are widely available and acts as an easy intro to Burroughs's oeuvre and

popular criticism of his work.

Cheers,

Neil

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From: Tom Kackley <104203.1770@COMPUSERVE.COM>

Subject: cancel

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Please remove me from the mailing list. Thanks.

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From: Neil Hennessy <nhenness@UWATERLOO.CA>

Subject: Re: WSB, Hippos

On Fri, 17 May 1996 20:54:29 -0400 William Miller <KenWNC@aol.com> wrote:

> Neil (or anyone) do you know if anyone has ever seen a part or whole copy of

> the manuscript for _And the Hippos were Boiled in their Tanks_ ?

This question was bandied about the list a couple of months ago and I

think the answer was that someone left it in a cab somewhere and it was

lost forever. Everyone expressed their heartfelt desire that it be found

and published, but no-one had heard of any extant MS :-(

> BTW I still have not found a copy of _You Can't Win_, by Jack Black, despite

> having done interlibrary loan requests. And working in a used bookstore. I

> refuse to pay the US$20 for a new copy from some publisher in Hawaii. Anyone

> with any info on Black's book (availability, price) please e-mail me directly

> or post to the list.

Anyone who answers this please post to the list. And if you (William

Miller) could be so kind as to post the info about the Hawaii publisher

I'd appreciate it. I've always wanted to get a copy of this work that had

such a far-reaching influence on Burroughs. It would be interesting to

see the original Salt Chunk Mary.

Cheers,

Neil

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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 17:09:41 -0400

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From: Neil Hennessy <nhenness@UWATERLOO.CA>

Subject: Re: b. gysins dreammachine & k. cobains suicide

> in the fabulous booklet of the recently released cd "10 % under

> burroughs" featuring burroughs gysin huncke and many less known

> characters, there's a note saying that there could be some

> connections between nirvana's kurt cobain's suicide and brion gysin's

> dreammachine. what are these connections ?

That Cobain used the dreammachine to resurrect himself and is now living

with Elvis flipping burgers at a McDonald's in Tucson. I haven't had a

chance to hear the 10% cd yet, but I hope that is the only mention of

Kurt Cobain. His work with Burroughs was without a doubt the worst music

accompanying a Burroughs text I've ever heard. I wonder if Burroughs was in

the studio when Cobain did it? I can just hear him after Cobain finishes

his little tirade, "That's very nice son." My understanding is that the

reading was from the hours upon hours of material from which _Spare Ass

Annie_ and _Dead City Radio_ were born.

I can't believe someone is actually trying to connect the dream machine

to Cobain's suicide. What next?

Cheers,

Neil

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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 18:01:57 -0400

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From: Ron Whitehead <RWhiteBone@AOL.COM>

Subject: Hemenway & Kerouac

Have recvd several inquiries in last two weeks bout Lowell Celebrates

Kerouac! Festival with some folks wondering about changes since Mark Hemenway

replaced Brian Foye as Director. Mark is his own person as is Brian. Both

have done and are doing impeccable work with the festival that should and

hopefully will be pronounced THE ANNUAL INTERNATIONAL KEROUAC FESTIVAL. It

continues to grow by leaps & bounds but has also retained the quality &

hometown friendliness that has been its trademark from the beginning. After

my first visit years ago I was hooked & still am. There's nothing like

walking the streets Jack walked, drinking in the bars, reading in the cafes,

standing leaning over the railing mesmerized by the Merrimac, sitting

silently by his grave & feeling his presence moving gently in the breeze. I

support Mark & Brian in all they've done are doing & will do & by god after

all that I'm out the door to drink a toast to both of them to Jack Kerouac &

to all of you. Ron Whitehead

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From: Stephen Armstrong <Steph17895@AOL.COM>

Subject: Beat Sources

A week or ten days ago someone posted a WONDERFUL list of names, addresses,

etc. of individuals and bookstores that are sources of Beat literature. My

e-mail got messed up; would someone be kind enough to post this again?

Thanks!

Steve Armstrong

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From: Phil Chaput <Philzi@TIAC.NET>

Subject: Re: Beat Sources

At 09:55 PM 5/21/96 -0400, you wrote:

>A week or ten days ago someone posted a WONDERFUL list of names, addresses,

>etc. of individuals and bookstores that are sources of Beat literature. My

>e-mail got messed up; would someone be kind enough to post this again?

> Thanks!

> Steve Armstrong

>It was so nice of Ron Whitehead to post this for us and here it is. If

anyone has any more to add please do, especially used and rare book

catalogs.

Phil

Hello Phil Chaput! Responding to your inquiry bout Steve Ronan's BEAT BOOKS &

other Beat Publications. Here are a few names & addresses for you & I thought

some others might desire: Stephen Ronan, Beat Books, P.O. Box 5813, Berkley,

CA 94705; Water Row Books, P.O. Box 438, Sudbury, MA 01776

(Waterrow@aol.com); Waiting for Godot, P.O. Box 331, Hadley, MA 01035 (FAX

413-586-1731); Hanuman Books, 222 West 23rd St., NY NY 10011-2301 (FAX

212-633-8655); Alpha Beat Press, 31 A. Waterloo St., New Hope, PA 18938

(215-862-0299); Gotham Book Mart & Gallery, 41 West 47th St., NY NY 10036

(212-719-4448); City Lights Books, 261 Columbus Ave, San Francisco, CA 94133

(415-362-1901); Audio Literature, P.O. Box 7123, Berkley, CA 94707

(415-878-1831); Rhino Records, 1720 Westwood Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90024

(310-474-8685); Viking Penguin, 375 Hudson St., NY NY 10014; Grove Atlantic,

841 Broadway, NY NY 10003; Thunder's Mouth Press, 93-99 Greene Street, NY NY

10012; Soft Skull Press, 50 East Third Street #5A, NY NY 10003

(212-533-6152); John LeBow Books, 117 Langford Road, Candia, NH 03034

(603-483-5595); Hozomeen Press, P.O. Box 174, Mystic, Connecticut 06355

(HozmnPress@aol.com); & White Fields Press, 1387 Lexington Road, Louisville,

Kentucky 40206, (502-568-4956 or RWhiteBone@aol.com).

There are plenty of others but this is a list of some of the main ones. If

you have any questions or want more info let me know. All the Best, Ron

Whitehead (RWhiteBone@aol.com) 5/10/96 12:24PM

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From: William Miller <KenWNC@AOL.COM>

Subject: You Can't Win

Folks,

As soon as I can, I will look in _Books In Print_ and find that information

about the Jack Black book.

I thought that I had it here at the house, but I don't.

All I seem to remember now is that it was $19.95 and from some publisher in

Hawaii.

I believe that the Hawaii folks were the only people that had it listed.

That could have been the 1995 BiP, I don't know if it was '95 or '96.

I'll report what I can get out of the most current volume.

I work at the library, but they never give us any money for nothin.

William

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From: William Miller <KenWNC@AOL.COM>

Subject: You Can't Win: Hawaii Address.

Hello folks.

To all interested parties, I found this information regarding a certain

volume which influenced, so say the sources, a young WSB2. From the

1995-1996 BiP.

Jack Black

_You Can't Win_

$US18.95

099204155

Omnium

P.O.Box 5020

Kukuihaele, Hawaii

96727

To the best of my knowledge, Amok Press formerly carried the book, but no

longer carries the book.

Word begets image and image *is* virus.

Yours in Bill.

William Miller

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From: Paul McDonald - Bon Air Branch <PAUL@LOUISVILLE.LIB.KY.US>

Subject: SHE

I saw Gregory Corso a couple of years ago and he read his poem "Marriage."

When he got to the part:

"...Like SHE in her lonely alien gaud..."

he said he was refering to a popular novel of that time entitled "SHE." Does

anyone have any idea who the author of that novel is or if it is still in

print?

Paul McDonald

Paul@louisville.lib.ky.us

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From: Michael Dean <mickdean@UVIC.CA>

Subject: Re: SHE

> "...Like SHE in her lonely alien gaud..."

>he said he was refering to a popular novel of that time entitled "SHE." Does

>anyone have any idea who the author of that novel is or if it is still in

>print?

"She" by Ryder Haggard, should still be in print, a ridiculous story.

Also made into a film, starring Ursula Andress.

Mickey Dean

mickdean@uvic.ca

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From: Joe Buschini <joeb@SMPLANET.COM>

Subject: Re: SHE

> "...Like SHE in her lonely alien gaud..."

>refering to a popular novel of that time entitled "SHE." Does

>anyone have any idea who the author of that novel is or if it is still in

>print?

"She" is an H. Rider Haggard adventure novel from the 1880s. I suspect that

Corso alludes to the B-movie version of the novel, which appeared in the

early 60s. I don't remember much of the plot, but it involved an empress

who remained alive for centuries awiting the reincarnation of her lover.

Joe

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From: BONNIE LEE HOWARD <HOWARDB@SONOMA.EDU>

Subject: Re: SHE

=I saw Gregory Corso a couple of years ago and he read his poem "Marriage."

=When he got to the part:

= "...Like SHE in her lonely alien gaud..."

=he said he was refering to a popular novel of that time entitled "SHE." Does

=anyone have any idea who the author of that novel is or if it is still in

=print?

=Paul McDonald

=Paul@louisville.lib.ky.us

>From HALLIWELL'S FILMGOERS COMPANION:

She.

"Seven silent versions were made of Rider Haggard's adventure fantasy

about a lost tribe, an ageless queen, and a flame of eternal life in

Darkest Africa. Only the last remains, made in London and Berlin by

G.B. Samuelson, with Betty Blythe and Carlyle Blackwell. In 1934 in

Hollywood, Merian Cooper and Ernest Schoedsack remade the story in a

North Pole setting, with Helen Gahagan and Randolph Scott. In 1965

came a lifeless Hammer version directed by Robert Day, with Ursula

Andress and John Ricardson; this was followed in 1968 by a sequel,

THE VENGEANCE OF SHE, which was more than slightly potty."

Hope this helps, still have no idea if it's in print or not, though.

Bonnie

howardb@sonoma.edu

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From: Levi Asher <brooklyn@NETCOM.COM>

Subject: request

I got this request and don't know the answer. The person who

wrote it seems pretty urgent -- can anyone help?

> From dawn@ibhere.demon.co.uk Thu May 23 10:46:53 1996

> Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 06:26:29 -0700

> From: Dawn Ullman <dawn@ibhere.demon.co.uk>

> To: brooklyn@netcom.com

> Subject: william s burroughs

> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, can you possibly help me (i kinda know you will if

> you can, just been reading about the kinda guy you are on you web page.)

> here's the story:

> not so long ago m.t.v.'s chillout zone showed a video of william

> burroughs THANKS GIVING PRAYER not the release version on the l.p but a

> kinda mixed version with an upbeat tune and a female vocalist, i have

> tried desperately to track this down to no avail my last resort may lie

> with you (hope this put pressure on you ;-) ). i would like to know what

> it is or anything about it really, please help one desperate lady (i like

> to think of myself as that ) i will be iternally grateful for this can

> you email me any response even if it is glim.

> many many many thanks

>--

>bye

>dawnieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Levi Asher = brooklyn@netcom.com

Literary Kicks: http://www.charm.net/~brooklyn/

(the beat literature web site)

Queensboro Ballads: http://www.levity.com/brooklyn/

(my fantasy folk-rock album)

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Let's head back to Tennessee, Jed

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From: Ron Whitehead <RWhiteBone@AOL.COM>

Subject: SHE

Hello! In response to Paul McDonald's question bout Corso's SHE reference.

Check out H. Rider Haggard's SHE. Haggard wrote many books. Lived 1856-1925.

couple movies based on or born out of book including recent turd KING

SOLOMON's MINES. also check Queen of Sheba, Solomon, etc. and if interested

also check out A STRANGE STORY: An Alchemical Novel by Edward Bulwer Lytton.

Later, Ron Whitehead 5/23/96 3:50PM

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From: Jon Schwartz <JBS@UWYO.EDU>

Subject: Re: SHE

And perhaps a sideways allusion(without meaning it) to Ferlinghetti's novel,

HER...

Jon Schwartz

jbs@uwyo.edu

>> "...Like SHE in her lonely alien gaud..."

>>he said he was refering to a popular novel of that time entitled "SHE."

Does

>>anyone have any idea who the author of that novel is or if it is still in

>>print?

>"She" by Ryder Haggard, should still be in print, a ridiculous story.

>Also made into a film, starring Ursula Andress.

>Mickey Dean

>mickdean@uvic.ca

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Subject: SHE HER Ferlinghetti Burroughs & Chicago Review

"In the Deconstructing faux corridors of Academia, with faint sound of

hysterical laughter in the distance, The Dead somberly splash in their

shallow sewers devouring and regurgitating themselves" (The Bone Man).

A comparison of SHE (1887) by Haggard to HER (1961) by Ferlinghetti is like

comparing TOM SAWYER to ULYSSES. Burroughs NAKED LUNCH is the "pre-eminent

achievement in postwar American fiction" (see Geoff Ward's "Burroughs: a

Literary Outlaw?" in THE CAMBRIDGE QUARTERLY vol 22 #4 1993), Kerouac's prose

& poetry ranks with the smallest handful of the best, Ginsberg's HOWL stands

side by side with Munch's THE SCREAM (although 1890s) as the poem painting

best representing humankind's 20th Century torment (yes a case can be made

for Eliot's THE WASTE LAND for holding that position for 1st half-century),

Ferlinghetti's

A CONEY ISLAND OF THE MIND has sold more copies internationally than any book

of poems by any living poet. The Beat Generation is the most important group

of writers in the history of America and in time will be compared to the

British Romantics in level of importance despite all the eye rolling that

continues to go on in that bastion of conservatism called Academia. But The

Beats (& please include San Francisco Renaissance. if you want to go further

& include Black Mountain & New York School let's discuss. of course I'd love

to discuss any of this with any of YOu) are much more important than the

British Romantics (maybe timing) because their impact reaches beyond

literature (the arts) into culture much further than even Blake ever hoped

for.

Anyway back to Haggard & Ferlinghetti. Sir Henry Rider Haggard (1856-1925)

was one of the most successful writers of popular fiction in late 19th

Century England. He wrote 58 volumes fiction plus 7 other books. SHE is the

story of Ayesha, a white goddess of Africa who is 2,000 years old but still

appears young & beautiful. Lawrence Ferlinghetti

(1919 - ), at the age of 77, in Italy at the moment with exhibition opening

of his art at main museum in Rome, is underappreciated warrior member of

tribe called The Beats.

HER, called "a masterpiece of the young American novel" (Pierre Lepape), pays

homage to James Joyce (originator of Burroughs' survival standard "silence,

exile and cunning") and Surrealism, has been compared to French new novel

anti-novel by Robbe-Grillet & Michel Butor, but as always with Ferlinghetti

it speaks with his own incomparable original voice. The anti-hero quest

narrative is labyrinth-dream of highest surreal order.

But now I want to bring up another point which is that Lawrence Ferlinghetti

is a Misunderstood American Giant. How? Why?

Today "Specialization" is sold on every corner, fed in every home,

brainwashed in to every student. We are told that the only way to succeed,

here at the end of the 20th Century, and certainly tomorrow in the 21st

Century, is to put all our time, energy, learning, and focus into one are,

one field, one specialty (math, science, computer technology, business). If

we don't we will fail. We are subtly and forcefully, implicitly and

explicitly, encouraged to deny the rest of who we are, our total self,

selves, our holistic being. The Postmodern brave new world seems to reside

inside the computer The Web with only faint peripheral recognition of the

person, the individual (& by extension the real global community), the real

human being operating the machine. The idea of and belief in specialization

as the only path, only possibility, has sped up the fragmentation, the

alienation which began to grow rapidly within the individual, radically

reshaping culture, a century ago with the birth of those Machiavellian

revolutions in technology, industry, and war. And with the growing fracturing

fragmentation and alienation come the path - anger, fear, anxiety, angst,

ennui, nihilism, depression, despair - that, for the person of action, leads

to suicide. Unless, through our paradoxical leap of faith we engage ourselves

in the belief, which can become a life mission, that, regardless of the

consequences, we can, through our engagement, our actions, our loving life

work, make the world a better, safer, friendlier place in which to live.

Sound naive? Are we too desensitized to the violence, to the fact that in

this Century alone we have murdered over 100 million people in one war after

another, to even think it worthwhile to consider the possibility of a less

violent world? Are we too small, too insignificant to make any kind of

difference? The power-mongers have control. What difference can one measly

little individual life possibly make, possibly matter?

Today the sadly mislabeled Generation X is swollen with thousands of young

people yearning to express the creative energy buried in their hearts,

seeping from their lips, eyes, ears, noses, fingers etc. They ache to change

to heal the world. Is it still possible? Is it too late? Is there anyone (a

group?) left to show the way? To set an example? To be a guide? A mentor?

James Joyce, King of Modernism, said the idea of the hero was nothing but a

damn lie that the primary motivating forces are passion and compassion. As

late as 1984 people were laughing at George Orwell. today as we finally move

full force into an Orwellian culture of simulation life on the screen

landscape can we remember passion and compassion or has the Postmodern ironic

satyric deathinlifegame laugh killed both sperm and egg? Is there anywhere

worth going from here?

In 1996, at the age of 77, Lawrence Ferlinghetti is as active as he was forty

years ago when he became engaged as a poet, writer, editor, publisher,

artist, and operator of the bookstore and press that quickly became, and

still is, the Mecca of small, independent, individually owned and operated

bookstores and presses and their associated writers and readers. In a world,

in an age where multi-national corporations and militaries are controlling

more and more of what the masses think, say, and do City Lights has become so

significant, a bright and shining star in an ever darkening sky.

I've heard (and read) the comment made about Lawrence Ferlinghetti that he's

a businessman. If Lawrence Ferlinghetti is a businessman then so was James

Joyce. And if James Joyce was a writer then so is Lawrence Ferlinghetti.

Certain people have said they respect Lawrence Ferlinghetti for what he's

done as a publisher but have doubts about his writing. I say those people

have not read, have not studied deeply Lawrence Ferlinghetti' poetry and

prose. Early critics of James Joyce made statements, placed labels, that

reveal now that they didn't examine Joyce's work carefully, or couldn't

understand his work and therefore denigrated the work and the person (yes you

can certainly place Burroughs, Kerouac, & Ginsberg here too). Despite the

access of a broader audience than most of the Beats and San Francisco

Renaissance writers, Lawrence Ferlinghetti's poetry and prose has a depth, a

deep resonance in emotional and literary allusion and connection to the

family of modern (as well as postmodern & beyond) writers, artists, and

musicians that is equal to any of the writers he is so often compared to or

even worse whose group he is left out of when comparisons are made

i.e. Ginsberg, Burroughs, Corso, Kerouac. There are several reasons for this

and I'll only touch on a couple here: Lawrence Ferlinghetti does not, neither

in live performance, nor on the page, slap you in the face, hit you over the

head, or yell in your ear. And there's nothing wrong with any of the above

it's just that Ferlinghetti approaches the listener, the reader differently

(like Burroughs, Ginsberg, Corso: try & imagine a similar voice). He

emphatically whispers, gently sings, his poems, his prose, in such a subtle,

yet forceful, manner that he mesmerizes, hypnotizes and takes us to a land, a

place, where we recognize that there are alternative realities, there is the

probability, through inner and outer action, of a number (infinite?) of other

possible experiences, realities, worlds we can choose for our selves, our

lives. Even the blank spaces between his words are filled with the audible

sound of the universe, the OM which presents us with the recognition that we

don't have to only specialize to succeed. And that same sound implores us to

question: whose vision of success are we buying, accepting anyway? The ones

we're sold by coporations and militaries or are we looking within to discover

our own? Ferlinghetti's work leads us to the path of realization that we

don't ever have to accept what is expected of us, what we're told to do and

to be. Question everything before we accept anything.

Lawrence Ferlinghetti has not been considered as he should be, as his life

and work calls out, pleads, compels us to consider, to examine, to

experience, to attempt to understand. Because of his association with The

Beats, The San Francisco Renaissance, The Outsiders of Academia he has not

been accepted into the academy's Canon. Because of his so-called Business

Association through City Lights he has not been accepted into the inner Beat

Canon. Lawrence Ferlinghetti has influenced and continues to influence our

collective culture in more individually human ways as only a small handful of

poets, writers, artists, and musicians have been able to manage in the past

hundred years. The time has come to open our doors, let down our walls and

let in the light, give recognition to this Misunderstood American Giant,

Lawrence Ferlinghetti.

Ron Whitehead 5/23/96 11:14PM

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From: Michael Thorn <mthorn@FASTNET.CO.UK>

Subject: Re: SHE HER Ferlinghetti Burroughs & Chicago Review

A CONEY ISLAND OF THE MIND has sold more copies internationally than any book

of poems by any living poet.

I'm as willing as the next person to give Ferlinghetti

his due

but this claim sounds overstated...

I'd be interested to know the sales figures

on which it's based

Michael Thorn

mthorn@fastnet.co.uk

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From: Ron Whitehead <RWhiteBone@AOL.COM>

Subject: Re: SHE HER Ferlinghetti Burroughs & Chicago Review

Hello Michael! Yer absolutely right. it is overstated. by any living American

poet is correct. thank you for correcting me. as to verifying figures check

any number of sources. All the Best, Ron Whitehead 5/24/96 6:57PM

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From: Ron Whitehead <RWhiteBone@AOL.COM>

Subject: A CONEY ISLAND OF THE NUMBERS

Hello again! Right after I sent Ferlinghetti message last night I copied &

read & saw immediately that I had left out American & so implication was

world sales. Thanks again to Michael for correcting me. I'll be kick me in

the ass and thump my ears. See ya'll.

Ron "Rollo" Whitehead 5/24/96 7:03PM

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From: Phil Chaput <Philzi@TIAC.NET>

Subject: Re: A CONEY ISLAND OF THE NUMBERS

At 07:04 PM 5/24/96 -0400, you wrote:

>Hello again! Right after I sent Ferlinghetti message last night I copied &

>read & saw immediately that I had left out American & so implication was