beat list 1997

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 23:53:18 +0200

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From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

Subject: Re: On the Road - Uncut

not too lawsuit 'bout jk take a break smell the java...

*the beet*

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 23:54:07 +0200

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From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

Subject: Re: On the Road - Uncut

not a lawsuit jk smell the coffe & relax

*the beet from venice,italy*

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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 00:06:01 +0200

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From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

Subject: Re: On the Road - UnCut

jk is not censored as ag

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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 00:07:05 +0200

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From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

Subject: Re: Jake Barnes is beat (was "More on dope")

the beat is a beet

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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 00:15:05 +0200

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From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

Subject: Your current flood

James:

>Return-Path: <stauffer@pacbell.net>

>Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 15:07:08 -0700

>From: James Stauffer <stauffer@pacbell.net>

>Reply-To: stauffer@pacbell.net

>To: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@gpnet.it>

>Subject: Your current flood

>Rinaldo.

>I enjoy your posts. They are funny.

>However. The Beat-L only acceptsl 50 messages a day. Let someone else

>talk. I'm sick of the Kerouac estate thing too, but it is important to

>other people. 40 or so posts a day should be plenty. Go smoke a

>joint. Take a break. Look at the wonderful tits on the girl on the

>t-shirt page. Everytime I turn on the computer there are another 15

>messages from you.

>James

i smell java but i can't stop my mouse sorry

* the beeet *

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 17:17:19 -0500

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From: Bob Fox <bfox@SIU.EDU>

Subject: More than enough

How many Rinaldo Rasas does it take to dangle on the end of a

thread? Has he cloned himself?

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 18:02:54 -0500

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From: talk dirty to me <mutton@JANE.PENN.COM>

Subject: Re: On the Road - UnCut

rinaldo

my god go outside and breath some fresh air

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: From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

: To: Multiple recipients of list BEAT-L <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

: Subject: Re: On the Road - UnCut

: Date: Sunday, May 04, 1997 5:06 PM

: jk is not censored as ag

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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 00:30:12 +0200

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From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

Subject: Re: On the Road - UnCut

jk was not censored

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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 00:30:44 +0200

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From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

Subject: Re: More on dope

>Isn't it pretty to think so!

u are joking?

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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 00:32:20 +0200

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From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

Subject: Re: Attila's questions con'd -- Kerouac Estate Fight

gottcha!! with this stuff of jk estate please, the image

of jk is in the sky,

*the beet*

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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 00:33:14 +0200

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From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

Subject: Re: On the Road - UnCut

jk was a mith wat's up to censored Virgilius?

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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 00:34:31 +0200

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From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

Subject: Re: On The Road - UnCut

the server is the minus what are u doing?

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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 00:36:09 +0200

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From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

Subject: Re: On The Road - UnCut

u lost in the fog the mind why jk is cutted

ag more cutted & considered a clown...

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 17:33:51 -0500

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From: RACE --- <race@MIDUSA.NET>

Subject: Re: On the Road - UnCut

Rinaldo Rasa wrote:

> jk was not censored

Rinaldo and i have been writing back and forth about this and many other

beautiful subjects for about an hour now.

i think that Rinaldo may be correct in that "censorship" may not be the

proper word to use for whatever has occurred with regards to the letters

now. i recognize that there are many different meanings, connotations

and what-not for anything such as "censorship", but i think that perhaps

there is a better word for whatever it is that people are mentioning

concerning JK's writings. there is at least some level of difference in

the kinds of restrictions involved in the cases of AG and JK's writings.

i have racked my poor Kansas brain and attempted to consult the great

vortex for a better word to describe the current questions relating to

JK's writings than censorship. the vortex was closed unfortunately --

for repairs I suppose -- and i haven't come up with the proper word yet,

but i do believe that there is one out there somewhere that better

describes the subject and yet distinguishes from the censorship of

Ginsberg as Rinaldo has expressed.

sincerely,

david rhaesa

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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 00:39:58 +0200

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From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

Subject: Re: Anstee, Nicosia, & Kerouac Estate Fight

oh, an attorney is enough

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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 00:43:18 +0200

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From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

Subject: Re: Why is there no hippie literature

no more 50 messages?

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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 00:44:45 +0200

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From: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

Subject: apologies

as gif image now i'm considering to limit my writing...

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 19:11:36 -0400

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From: Jerry Cimino <Bigsurs4me@AOL.COM>

Subject: Rinaldo!

Rinaldo!!!

What the heck you been smokin' got you so fired up?

25 e-mails all from Rinaldo in one day saying "stop the lawsuits, make love

not war" etc?

Rinaldo, there's been a lawsuit, a couple really, here in the US that's

gotten a lot of attention in the press and now is being

discussed/argued/examined on the Beat-L. Don't expect it to go away. Delete

the posts, read them to learn what you can, comment if it makes sense, but

Jeez-Louise (or Jean Louis) stop the one-liners!

Please!

Jerry Cimino

Fog City

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 19:15:57 -0400

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From: Antoine Maloney <stratis@ODYSSEE.NET>

Subject: Your explosion of e-mail!

Comments: cc: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@GPNET.IT>

rinaldo,

What's with this explosion of e-mail? I'm trying to figure out if

you're just annoyed about all the talk about the estate questions, or if

you've found a neat program that allows you to pump out tons of one-line

replies to posts from the Beat list. Give us a little break and slow down

the pace.

We need more poetry and commentary and less heat!

Is Sant Erasmos Island where you live in Venice?

Thanks Antoine

Voice contact at (514) 933-4956 in Montreal

"An anarchist is someone who doesn't need a cop to tell him what to do!"

-- Norman Navrotsky and Utah Phillips

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From: Pamela Beach Plymell <CVEditions@AOL.COM>

Subject: Dr. Sax vs. Last of the Moccasins

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I have attached a response to Ron Anstee's post to me: I figured ANYONE who

was gonna casually slip in a claim to have written a better book than DOCTOR

SAX was just plain asking for it! I liked your elegant reply, mind you, about

learning self-promotion from the best -- as I told JHW a while back, I've

grown to enjoy your clear-eyed, cut-through-the surface-noise, and

watch-the-details postings.

Yes, I have LAST OF THE MOCCASINS here, red cover, $3 on the back...I haven't

read LAST since about 1975. (SAX I re-read pretty regularly.) So let me go

read it again. If we're to lock horns, which I don't think is necessary, but

maybe they're expecting it, YOU have to go re-read DOCTOR SAX, fair?

Charles Plymell

PS: If the download doesn't work, please let us know.

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DR. SAX vs LAST OF THE MOCCASINS

=0D

The Kerouac estate battle is of interest to me, and I've also been intere=

sted in Kerouac

recently. I haven't wanted to use the Beat-L so that there was plenty of =

time for the

important, but typical battle of wills. Soon it will play out, and for pu=

rely selfish reasons,

I can't wait to see who will emerge as the Johnsons, or who will emerge a=

s the Shits. (To

apply the Burroughs aphorism gained from his attentive ear for truths spo=

ken by a black

drag queen long ago.)

=0D

A while back, Ron Anstee challenged me to a friendly bout to defend my cl=

aim (actually

a claim from a review written by Hugh Fox.) I'm ready to step in the ring=

now. (Funny

how those sports metaphors are useful.) He sent me an interesting post su=

mmarizing his

feelings about Kerouac's work and said he would read my City Lights editi=

on of Last of

the Moccasins, if I'd read Dr. Sax. With the compliments of Jeff, I've be=

en sent D.S. and

have been reading it and thinking about it with a great deal of pleasure.=

=0D

The C.L. edition was written in one swoop and sent to City Lights. Thoug=

h I expected

editorial work, it was published as was, with many errors. The book then =

was published

by Europa Verlag in Austria and was reprinted in this country by Mother R=

oad. One

review from Mitteilungsblatt Bibliotheken Germany (equivalent of Library =

Journal) said

"Plymell is a lineal successor to Burroughs, Kerouac and Ginsberg and he =

proffers that

the literature of the Beat Generation hasn't lost anything of its freshne=

ss and unfailing

honesty to talk about personal experience and self assessment." And from =

England,

Andrew Darlington wrote in Ludd's Mill that LOM..."was circulating among =

the

Yorkshire Poets, a single copy changing hands, working its way through th=

e City Lights

sub culture and becoming the centre of a cult in its own right." =

=0D

The only schooling I had in Kerouac was what Neal read me about himself, =

mainly in

OTR and Allen reading Mexico City Blues to me at Gough St. S. F. 1963. Th=

ough we

never discussed much poetry, this was one time a literary learning experi=

ence was real,

a changing of the guard, so to speak.

=0D

I will have to quote some reviews that establish and compare my writing t=

o Kerouac

because many people are unfamiliar with my work which have been mostly se=

minal for

one reason for another. Also I'm in a peculiar position of defending my r=

eviewers. For

that reason, I would like to quote some reviewers who talk about the styl=

es and make

comparisons in the first place. Rod will say that is self advertising, I'=

ll quote Magritte:

Ceci n'est pas une pipe. I just hope when the bout is over Rod won't do t=

he "I knew Jack

K., and I worked with Jack K., and you're no J.K. routine." I am clearly =

the underdog

here. This was my first and only published prose book, etc. and I plan to=

say where I felt

on the mat and where K gave it everything he had: his own word hoard barr=

age, and

great literary style hoards. Remember, I was up against a seasoned pro wi=

th a few books

under his belt. And I may not even win this match. And my literary estate=

is valued at

only $91. So don't bet too much. It has been an inspiring lesson. Some on=

the list were

asking about hippy literature. My book is not about hippies though it inc=

luded some

hippy scenes. Even the connotation of the word has rendered a definition =

synonymous

with "Trend". I was at least in the "hispter" era too.

=0D

Literature didn't begin and end with the Beat Generation. Some of you kn=

ow Charles

Potts of Tsunami, Inc. who publishes The Temple. In the last issue there =

was a poem by

Michael Finely, which, in my opinion would put much of the poetry of the =

beat

generation to shame. Anyway, Potts wrote in a review about LOM when it fi=

rst came out

that: "Moccasins for short is better written than all of Kerouac except f=

or Desolation

Angels." Boy, that's enough to make your blood boil! I have other quotes =

from reviews

about LOM that put me in the beat camp.

=0D

There are only about three sections of Dr. Sax that I found uneven. I c=

hecked out the

K Portable Reader from the library. When I read the selections from Dr. S=

ax in that, I

thought this was going to be a cakewalk. I felt I had it all over him. Th=

en Jeff's copy

arrived with some funny notations from him. I'm glad I didn't have to jud=

ge the book by

the excerpts in K Portable Reader. The first chapters gave me a the feeli=

ng that K was

sparring, not doing much; there was a lot of play on language, some good =

nonsense

writing. So I had a good childhood memory ear too. He was setting a tone =

of Burlesque,

which would gradually evolve to metaphysical wit, the allegory. =

=0D

He did have a few remarkable lines, which if pastiched, could easily be a=

s great

symbolism/surrealism as Rimbaud/H. Crane. Yet I felt he overreached with =

some of the

word/phrase inventions. He was not effective: sometimes, I thought, class=

ic bathos.

=0D

I thought I could take this sucker now! But a good local color story seem=

ed to be

developing by Chapter 25 that I felt kinship with. I thought I was proven=

even with him.

Though I quite frankly didn't understand the frame movie scenes near the =

beginning of

the book, the frame story was very effective and very sophisticated, sign=

ified by K's own

linguistic loop disclaimer: "Dr. Sax was no sophisticated writer." Now K =

is flexing his

literary muscle. He had that round. By pg. 77 he was building on juvenile=

absurdity into

the honest youthful expression of reality and calling it by name. I can f=

eel my youth of

the 50's ending in his Shakespearean: "How rotten the walls of life do ge=

t how collapsed

the tendon beam..."

=0D

I'll digress here to say that his sense of regionalism is very predominan=

t. His description

of New England weather/mood change was brilliant. I identified with this=

=2E In my book,

there is regionalism where the weather plays a part "anthropomorphically =

expanding a

place into the dimensions of a mythical super-person".

=0D

He began to set a pace, and after "feeling out his approach" he was in th=

e full swing of

writing by the time he went past Jeff's father's business, Alexander's (p=

g. 85). After that

there were too many details. the writing became almost pedestrian. I out=

guessed, even

if it was speculative. Charles Dawe in the San Francisco Fault wrote "But=

Plymell writes

a more speculative--or 'memoir' if you like---than On The Road. " =

=0D

The dialogue picks up a little by pg. 193 and then K starts throwing eve=

rything he's got

into great bold abstract expressionist strokes. He was a hipster, not a h=

ippie. I've never

seen the slang term "hincty" in print, though it was used in the subcultu=

re of the 50's. He

reaches into his literary background and came up with name/context of all=

of classic

literature. His Baroque Benzedrine monsters were bopping in the linguisti=

c sub lingo of

the 50's psycho-imagistic creations like the simile "...head down, like a=

hip tap dancer

pulling his bops away,..."

=0D

I began to realize what I was up against. From then on he pulled out all =

stops:

Surrealism, Symbolism, Mysticism, Goethe, Faust, Kafka, you name it; Best=

iary,

Allegory, Naturalism; Kerouac swung away. In conclusion, the quote from H=

ugh Fox,

writing in MOTA started this whole thing. "Moccasins becomes a case-book/=

textbook,

model of contemporary style that Americanizes Joyce, Genet, Sarraute, Rob=

be-Grillet and

even stylistically 'explicates' the whole dizzying language-stance of Nak=

ed Lunch

Burroughs. The only 'beat' novels that even approach the stylistic statu=

re of The Last of

the Moccasins are, in fact, Naked Lunch and (to a much lesser degree) Ker=

ouac's Doctor

Sax. You find a little bit of this in Kerouac, Miller, Burroughs, but ne=

ver anywhere any

better--the use of bringing the whole English word-hoard to bear in one m=

ultiple-associated semantic barrage, anthropomorphically expanding a plac=

e into the dimensions

of mystical super-person." =

=0D

I think that is an excellent description of Dr. Sax too, but I thank you =

Hugh for putting

me in the Ring and hope that I can live up to your laudations. This was a=

very enjoyable

read for me. Traditionally, the east has enjoyed more literary activity .=

My book is west

of the Mississippi. It is written in new journalism; it is autobiographic=

al. I'm surprised

by all the good reviews of it. Just as someone recently remarked that it'=

s a kind of honor

to not have books available. It seems my books are reviewed as much as re=

ad. I'm glad

to have the opportunity to read and "review" Dr. Sax, and my comments are=

extemporaneous as a the keyboard. This is for the practice of writing; it=

hasn't nested;

It is not formal, rather conversational.

=0D

I am totally comfortable and delighted at what Colin Cooper said in the l=

atest Beat

Scene about the new edition: "At last this Beat gem is back in print. Ori=

ginally released

by City Lights Press in San Francisco, this underground American classic =

has languished

in unwarranted obscurity....Here are the individuals of the so called Bea=

t Generation and

many more (Jack Black. Thomas Kromer) decode it all."

=0D

I am pleased with all the reviews. My only claim was to be a "Hobohemian"=

writer, a

word that I invented. Dr. Sax is a great book by a great writer.

Charles Plymell=

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 19:21:26 -0500

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From: RACE --- <race@MIDUSA.NET>

Subject: Re: Dr. Sax vs. Last of the Moccasins

My only claim was to be a "Hobohemian" writer, a

> word that I invented. Dr. Sax is a great book by a great writer.

> Charles Plymell

this was truly an enjoyable read...looking forward to the rest of the

Bout and to future ones like:

In the blue corner .... Dr. Sax AND

in the green corner .... Dr. Benway ......

dbr

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From: James Stauffer <stauffer@PACBELL.NET>

Subject: Re: Dr. Sax vs. Last of the Moccasins

Charles,

Very nice first round. Your jab is working, you're using the ring

well. Take plenty of fluids and keep it up. And remember about not

hooking with a hooker, or whatever. Makes me want to run straight to

the bookstore (better than going stoned to the bookstore cuz I never get

out) and grab both books. That's the best part.

James Stauffer

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From: Alex Howard <kh14586@ACS.APPSTATE.EDU>

Subject: Re: apologies

In-Reply-To: <m0wOA1N-000rMiC@gpnet.it>

On Mon, 5 May 1997, Rinaldo Rasa wrote:

What brand of wine are you drinkin'? Would like to try it myself...

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Alex Howard (704)266-7067 Appalachian State University

kh14586@acs.appstate.edu P.O. Box 12149

http://www.acs.appstate.edu/~kh14586 Boone, NC 28608

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From: Bill Philibin <deadbeat@BUFFNET.NET>

Subject: Please STOP Rinaldo

Comments: cc: rinaldo@gpnet.it

If you had a lot to say, no problem. But these useless one liners are

really getting tiresom. Some people on the list have to pay for their

service providers by the minute. Reading 50 posts that make no sense is

just plain unfair.

I vote for a gag-order...

-Bill

[ deadbeat@buffnet.net - http://www.buffnet.net/~deadbeat ]

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the

subject."

-- Winston Churchill

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 22:45:47 -0400

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From: Antoine Maloney <stratis@ODYSSEE.NET>

Subject: What kind of wine....

Alex - If rinaldo replies privately will you please let me and the others

know...this could be a chance for a good little export business on the side

for rinaldo.

Antoine

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>On Mon, 5 May 1997, Rinaldo Rasa wrote:

>What brand of wine are you drinkin'? Would like to try it myself...

>------------------

>Alex Howard (704)266-7067 Appalachian State University

>kh14586@acs.appstate.edu P.O. Box 12149

>http://www.acs.appstate.edu/~kh14586 Boone, NC 28608

Voice contact at (514) 933-4956 in Montreal

"An anarchist is someone who doesn't need a cop to tell him what to do!"

-- Norman Navrotsky and Utah Phillips

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 22:54:37 -0400

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From: Ginny Browne <NICO88@AOL.COM>

Subject: Re: Your current flood

rinaldo..........sei pazzo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(y, io ti scrivo di Zanzotto y Fellini, my dad JUST started translating for

me, and i will get back to you, mi dispiace, io sono molto tardo)

arrivederla, ginevra (ginny)

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 23:13:49 -0400

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From: Pamela Beach Plymell <CVEditions@AOL.COM>

Subject: Re: Cornix?

Cornix. That sounds interesting. I'll try it. I'll have to get a larger

screen.

C. Plymell

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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 06:57:42 -0500

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From: RACE --- <race@MIDUSA.NET>

Subject: After the Flood - reflections on Venetian brother

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received this when i woke this morning. Venice and Salina are not in

the same time zones but definitely in the same Astral plane. hope all

the Beat-Lers are caught up and that there was no significant damage

from the flood from the Venetian computer. I was quite concerned at

first but as the backchannel continued (i checked nearly 2 hours of

exchange) i found that everything was alright and fine and probably a

minute misunderstanding compared to some that have been zooming across

the list in recent days.

david rhaesa

p.s. rasa and rhaesa are the same if the alphabet excludes "h's" and

"e's" so i've determined "scientifically" that rinaldo and i are distant

cousins..... :)

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Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 04:19:12 -0500

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To: Rinaldo Rasa <rinaldo@gpnet.it>

Subject: Re: Looking For Jack: The Literary Influences of Jack Kerouac

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Rinaldo Rasa wrote:

> david,

> in advance i thanx sincerely u & al the beats,

> u 'cuz of the spotaneous writing lastnight a la jack kerouac

> we celebrated a piece of lit, i presume...

> &thanx to the beats for the BIG patient carried

> for the email floooooooooood

> i send via snail mail a postcard for u

> good morn' & good week, & i hop're happy!

> ciao da Rinaldo.

> -------------------------------------------------------

> Rinaldo RASA, v.MORLAITER 2, 30173 VENICE-Mestre, ITALY

> voice: +39 (041) 5317058

> email: rasa@gpnet.it

> email: rinaldo@gpnet.it

> http://www.gpnet.it/rasa/home.htm

> -------------------------------------------------------

I enjoyed the typing races across the Atlantic ocean. I was concerned

about you primarily at first. Then i just enjoyed it more and more as

you began to tell me more and more things about the Centre of the

Universe and all that.

It certainly was spontaneous writing. I hope that the flood is easily

forgiven by everyone. I'm certain many were concerned.

I still find it mysterious that our names are similar Rasa-Rhaesa.

Your note on my computer when I woke up is certainly going to help me

with having a happy day. I'll look forward to the picture postcard.

Take Care Venetian friend,

david rhaesa

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